United Nations A Failed Organization

Nice reminder Jeff.

here is rule #5:

5- Copyrighted Material -All material posted from copyrighted material MUST contain a link to the original work. Proper format is to post the first few paragraphs and then link to the article for the rest. Please don't repost entire articles here.
Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 107 http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html
 
Originally posted by MtnBiker
Nice reminder Jeff.

here is rule #5:

5- Copyrighted Material -All material posted from copyrighted material MUST contain a link to the original work. Proper format is to post the first few paragraphs and then link to the article for the rest. Please don't repost entire articles here.
Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 107 http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html
My last take on the subject. The guy has been around here since November of '03. He knows the rules he is just being argumentative. His pannites are in a bunch because someone asked him for a source. He didn't want to reveal his source I am sure because of the obvious bias in it and he didn't want to hear any crap about it.
 
Originally posted by HGROKIT

My last take on the subject. The guy has been around here since November of '03. He knows the rules he is just being argumentative. His pannites (sic) are in a bunch because someone asked him for a source. He didn't want to reveal his source I am sure because of the obvious bias in it and he didn't want to hear any crap about it.

As I was making a political COMMENT about the UN, the following part of the Limitation on Exclusive rights is apparently not an infrigment of the copyright law. Although the rules of linking and copying the entire article by our mentor Jimmyc is violated. For this I apologize.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html

Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -

HGROKIT everyone has an agenda for their own opinions and points of view. You apparently find a BIAS problem with me being Jewish and international news site which gives a Jewish perspective. But there are many many other non-Jewish sites who also posted this same article in its entirety by the same author. What hidden agenda or bias have they?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13346

http://www.opinioneditorials.com/freedomwriters/neuwirth_20040517.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140901/posts

http://truthnews.com/world/2004050043.htm

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3622.shtml

http://www.fuckfrance.com/read.html?postid=671598&replies=0

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3537

And many more copies of the original speech made before the United Nations by the author Rachael Neuworth
 
Originally posted by ajwps
As I was making a political COMMENT about the UN, the following part of the Limitation on Exclusive rights is apparently not an infrigment of the copyright law. Although the rules of linking and copying the entire article by our mentor Jimmyc is violated. For this I apologize.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html



HGROKIT everyone has an agenda for their own opinions and points of view. You apparently find a BIAS problem with me being Jewish and international news site which gives a Jewish perspective. But there are many many other non-Jewish sites who also posted this same article in its entirety by the same author. What hidden agenda or bias have they?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13346

http://www.opinioneditorials.com/freedomwriters/neuwirth_20040517.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140901/posts

http://truthnews.com/world/2004050043.htm

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3622.shtml

http://www.fuckfrance.com/read.html?postid=671598&replies=0

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3537

And many more copies of the original speech made before the United Nations by the author Rachael Neuworth

AJ - to the contrary regarding you having a bias or an agenda that supports a Jewish postition. All I am insinuating is come right out with it. I gave you agreement about the UN - but that was not enough. You seem to want validation only for your point of view. My point ov view however does not need to match yours for us to have a common objective.

In my opinion, you weaken your position when you make it strictly from the Jewish persecution viewpoint. If your objective was simply to point out that the Jews are often treated unfailry by the UN in your opinion, then I guess you made that point. But you were making a claim that we should get out of the UN becuase it is a failed entity. The reason your position is weakened is because you argue from only one perspective. If you are to gain support for a "firing " of the UN, IMO you need to argue from a broader foundation.

In all honesty, as I mentioned already, most of your posts are on meaningful topics, but you always are coming from the same perspective. Some time it is obvious and some times it appears hidden. Personally, I prefer if someone has something on their mind they just come right on out and say it.

Israel has no greater ally than the US. I personally feel we gave given more than our fair share, but so be it.
 
Originally posted by HGROKIT



In my opinion, you weaken your position when you make it strictly from the Jewish persecution viewpoint. If your objective was simply to point out that the Jews are often treated unfailry by the UN in your opinion, then I guess you made that point. But you were making a claim that we should get out of the UN becuase it is a failed entity. The reason your position is weakened is because you argue from only one perspective. If you are to gain support for a "firing " of the UN, IMO you need to argue from a broader foundation.


You are certainly entitled to your opinion. IMHO the United Nations has made its own best case to be dissolved and not just from my perspective as a Jew. The UN over the past years has built a foundation built on deceit, outright theft, ignoring the plight of millions of fellow human beings in almost all third world countries and supporting the UN's majority third world Muslim nations. The UN is built on a three-leg foundation being proped up for what is considered status quo.

....In all honesty, as I mentioned already, most of your posts are on meaningful topics, but you always are coming from the same perspective. Some time it is obvious and some times it appears hidden. Personally, I prefer if someone has something on their mind they just come right on out and say it.

From my perspective, the way I approach topics can be either direct or indirect depending on how I feel that is best understood ffrom other's points of view. As an example, sometimes satire is better than just coming forward with obvious biases seen.

Israel has no greater ally than the US. I personally feel we gave given more than our fair share, but so be it.

That too is your opinion. Israel's loan guarantees from the US Congress has largely been repaid and with the technology developed in Israel has benefited the United States more than 10 fold in these loan/grants.

In December 2003, when I was last in Israel I was taken from city to city. All I saw were large buildings reading IBM, Dell and many US technology and research facilities now exiting there for years.

When I asked why these American technology and medical instituions were present in a land with so few people, I was told that this is where they are near research labs, universities and other private companies doing basic and advanced projects that is said to keep America strong and the only remaing superpower with weapons beyond any others in the world. With medical advancements that benefit millions of Americans increasing longevity and increased quality of existence.

These facts are not well known as the rest of the world also uses this advanced technology but cannot announce it for fear of upsetting the Muslim world.

Ameica gets nothing back for the billions given outright to Egypt and other third world countries. And so America has benefited with its relationship with America. So be it...
 
ajwps. would you quit being so SPECIAL and use the standard quoting markup techniques? Please be a doll and just do it, please. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
ajwps. would you quit being so SPECIAL and use the standard quoting markup techniques? Please be a doll and just do it, please. Thanks.

Sorry precious, I wan't aware that alternative quoting techniques bothered you.
 
Originally posted by ajwps
Originally posted by HGROKIT



In my opinion, you weaken your position when you make it strictly from the Jewish persecution viewpoint. If your objective was simply to point out that the Jews are often treated unfailry by the UN in your opinion, then I guess you made that point. But you were making a claim that we should get out of the UN becuase it is a failed entity. The reason your position is weakened is because you argue from only one perspective. If you are to gain support for a "firing " of the UN, IMO you need to argue from a broader foundation.


You are certainly entitled to your opinion. IMHO the United Nations has made its own best case to be dissolved and not just from my perspective as a Jew. The UN over the past years has built a foundation built on deceit, outright theft, ignoring the plight of millions of fellow human beings in almost all third world countries and supporting the UN's majority third world Muslim nations. The UN is built on a three-leg foundation being proped up for what is considered status quo.

....In all honesty, as I mentioned already, most of your posts are on meaningful topics, but you always are coming from the same perspective. Some time it is obvious and some times it appears hidden. Personally, I prefer if someone has something on their mind they just come right on out and say it.

From my perspective, the way I approach topics can be either direct or indirect depending on how I feel that is best understood ffrom other's points of view. As an example, sometimes satire is better than just coming forward with obvious biases seen.

Israel has no greater ally than the US. I personally feel we gave given more than our fair share, but so be it.

That too is your opinion. Israel's loan guarantees from the US Congress has largely been repaid and with the technology developed in Israel has benefited the United States more than 10 fold in these loan/grants.

In December 2003, when I was last in Israel I was taken from city to city. All I saw were large buildings reading IBM, Dell and many US technology and research facilities now exiting there for years.

When I asked why these American technology and medical instituions were present in a land with so few people, I was told that this is where they are near research labs, universities and other private companies doing basic and advanced projects that is said to keep America strong and the only remaing superpower with weapons beyond any others in the world. With medical advancements that benefit millions of Americans increasing longevity and increased quality of existence.

These facts are not well known as the rest of the world also uses this advanced technology but cannot announce it for fear of upsetting the Muslim world.

Ameica gets nothing back for the billions given outright to Egypt and other third world countries. And so America has benefited with its relationship with America. So be it...

Whatever
 
Why didn't you just put your opinion out there, back it up and ask for comments? Yes I think the UN is a failed institution. NO, I do not think its demise will help Israel achieve what it wants. I think the world already knows that Israel is one of the worlds largest exporters of weapons. These are bound to end up in the hands of people you may not approve of.
 
Originally posted by ajwps
Any grand concepts of a united world body is doomed to failure for all the reasons you mentioned and more.

Im not sure any grand concept is doomed to failure. Just that this one deffinately is. There is only one political organization that could possibly unite the world under one government. thats the United States of America. We already have the way set up to let in states. The federal laws work. We have a military and police force to enforce those laws.

However, with this said it will never happen because there will be many nations that will never volentarily join the union under our conditions. thats fine. I trying to unite the world under one government is asking for trouble anyway.
 
The United Nations is a fairly silly organization, mostly busy-body liberals. I suppose some of their works are decent.

But the fact that they are not under Jewish control has Jews a little ticked. Jews are upset because they control the U.S. and its media and most of Europe and its media. So this is just a little inconvenient for them. It's like having all the hotels in Monopoly except for one.

Darn!

If the U.S. backed Jewish interests, it would be flooded with money and lavished with praise.
 
Originally posted by dilloduck
Why didn't you just put your opinion out there, back it up and ask for comments? Yes I think the UN is a failed institution. NO, I do not think its demise will help Israel achieve what it wants. I think the world already knows that Israel is one of the worlds largest exporters of weapons. These are bound to end up in the hands of people you may not approve of.

The demise of the UN will help no one including Israel. It is simply a forum for Islamic propaganda and resolutions that make them appear to appose their own charter.

Israel is by no means anywhere near the world's largest exporter of weaponry even though many feel that this is the case. Israel simply develops and modifies existing weapons systems used mainly by western societies.

It makes little sense to sell top of the line military hardware or technology to those countries or enemies that will simply turn them against Israel. Israel has improved and modified the US Air Force jets and then tested them in war time conditions with Russian made MIG jets over the Bekka valley. The following is an example of what Israel has done to field test equipment and risk Israeli pilot's lives in order to test them in real war time without putting American pilots at risk.

http://www.bridgesforpeace.com/publications/teaching/Article-32.html

In June 1982, Israel launched the "Operation Peace for Galilee" campaign........

In the first days of the war, approximately 100 Israeli US-made jets faced off over Lebanon's Beka'a Valley with an equal number of Syrian, Russian-made MiGs. Israel also faced Syrian ground-to-air SAM missiles, which had taken a heavy toll on Israeli planes in 1973. At the end of one day, the Israel Air Force shot down 90 of the Syrian MiGs, while not one Israeli jet was lost. An Israeli government minister commented at the time that this had to be a miracle of God in the face of such odds. "Surely," he said, "Israel should have lost one plane due to mechanical or human failure."
 
Originally posted by William Joyce
The United Nations is a fairly silly organization, mostly busy-body liberals. I suppose some of their works are decent.

But the fact that they are not under Jewish control has Jews a little ticked. Jews are upset because they control the U.S. and its media and most of Europe and its media. So this is just a little inconvenient for them. It's like having all the hotels in Monopoly except for one.

Darn!

If the U.S. backed Jewish interests, it would be flooded with money and lavished with praise.

Yeh the world lavishes their love on the Jewish people and Israel. The Jews control the world by being less than .01% of the world's population. So said the Indonisian leader who happens to be a Muslim. Reverend Moon, the Korean religious leader who saved the souls of Adolph Hitler and Joe Stalin due to their listening to his preaching, he marries hundreds of couples in large auditorium weddings and he says that the Jews were responsible for the holocaust because they killed Jesus Christ.

Joyce why is that you fear those Jews who are so few among the world but whom you and your ilk have failed to destroy from the face of the earth? I love it when I and a few innocents make you feel so threatened that you spew your venome against so few.

Heil Heir Reichfurhrer
 
Originally posted by Avatar4321

Im not sure any grand concept is doomed to failure. Just that this one deffinately is. There is only one political organization that could possibly unite the world under one government. thats the United States of America. We already have the way set up to let in states. The federal laws work. We have a military and police force to enforce those laws.

You are talking like the U.S must play the role of the Lone Ranger to the world. There have been many civilizations who have attempted to rule the world but so far all are now EXTINCT. Not one succeeded and you think the US can do it?

However, with this said it will never happen because there will be many nations that will never volentarily join the union under our conditions. thats fine. I trying to unite the world under one government is asking for trouble anyway.

Brother you said a mouthful...
 

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