United Methodist Church To Split Over Gay Marriage

[Ringtone]

It sickens me that hypocrites use the bible as a shield for their bigotry and hatred. They make the same arguments the bigots who opposed interracial marriages. Not one difference.

What book are you using to justify your bigotry and hatred for Christians who hold to the Bible's teachings on human sexuality?.

What are the Bible's teachings on human sexuality?

Mostly the Bible- and Jesus- preach how adultery is a sin. It is even one of the 10 Commandments. And adultery includes any divorced person who remarries and has sex- unless the reason for the divorce is because his wife(not husband, only wife) committed adultery.

So according to the teachings of the Bible, Trump is committing adultery every time he has sex with Melania.

Yet, oddly enough, those who justify their bigotry towards gays based upon the Bible never spend any time criticizing Trump's adultery. Or Newt Gingrich's. Or virtually any 'conservative' who has divorced and remarried multiple times.

This is called cherry picking what part of the Bible you choose to pretend to care about.

You don't know what you are talking about.

I know the Bible. And have observed how many so-called Christians ignore the parts of the Bible(adultery/divorce) that are 'inconvenient' while focusing on issues that are not even mentioned in the Bible(abortion) or barely mentioned(sex between men).

The fact is that both the 10 Commandments and Jesus condemned adultery. Neither condemned homosexuality.
The fact is that nowhere in the Bible is sex between women condemned.
The fact is that Jesus very specifically condemned divorce as adultery unless the wife had committed adultery.

According to the Bible the very act of Trump being married to Melania causes her to become an adulteress

But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for
marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and
anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

Why should they be?

They want to belong to a church which accepts them for what they are

Most of society has

I don't think so, RW.

After all, there are already plenty of radical episcopalianist and other Homoerotic churches out there, but now they are moving on to methodists

Does that mean that the remaining Methodist church will be Heteroerotic?

Homosexuality is flatly condemned by God's word, you fool. All sexual activity outside holy matrimony or in violation of holy matrimony is condemned by God's word, You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[rightwinger]

Why should they be?

They want to belong to a church which accepts them for what they are

Most of society has

I don't think so, RW.

After all, there are already plenty of radical episcopalianist and other Homoerotic churches out there, but now they are moving on to methodists

Churches will catch up with society

They used to lead

 

[ding]

Why should they be?

They want to belong to a church which accepts them for what they are

Most of society has

I don't think so, RW.

After all, there are already plenty of radical episcopalianist and other Homoerotic churches out there, but now they are moving on to methodists

Churches will catch up with society

They used to lead

It’s a cyclical thing. The more we suffer the more we rise to the occasion. The more we prosper the more selfish we become.

 

[Polishprince]

Why should they be?

They want to belong to a church which accepts them for what they are

Most of society has

I don't think so, RW.

After all, there are already plenty of radical episcopalianist and other Homoerotic churches out there, but now they are moving on to methodists

Churches will catch up with society

They used to lead

If society starts valuing Normalcy again, will the churches follow as well?

The problem that the churches have is that they have gone for thousands of years telling the faithful that Sin is bad and should be avoided. To suddenly move the other way and tell people its all good no matter what you do, is quite a 180 that they will have a problem leading the people on.

 

[Syriusly]

It sickens me that hypocrites use the bible as a shield for their bigotry and hatred. They make the same arguments the bigots who opposed interracial marriages. Not one difference.

What book are you using to justify your bigotry and hatred for Christians who hold to the Bible's teachings on human sexuality?.

What are the Bible's teachings on human sexuality?

Mostly the Bible- and Jesus- preach how adultery is a sin. It is even one of the 10 Commandments. And adultery includes any divorced person who remarries and has sex- unless the reason for the divorce is because his wife(not husband, only wife) committed adultery.

So according to the teachings of the Bible, Trump is committing adultery every time he has sex with Melania.

Yet, oddly enough, those who justify their bigotry towards gays based upon the Bible never spend any time criticizing Trump's adultery. Or Newt Gingrich's. Or virtually any 'conservative' who has divorced and remarried multiple times.

This is called cherry picking what part of the Bible you choose to pretend to care about.

You don't know what you are talking about.

I know the Bible. And have observed how many so-called Christians ignore the parts of the Bible(adultery/divorce) that are 'inconvenient' while focusing on issues that are not even mentioned in the Bible(abortion) or barely mentioned(sex between men).

The fact is that both the 10 Commandments and Jesus condemned adultery. Neither condemned homosexuality.
The fact is that nowhere in the Bible is sex between women condemned.
The fact is that Jesus very specifically condemned divorce as adultery unless the wife had committed adultery.

According to the Bible the very act of Trump being married to Melania causes her to become an adulteress

But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for
marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and
anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

Why should they be?

They want to belong to a church which accepts them for what they are

Most of society has

I don't think so, RW.

After all, there are already plenty of radical episcopalianist and other Homoerotic churches out there, but now they are moving on to methodists

Does that mean that the remaining Methodist church will be Heteroerotic?

Homosexuality is flatly condemned by God's word, you fool. All sexual activity outside holy matrimony or in violation of holy matrimony is condemned by God's word, You don't know what you're talking about.

Where does the Bible condemn sex between two women? Specifically.

How do you feel about Trump making his second wife an adulteress by marrying Melania? Or for having sex with a porn star after marrying Melania?

When I see you Bible thumpers as outraged by 'adultery' as you are about homosexuality I will believe that your prejudices are Bible based- and not just hypocrisy.

 

[Syriusly]

No comment? Really?

I guess Trump hasn't tweeted about it yet.

President Trump isn't a methodist, he's devout Presbyterian.

Even though his doofus pastor at Marble Collegiate has denounced and practically expelled him.

Sort of a stupid move by the minister, IMHO.

It would have been smarter to sign a contract for President Trump to give Sunday School lessons, like that church in Georgia did with Jimmy Carter. That church is still getting good attendance ,even though they are in the middle of nowhere in southern Georgia and Carter isn't a very compelling speaker.

If Trump gave the Sunday School lessons at MC Church, he could draw huge crowds in Manhattan, a huge tourist location as well as being in a city with 7 million residents. And Trump is much easier to listen to

The trouble with gay marriage is that it is not kind to people who just wanted grandchildren some day. That day never comes.

That is like saying the trouble with vasectomies is that it is not kind to people who just wanted grandchildren someday, and that day will never come.

 

[Syriusly]

Why should they be?

They want to belong to a church which accepts them for what they are

Most of society has

I don't think so, RW.

After all, there are already plenty of radical episcopalianist and other Homoerotic churches out there, but now they are moving on to methodists

Churches will catch up with society

They used to lead

If society starts valuing Normalcy again, will the churches follow as well?

The problem that the churches have is that they have gone for thousands of years telling the faithful that Sin is bad and should be avoided. To suddenly move the other way and tell people its all good no matter what you do, is quite a 180 that they will have a problem leading the people on.

What exactly is normal?

It was 'normal' 60 years ago for churches across America to preach that the races should be kept separate. It was normal in 1900 that women were considered the property of their fathers or husbands. It was 'normal' 200 years ago that churches preached that slavery was a God given right- and that slaves should obey their masters as Paul told Christians.

 

[rightwinger]

Why should they be?

They want to belong to a church which accepts them for what they are

Most of society has

I don't think so, RW.

After all, there are already plenty of radical episcopalianist and other Homoerotic churches out there, but now they are moving on to methodists

Churches will catch up with society

They used to lead

It’s a cyclical thing. The more we suffer the more we rise to the occasion. The more we prosper the more selfish we become.

Many churches did not object to slavery or Jim Crow. They even cited biblical reasons to justify it.

They eventually caught up with the rest of society. Same as they will with gay marriage

 

[Ringtone]

What book are you using to justify your bigotry and hatred for Christians who hold to the Bible's teachings on human sexuality?.

What are the Bible's teachings on human sexuality?

Mostly the Bible- and Jesus- preach how adultery is a sin. It is even one of the 10 Commandments. And adultery includes any divorced person who remarries and has sex- unless the reason for the divorce is because his wife(not husband, only wife) committed adultery.

So according to the teachings of the Bible, Trump is committing adultery every time he has sex with Melania.

Yet, oddly enough, those who justify their bigotry towards gays based upon the Bible never spend any time criticizing Trump's adultery. Or Newt Gingrich's. Or virtually any 'conservative' who has divorced and remarried multiple times.

This is called cherry picking what part of the Bible you choose to pretend to care about.

You don't know what you are talking about.

I know the Bible. And have observed how many so-called Christians ignore the parts of the Bible(adultery/divorce) that are 'inconvenient' while focusing on issues that are not even mentioned in the Bible(abortion) or barely mentioned(sex between men).

The fact is that both the 10 Commandments and Jesus condemned adultery. Neither condemned homosexuality.
The fact is that nowhere in the Bible is sex between women condemned.
The fact is that Jesus very specifically condemned divorce as adultery unless the wife had committed adultery.

According to the Bible the very act of Trump being married to Melania causes her to become an adulteress

But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for
marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and
anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

Why should they be?

They want to belong to a church which accepts them for what they are

Most of society has

I don't think so, RW.

After all, there are already plenty of radical episcopalianist and other Homoerotic churches out there, but now they are moving on to methodists

Does that mean that the remaining Methodist church will be Heteroerotic?

Homosexuality is flatly condemned by God's word, you fool. All sexual activity outside holy matrimony or in violation of holy matrimony is condemned by God's word, You don't know what you're talking about.

Where does the Bible condemn sex between two women? Specifically.

How do you feel about Trump making his second wife an adulteress by marrying Melania? Or for having sex with a porn star after marrying Melania?

When I see you Bible thumpers as outraged by 'adultery' as you are about homosexuality I will believe that your prejudices are Bible based- and not just hypocrisy.

You are an idiot.

 

[Ringtone]

Many churches did not object to slavery or Jim Crow. They even cited biblical reasons to justify it.

They eventually caught up with the rest of society. Same as they will with gay marriage

Utter nonsense. Informed by scripture, Christians led the way out of slavery all over the world, including the United States; the acceptance of sexual degeneracy and betrayal is regression.

 

[rightwinger]

Many churches did not object to slavery or Jim Crow. They even cited biblical reasons to justify it.

They eventually caught up with the rest of society. Same as they will with gay marriage

Utter nonsense. Informed by scripture, Christians led the way out of slavery all over the world, including the United States; the acceptance of sexual degeneracy and betrayal is regression.

Actually, ministers in the South had special sermons for slaves that emphasized Gods support of servitude.

 

[Polishprince]

Many churches did not object to slavery or Jim Crow. They even cited biblical reasons to justify it.

They eventually caught up with the rest of society. Same as they will with gay marriage

Utter nonsense. Informed by scripture, Christians led the way out of slavery all over the world, including the United States; the acceptance of sexual degeneracy and betrayal is regression.

Actually, ministers in the South had special sermons for slaves that emphasized Gods support of servitude.

There is nothing in common between slaves and people who are voluntarily taking it in the caboose.

Now, of course , Homosexuals today are persecuted if they try to convert to normalcy. Similar to slaves who were persecuted if they walked away. Did you know that Liberal States have actually passed laws that prevent people from helping homosexuals walk away from the life?

 

[rightwinger]

Many churches did not object to slavery or Jim Crow. They even cited biblical reasons to justify it.

They eventually caught up with the rest of society. Same as they will with gay marriage

Utter nonsense. Informed by scripture, Christians led the way out of slavery all over the world, including the United States; the acceptance of sexual degeneracy and betrayal is regression.

Actually, ministers in the South had special sermons for slaves that emphasized Gods support of servitude.

There is nothing in common between slaves and people who are voluntarily taking it in the caboose.

Now, of course , Homosexuals today are persecuted if they try to convert to normalcy. Similar to slaves who were persecuted if they walked away. Did you know that Liberal States have actually passed laws that prevent people from helping homosexuals walk away from the life?

Of course not
Slavery is a curse on humanity
Homosexuality is a victimless crime that harms nobody

 

[Polishprince]

Homosexuality is a victimless crime that harms nobody

Should people be allowed to leave Homosexuality, in your view, once they've "come out" for it?

Should folks be allowed to help gays who want to return to normalcy, through reparative therapy?

A lot of libs don't think so, so that would make Gaydom a form of slavery if someone can't leave.

Personally, my thoughts are that everyone should be able to choose their own orientation, change if they want, and contract with people if they feel they need help to make the change.

 

[rightwinger]

Homosexuality is a victimless crime that harms nobody

Should people be allowed to leave Homosexuality, in your view, once they've "come out" for it?

Should folks be allowed to help gays who want to return to normalcy, through reparative therapy?

A lot of libs don't think so, so that would make Gaydom a form of slavery if someone can't leave.

Personally, my thoughts are that everyone should be able to choose their own orientation, change if they want, and contract with people if they feel they need help to make the change.

Pray the gay out of them

And other moronic tactics

 

[Polishprince]

Homosexuality is a victimless crime that harms nobody

Should people be allowed to leave Homosexuality, in your view, once they've "come out" for it?

Should folks be allowed to help gays who want to return to normalcy, through reparative therapy?

A lot of libs don't think so, so that would make Gaydom a form of slavery if someone can't leave.

Personally, my thoughts are that everyone should be able to choose their own orientation, change if they want, and contract with people if they feel they need help to make the change.

Pray the gay out of them

And other moronic tactics

I'm not a scientist or health care professional, by any stretch of the imagination.

However, you should know that President Duterte successful went from gay to normal and others have as well. In spite of a lot of pressure from homo activists to bring them back to the fold.

Perhaps you were aware that Dr. Marcus Bachmann, husband of Rep. Michelle Bachmann, has made a successful life for his family helping men straighten themselves out

 

[Polishprince]

The third largest denomination in America is set to split up over gay marriage.

One branch will be spun off and will continue to oppose interracial gay marriage and gay clergy and casual Fridays.

The remaining branch, which sounds like it will be the bulk of the church, will allow gay marriage and gay clergy and wet T-shirt contests.

United Methodist Church is expected to split over gay marriage, fracturing the nation’s third-largest denomination

Friday’s announcement came as new sanctions were set to go into effect in the church, which would have made punishments for United Methodist Church pastors who perform same-sex weddings much more severe: one year’s suspension without pay for the first wedding and removal from the clergy for any wedding after that.

Instead, leaders from liberal and conservative wings signed an agreement saying they will postpone those sanctions and instead vote to split at the worldwide church’s May general conference.

They said the agreement was brokered by Kenneth Feinberg, the mediation expert who handled the compensation fund for victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, among other major negotiations.


"See you all in Hell!"

What's really interesting to me is that a generation ago, Methodists wouldn't even touch alcohol. And now they gone full bore the opposite way and not only drink but even take it in the caboose.

Maybe it was that first sip of "demon rum" that sent them straight to perdition.

 

[Ringtone]

Many churches did not object to slavery or Jim Crow. They even cited biblical reasons to justify it.

They eventually caught up with the rest of society. Same as they will with gay marriage

Utter nonsense. Informed by scripture, Christians led the way out of slavery all over the world, including the United States; the acceptance of sexual degeneracy and betrayal is regression.

Actually, ministers in the South had special sermons for slaves that emphasized Gods support of servitude.

Actually so what? Christian rulers ended the pagan practice of slavery in the West. The African slave trade was mostly vilified by the Western world and eventually stomped out again by Christians. Christians led the way against it! Lefty: always rewriting history out of his hatred for Christianity, the zenith of civilization. Now go take your baby-murdering, infanticidal-supporting ass out back and kick it. Christianity clearly condemns the brutalities of chattel slavery, and abortion as well as sexual activity outside of holy matrimony. You, like those "Christians" who say these things are okay, are a liar.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Homosexuality is flatly condemned by God's word

So what? Most people don't observe your silly iron aged version of a sky daddy or acknowledge he exists. why should anyone care what your sky daddy says or doesn't say?