Unions to make a come back in America

No, I get the point. Unions are themselves a self serving entity. Their best interests are not for the members but for themselves as a whole...or survival. They don't produce anything.

I agree with you...but you haven't answered my question.

If all labor wages were left completely to free-market principles, what would happen to wages right now, with 14% real unemployment?


Trying to think about this, considering we hadn't lost so many to overseas, I would think our unemployment wouldn't be as high. But as you mentioned in another thread, yesteryear's unions ie 50-60's were more in line with the American worker. My dad was union in construction and mining back then and they seemed to work pretty well. But then greed and survival ruined the unions.

My Granddad was a Union coal miner in Pennsylvania from the 1920's to the 1960's...without the Union, I might not be here today.

I've also worked for a Union, the IBEW. On the whole, pretty worthless.

But some organization has to look out for labor, counterbalancing Big Business.

That organization IMO will either be a reincarnation of the old labor unions or the government.
 
I'm noticing a trend- everyone's grandparents needed the unions. Today, with the original aims pretty much being achieved for the most part, and with sweeping legal forms put into place (socialism on the march), the unions are no longer needed as they once were. Combined with the greed that's taken root in many of them, more and more workers are rejecting them.

I appreciate what the unions did. I stand by the right to unionize and love the unions as I love the men who fought off the british empire. Would I vote for unionization where I work? No, because things now do not warrant or require it. That just about everyone in the US today can say they don't need the union- that they don't need to strike until the mines are reinforced or take over the factory until the gears are covered or slow down production until the 16-hour days are ended- is a testament to the victories won by the unions of old.

When I fly Old Glory, it is flanked by two others: the flag of the Sons of Liberty and the red flag. All dear are dear to me for the principles are represent, even if some who've flown them have betrayed those principles in the past.
 
I'm noticing a trend- everyone's grandparents needed the unions. Today, with the original aims pretty much being achieved for the most part, and with sweeping legal forms put into place (socialism on the march), the unions are no longer needed as they once were. Combined with the greed that's taken root in many of them, more and more workers are rejecting them.

I appreciate what the unions did. I stand by the right to unionize and love the unions as I love the men who fought off the british empire. Would I vote for unionization where I work? No, because things now do not warrant or require it. That just about everyone in the US today can say they don't need the union- that they don't need to strike until the mines are reinforced or take over the factory until the gears are covered or slow down production until the 16-hour days are ended- is a testament to the victories won by the unions of old.

When I fly Old Glory, it is flanked by two others: the flag of the Sons of Liberty and the red flag. All dear are dear to me for the principles are represent, even if some who've flown them have betrayed those principles in the past.


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