Unions to make a come back in America

[skookerasbil]

Oh......ps..........since Obama took office, the # of government workers making over 150K has increased X 10.

But thats ok to the class warfare crusader left on this forum.

 

[Intense]

Perhaps with this bill, the public servants will be able to establish unions to regain workers rights.

S.3194 - Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act of 2009
Declares that it is the purpose of this Act to provide collective bargaining rights for public safety officers employed by states or local governments. Directs the Federal Labor Relations Authority (FLRA) to determine whether a state substantially provides for specified rights and responsibilities for public safety officers, including: (1) granting public safety employees the right to form and join a labor organization which excludes management, supervisory, and confidential employees, and which is, or seeks to be, recognized as the exclusive bargaining agent for such employees; and (2) requiring public safety employers to recognize and agree to bargain with the employees' labor organization.

S. 3194 - Summary: Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

Perhaps with this Bill Union's will Fleece us like they have every time in the past. Fuck the Unions.

 

[The T]

so what, I missed your commentary that sets the debate or are you just reposting news for the benefit of users of usmb.

Perhaps with this bill, the public servants will be able to establish unions to regain workers rights.

What rights have they lost?

Good luck getting an answer. And if the poster does answer? It'll be made up bullshit that denies the reason the reason companies exist in the first place. [Based on the Statist premise that companies exist to give people jobs...and nothing else].

 

[Intense]

Union's have alway's been about Privilege, at someone else's expense, never about Right's, unless you mean depriving others of them.

 

[skookerasbil]

Union's have alway's been about Privilege, at someone else's expense, never about Right's, unless you mean depriving others of them.

unions + regulations = expensive American cars = gay.

Its all about destroying the American capitalist sytem

 

[The T]

Union's have alway's been about Privilege, at someone else's expense, never about Right's, unless you mean depriving others of them.

unions + regulations = expensive American cars = gay.

Its all about destroying the American capitalist sytem

Or as George Soros has dictated? 'From The Bottom Up' to neuter The United States in his quest to get his last remaining roadblock to his idea World Government off the ground.

 

[Intense]

Union's have alway's been about Privilege, at someone else's expense, never about Right's, unless you mean depriving others of them.

unions + regulations = expensive American cars = gay.

Its all about destroying the American capitalist sytem

It's also about the contributing to Communist Goal's around the world, since the funding of the Russian Revolution, through time. The Union's are Self Glorified Parasites.

 

[Kat]

Unions are for nothing else but for union DUES. They dont give a shit about the people.

The unions are how this country got to were we are now..... falling behind in the wold and people out of work.

Look at GM. Part of the bail out should have been the stipulation that no union would ever be allowed again.

Public servants should server the public, not the unions.

Amen sista! I couldn't agree more. I know first hand how unions SUCK!

 

[RadiomanATL]

Unions are a business.

 

[JBeukema]

so what, I missed your commentary that sets the debate or are you just reposting news for the benefit of users of usmb.

Perhaps with this bill, the public servants will be able to establish unions to regain workers rights.

Many public servants are unionized


they're just not allowed to strike


here they call it a 'police association', but it's a union by any fair application of the term

 

[Intense]

so what, I missed your commentary that sets the debate or are you just reposting news for the benefit of users of usmb.

Perhaps with this bill, the public servants will be able to establish unions to regain workers rights.

Many public servants are unionized


they're just not allowed to strike


here they call it a 'police association', but it's a union by any fair application of the term

There is little better we can do for the Republic than to completely remove Union's from Government. They contaminate, corrupt, and divide loyalty.

 

[JBeukema]

Perhaps with this bill, the public servants will be able to establish unions to regain workers rights.

S.3194 - Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act of 2009
Declares that it is the purpose of this Act to provide collective bargaining rights for public safety officers employed by states or local governments. Directs the Federal Labor Relations Authority (FLRA) to determine whether a state substantially provides for specified rights and responsibilities for public safety officers, including: (1) granting public safety employees the right to form and join a labor organization which excludes management, supervisory, and confidential employees, and which is, or seeks to be, recognized as the exclusive bargaining agent for such employees; and (2) requiring public safety employers to recognize and agree to bargain with the employees' labor organization.

S. 3194 - Summary: Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

As long as it legal to hire scabs unionism is basically worthless.

As long as we allow FREE TRADE to continue, unionism is not a solution.

fuck free trade

 

[JBeukema]

Faulty premise.

You must first show rights that the public servants have lost, that being a part of a union will restore.


(there are none)

I agree. I'm not seeing where there's a problem to be addressed in the first place here.

 

[JBeukema]

Unions are for nothing else but for union DUES. They dont give a shit about the people.

The unions are how this country got to were we are now..... falling behind in the wold and people out of work.

Look at GM. Part of the bail out should have been the stipulation that no union would ever be allowed again.

Public servants should server the public, not the unions.

Do you know anything about the time before the unions?

Unions as such aren't the problem. Unions that have become greedy, told the rest of their fellow-workers to fuck off, and forgot what the point of the union is supposed to be in the first place, instead turning the union into a tool for self-defeating class warfare- therein lies the problem

 

[JBeukema]

The age of the unions in the U.S. has largely passed. They were victorious. Now they've gotten greedy and many have become largely self-defeating.

The last real battle to be won by the labourer in America is the fight against 'free trade', which undermines all the working class in America has gained

 

[Missourian]

Unions to make a come back in America

Perhaps with this bill, the public servants will be able to establish unions to regain workers rights.


S. 3194 - Summary: Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

I have summoned a mental image of you posting this...wearing a pair of bell-bottoms while listening to an 8-track tape.

 

[JBeukema]

Union's have alway's been about Privilege, at someone else's expense, never about Right's, unless you mean depriving others of them.

Read a history book

 

[Intense]

Unions are for nothing else but for union DUES. They dont give a shit about the people.

The unions are how this country got to were we are now..... falling behind in the wold and people out of work.

Look at GM. Part of the bail out should have been the stipulation that no union would ever be allowed again.

Public servants should server the public, not the unions.

Do you know anything about the time before the unions?

Unions as such aren't the problem. Unions that have become greedy, told the rest of their fellow-workers to fuck off, and forgot what the point of the union is supposed to be in the first place, instead turning the union into a tool for self-defeating class warfare- therein lies the problem

The repair is in Labor Laws that are fair minded, and effect each of us. Union's effect themselves , usually at someone else's expense. Union's support an Ideal in direct conflict with Federalism, Life, Liberty, the Defense of Property, and The Pursuit of Happiness.

 

[JBeukema]

Union's have alway's been about Privilege, at someone else's expense, never about Right's, unless you mean depriving others of them.

unions + regulations = expensive American cars = gay.

Its all about destroying the American capitalist sytem

you know what else drive up prices that conservatives were against?


abolition

just sayin

 

[JBeukema]

Unions are for nothing else but for union DUES. They dont give a shit about the people.

The unions are how this country got to were we are now..... falling behind in the wold and people out of work.

Look at GM. Part of the bail out should have been the stipulation that no union would ever be allowed again.

Public servants should server the public, not the unions.

Do you know anything about the time before the unions?

Unions as such aren't the problem. Unions that have become greedy, told the rest of their fellow-workers to fuck off, and forgot what the point of the union is supposed to be in the first place, instead turning the union into a tool for self-defeating class warfare- therein lies the problem

The repair is in Labor Laws that are fair minded, and effect each of us. Union's effect themselves , usually at someone else's expense. Union's support an Ideal in direct conflict with Federalism, Life, Liberty, the Defense of Property, and The Pursuit of Happiness.

1)The unions were a driving force in getting labour laws passed

2)who can afford to give congress more money: the owner of the company or the wage-labourer? That's a big part of why it was so hard and took so long to get good labour laws passed. Hence it was necessary to win in the factory and with the boss himself. That's where collective bargaining and strikes came into play. You seem ignorant to the history of the labour movement.

3)Federalism was a stepping stone to authoritarianism

4)Life? You mean like requiring that mines be reinforced to prevent cave-ins? liberty? You mean wages above subsistence and the 8-hr work day? Defense of property? You mean like taking measures to end the practice of the company town and the abuses that came with it? Pursuit of happiness? Compare the condition of the working class today to the days before the unions and the labour movement.