Unions to levy 10 dollar fee against members to support Obama re-election bid

I'll tell you what... when all lobbyists are out of Washington, when all the "superpacs" and their anonymous donors are disbanded, When all of the corporate money for Corporate interests are banned... I'll agree to the idea that Unions... who represent LABOR should be banned too.

I won't hold my breath though.

How about the 13 out of 20 top donors from 1989-2010? 12 were UNIONS and and one was trial lawyers and every one of them gave over 90% to Democrats.

On the other hand, the other top 7 donors were 60/40 to 50/50 between Democrats and Republicans.

Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 | OpenSecrets

and how much do all unions give as compared to ALL corporations. They are top donors because there are less of them so the donations are concentrated. That's a bullshit statistic.
 
More examples from the New Right of their hypocrisy. Always willing to take other peoples money, but hysterical when they suffer a simple tax which benefits all.

Well, that’s the problem Wry Catcher, in typical left-wing Nazi propaganda fashion – you have completely reversed the truth. See, conservatives don’t “take other people’s money”. That’s what the Communist/Socialist/Marxist liberals do. Conservatives EARN other people’s money by providing good and services (ie business).

Wealthy people EARNED their money. The lazy, drug consuming liberals on the left TAKE our money in the form of taxes. And then, using their propaganda, they deem it as a “benefit for all” (direct quote my friend). First of all, the “benefit for all” is Communism. It is the principle that the U.S.S.R. was built on and which ultimately lead to their collapse. They then turned to Capitalism to get out of the nightmare of Communism/Socialism. Cuba also believes in the “benefit for all” – how is that working out for them? (Hint: they have lived in a state of perpetual poverty since Castro took over some 50 years ago). Second, who are you to decide what is a “benefit for all”? What you consider to be a benefit, I consider to be a cancer to America. So who are you exactly to decide what is a “benefit for all”? I’m just curious.
 
According to uneducated ignorami, unions are bad for their members. Yet for some strange reason union members by and large continue to vote in or extending their union charters. Probably because they think they're getting the shaft. :doubt:

Some of you dingbats are really really fuck'n stupid. No offense.

Governor Cuomo in New York is the new Union hero. Rather than assess the members with paying a little of their health care and retirement to help balance the budget, he laid off 9,800 union members with the blessing of the Union.

Walker saved 2500 union jobs in Wisconsin and is hated by the unions.

Remind me to NEVER join a union that throws its paying members under the bus.

It just goes to show Too Tall exactly how dumb the Dumbocrats are. They are like children – with no sense of fiscal responsibility or economics. They think a union janitor should make six-figures, have full cadillac health care benefits at no cost to his family, plus an ungodly pension.

Dumbocrats are so dumb, they hate conservative leaders who are saving their jobs (as you pointed out). They believe everyone should make six-figures nation wide so that we are all “equal”. Never realizing, of course, that if everyone had six-figures, everyone would be in poverty because six-figures would be worthless. When everyone is “equal”, they are equally impoverished.
 
1) Once a worker is paid he or she can spend her money and way they wish. Once they collect their pay it's none of your damned business what they do with it.

That is true, but that does not change the answer of where the money comes from to pay government employees: taxpayers

Correct. But it is money that is EARNED by doing work that the taxpayer expects to be done.

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My problem is not with the good teachers. Its with the unions taking advantage of them in order to support an agenda that ultimately hurts their members. The unions have gotten so greedy and now its all crashing down around them because of the greed. It hurts everyone from my house to the classroom.
As far as Fox goes, complain away. This topic is not a product of the media, its a product of 40+ years of seeing whats happening to our schools. I pay alot of taxes which pay their salerys so I figure I have a voice in how my money is spent.

Just how ARE the unions taking advantage of them in order to support an agenda that ultimately hurts their members?

AGAIN, since you still haven't grasped a basic concept of employment law, once you pay their salaries, (SPELLED WITH 2 A's), you do NOT have a right to decide how those teachers choose to spend their salaries. That's up to them!
Since union dues are deducted before ever becoming the 'employee's money'. Therefore, your argument is moot.

HUH!!?? It is usually deducted directly from their wages dipwad.

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Pay their FAIR SHARE into retirement and health benefits that the private sector has no equal to.

Jobs in the private sector don't have matching 401ks and health insurance? When did this happen?

Oh, wait. You probably meant that to be a non-factual statement. Good job.
Private sector jobs don't have DEFINED LIFETIME BENEFITS like public sector jobs. Know the difference.

Yes they do. Anywhere corporations have defined pension benefits they are required by law to fund it adequately.

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1) Once a worker is paid he or she can spend her money and way they wish. Once they collect their pay it's none of your damned business what they do with it.

2) NOBODY is forced to donate to political candidates or parties. They can opt out per federal law and, in fact, many do.


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Thanks ... excellent

Re-posting..because

I still don't think those on the right don't quite GRASP this concept that, once you pay someone for work they do for you, that pay is THEIRS, not the payers, to do with what the payee wants.

I pay my doctor $1000 in medical bills, that doctor uses some of the money to lobby for higher co-pays for medicare. AGAINST MY INTERESTS!!!

I pay a lawyer $250 to revise a will for me. He spends part of that money funding his run for local office against my preferred candidate.

I pay bank fees and my bank makes money on my deposits, too. The bank lobbies for legislation to charge higher interest on credit cards for people like me, and for the right NOT to pay interest on average balances as small as mine.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.....

ALL OF THEM HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR EARNINGS, EVEN IF I DON'T LIKE IT!!


Maybe THESE examples will sink in to the clueless on the right.

yea, its not like "OUR" kids are in the hands of the unions that you claim we have no right to question

idiot

My wife is a union teacher and a damned good one who cares about the kids in her classroom if that's what your referring to.

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Teachers Unions to hammer their members with another fee just for Obama. If this wasn't so stupid I almost dismissed it as a joke.
Didn't we just go through several months of the Unions screaming about "fair treatment"? Don't teachers cry about buying school supplies with their own money?
But now, "without consent or asking" the union will now "take" more money from teachers without a second thought in support of Obama.
If you ask me shouldn't Mr O stand up and say "i will not stand by why you are forced to contribute from your already small pay check for my benefit"

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2011/07/05/obamas_price_$10_tax_for_union_teachers-_you_pay

Have and display some dignity Mr O.

if my Union ever did that for anyone.....im out of there........
 
More examples from the New Right of their hypocrisy. Always willing to take other peoples money, but hysterical when they suffer a simple tax which benefits all.

what simple tax?......and how does soaking the Teachers for another 10 bucks benefit all of us?....
 
Are teachers taxpayers?

Taxpayers in states and communities beneifted from the stimulus - roads repaired, rebuilt and expanded, bridges repaired and built to somewhere and businesses given taxpayer money in the form of tax cuts.

Teachers are for the most part not paid by the Federal Government; your income tax paid to Uncle Sam goes to the Congress who you directly elect to proportion your money as your representative sees fit. For over a decade Congress has seen fit to prosecute war at an enormous cost of blood and treasure while ignoring the plight of the people at home.

Teachers have an important job, one which has become politicized by the far right who hope to circumvent the First Amendment by packing school boards with persons fixated on "respecting an establishment of religion", and others who hope to take taxpayers money to subsidize private schools.

If true, the only things sure in life are death and taxes, maybe instead of crying about taxes you ought to put your energy into making sure the taxes you pay go to real services and combating real enemies (poverty, disease, ignorance, crime, drug addiction, including alcohol and tobacco) and not making war on nouns (terror and drugs).

what does all this have to do with teachers and their Union and the 10.00 dollar fee to re-elect Obama?....
 
Teachers Unions to hammer their members with another fee just for Obama. If this wasn't so stupid I almost dismissed it as a joke.
Didn't we just go through several months of the Unions screaming about "fair treatment"? Don't teachers cry about buying school supplies with their own money?
But now, "without consent or asking" the union will now "take" more money from teachers without a second thought in support of Obama.
If you ask me shouldn't Mr O stand up and say "i will not stand by why you are forced to contribute from your already small pay check for my benefit"

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2011/07/05/obamas_price_$10_tax_for_union_teachers-_you_pay

Have and display some dignity Mr O.

“The Representative Assembly recommended that NEA members vote to re-elect President Barack Obama in the 2012 election” wrote Will Potter of the National Education Association. “They also voted for a $10 annual dues increase that will be dedicated to funding NEA's Crisis Fund, a program designed to put money back into the states for pro-public education outreach.”



I don't see how you got that misinterpretation of union dues funding Obama. Are you crosseyed?
 
Are teachers taxpayers?

Taxpayers in states and communities beneifted from the stimulus - roads repaired, rebuilt and expanded, bridges repaired and built to somewhere and businesses given taxpayer money in the form of tax cuts.

Teachers are for the most part not paid by the Federal Government; your income tax paid to Uncle Sam goes to the Congress who you directly elect to proportion your money as your representative sees fit. For over a decade Congress has seen fit to prosecute war at an enormous cost of blood and treasure while ignoring the plight of the people at home.

Teachers have an important job, one which has become politicized by the far right who hope to circumvent the First Amendment by packing school boards with persons fixated on "respecting an establishment of religion", and others who hope to take taxpayers money to subsidize private schools.

If true, the only things sure in life are death and taxes, maybe instead of crying about taxes you ought to put your energy into making sure the taxes you pay go to real services and combating real enemies (poverty, disease, ignorance, crime, drug addiction, including alcohol and tobacco) and not making war on nouns (terror and drugs).

what does all this have to do with teachers and their Union and the 10.00 dollar fee to re-elect Obama?....

someone fell off the wagon today.:lol:
 
Thanks ... excellent

Re-posting..because

I still don't think those on the right don't quite GRASP this concept that, once you pay someone for work they do for you, that pay is THEIRS, not the payers, to do with what the payee wants.

I pay my doctor $1000 in medical bills, that doctor uses some of the money to lobby for higher co-pays for medicare. AGAINST MY INTERESTS!!!

I pay a lawyer $250 to revise a will for me. He spends part of that money funding his run for local office against my preferred candidate.

I pay bank fees and my bank makes money on my deposits, too. The bank lobbies for legislation to charge higher interest on credit cards for people like me, and for the right NOT to pay interest on average balances as small as mine.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.....

ALL OF THEM HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR EARNINGS, EVEN IF I DON'T LIKE IT!!


Maybe THESE examples will sink in to the clueless on the right.

yea, its not like "OUR" kids are in the hands of the unions that you claim we have no right to question

idiot

My wife is a union teacher and a damned good one who cares about the kids in her classroom if that's what your referring to.

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Did I ever mention your wife? Is she one of the bad tenured teachers ripping off the system?

If you answer no, and you obviously will then your post is pointless to this debate. Having said that if she is one of the good teachers then she should certainly have a problem with this. What if the money was going to Bush?
 
Teachers Unions to hammer their members with another fee just for Obama. If this wasn't so stupid I almost dismissed it as a joke.
Didn't we just go through several months of the Unions screaming about "fair treatment"? Don't teachers cry about buying school supplies with their own money?
But now, "without consent or asking" the union will now "take" more money from teachers without a second thought in support of Obama.
If you ask me shouldn't Mr O stand up and say "i will not stand by why you are forced to contribute from your already small pay check for my benefit"

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2011/07/05/obamas_price_$10_tax_for_union_teachers-_you_pay

Have and display some dignity Mr O.

“The Representative Assembly recommended that NEA members vote to re-elect President Barack Obama in the 2012 election” wrote Will Potter of the National Education Association. “They also voted for a $10 annual dues increase that will be dedicated to funding NEA's Crisis Fund, a program designed to put money back into the states for pro-public education outreach.”



I don't see how you got that misinterpretation of union dues funding Obama. Are you crosseyed?

I got it from not having my head in the sand all these years. What do you think public outreach education means? What public communication have the unions had in the past that weren't political commercials? And its called an emergency fund because resurecting this administration is gonna require some talented plastic surgery to hide the grotesque scars that is his record.
 
In my community there are signs everywhere highway and bridge repair, expansion, etc. are underway advertising the project is paid for in part by the Reinvestment and Recovery Act. The Bay Bridge job will last years and provide hundreds of jobs; roads in my county are under repair, being maintained to prevent greater costs in the future; highways are being widened to accomadate BART expansion, taking more cars off the road during commutes. In fact public transportaton improvements and expansion will benefit generations to come.

It that's not happening in Texas, maybe you ought to ask why. Oh, and isn't Texas burning, and aren't Texans crying they want my money to put out their fire? Hypocrisy, an essential tool for all members of the New Right.

must be nice having Pelosi pull strings for you up there.....the 91 freeway down here is in horrible shape.....they dont even fix the dam potholes.....the 5 freeway is also falling apart......i have only seen one or two of those signs you speak of around here......i guess Loretta Sanchez just does not have any clout.....
 
Teachers Unions to hammer their members with another fee just for Obama. If this wasn't so stupid I almost dismissed it as a joke.
Didn't we just go through several months of the Unions screaming about "fair treatment"? Don't teachers cry about buying school supplies with their own money?
But now, "without consent or asking" the union will now "take" more money from teachers without a second thought in support of Obama.
If you ask me shouldn't Mr O stand up and say "i will not stand by why you are forced to contribute from your already small pay check for my benefit"

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2011/07/05/obamas_price_$10_tax_for_union_teachers-_you_pay

Have and display some dignity Mr O.

“The Representative Assembly recommended that NEA members vote to re-elect President Barack Obama in the 2012 election” wrote Will Potter of the National Education Association. “They also voted for a $10 annual dues increase that will be dedicated to funding NEA's Crisis Fund, a program designed to put money back into the states for pro-public education outreach.”



I don't see how you got that misinterpretation of union dues funding Obama. Are you crosseyed?

I got it from not having my head in the sand all these years. What do you think public outreach education means? What public communication have the unions had in the past that weren't political commercials? And its called an emergency fund because resurecting this administration is gonna require some talented plastic surgery to hide the grotesque scars that is his record.

Is that a leprechaun on your shoulder?
 
In my community there are signs everywhere highway and bridge repair, expansion, etc. are underway advertising the project is paid for in part by the Reinvestment and Recovery Act. The Bay Bridge job will last years and provide hundreds of jobs; roads in my county are under repair, being maintained to prevent greater costs in the future; highways are being widened to accomadate BART expansion, taking more cars off the road during commutes. In fact public transportaton improvements and expansion will benefit generations to come.

It that's not happening in Texas, maybe you ought to ask why. Oh, and isn't Texas burning, and aren't Texans crying they want my money to put out their fire? Hypocrisy, an essential tool for all members of the New Right.

must be nice having Pelosi pull strings for you up there.....the 91 freeway down here is in horrible shape.....they dont even fix the dam potholes.....the 5 freeway is also falling apart......i have only seen one or two of those signs you speak of around here......i guess Loretta Sanchez just does not have any clout.....

She just forgot too hold out and sell her vote like so many other dems did
 
“The Representative Assembly recommended that NEA members vote to re-elect President Barack Obama in the 2012 election” wrote Will Potter of the National Education Association. “They also voted for a $10 annual dues increase that will be dedicated to funding NEA's Crisis Fund, a program designed to put money back into the states for pro-public education outreach.”



I don't see how you got that misinterpretation of union dues funding Obama. Are you crosseyed?

I got it from not having my head in the sand all these years. What do you think public outreach education means? What public communication have the unions had in the past that weren't political commercials? And its called an emergency fund because resurecting this administration is gonna require some talented plastic surgery to hide the grotesque scars that is his record.

Is that a leprechaun on your shoulder?

That's it? That's the best argument you can provide for the left? No wonder were in so much trouble.
 
There was a saying not long ago that the only places that had unions were the places that deserved Unions and those supporting the unions were not worth hiring.

Today's Business environment is unlike those days in the past.

Today Unions are nothing more than Political money making machines that server utterly no purpose for those who pay the Hostage fee's

So if all unions were gone, companies would still honour all the gains that those unions made.

You're kidding yourself.


Not at all familiar with labor laws are you? Today's environment is far different that what it was business today have far more to fear from being sued then they do from getting jack by unions

Robert your a real nice guy and all......but if the Company does not abide by those laws because nobody is standing over their shoulder to make sure they do.....then they dont do much good.....i work for the PO.....those guys break all kinds of agreements they make and will try and skirt around safety laws if they can.....i see this every day.....if it wasnt for the Unions raising hell about it they would get away with it....some places still need a Union.....the Federal Govt being one.....
 
Teachers forgot they worked for the Taxpayers a very long time ago. Now they think it's the other way around. Unions should have never been allowed in Government. It really is in their best interests to screw Taxpayers. It's how this flawed System works. So it will go on & on unless Public Unions are abolished.

so workers in the Public sector get treated better than those in the private sectors i suppose.....no one gets fucked over....right?.......the bosses are just so wonderful.....you just cant wait to get to work every day .....
 

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