Unions suffer sharp decline in membership

[OohPooPahDoo]

Good riddance

Hooray for lower wages!

Union jobs are better paying jobs and consequently union workers pay more taxes than non-union workers.

Keep making American workers poorer and they'll not only pay less taxes, they'll also vote themselves more government assistance.

Careful what you wish for.

Man, someone should really let those workers know that they're making less money now by not paying union dues..

Of course they'll be making less money genius. Why would owners continue to pay union wages to non-union workers? LOL!

 

[tooAlive]

If unions are so amazing, can someone explain to me why membership rates are declining?

Wouldn't it make sense that more people would want to join if the benefits were so great?

 

[tooAlive]

Hooray for lower wages!

Union jobs are better paying jobs and consequently union workers pay more taxes than non-union workers.

Keep making American workers poorer and they'll not only pay less taxes, they'll also vote themselves more government assistance.

Careful what you wish for.

Man, someone should really let those workers know that they're making less money now by not paying union dues..

Of course they'll be making less money genius. Why would owners continue to pay union wages to non-union workers? LOL!

Then why are memberships to unions declining??

Your argument holds no water. Employers can't just drastically pay workers less because they'd quit. If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

 

[regent]

Unions were an answer to problems. Now with laws, enlightened management, and labor unions most of the problems have eased. If the problems come back with gusto, labor unions will revive. Let's hope the labor problems do not return.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

If unions are so amazing, can someone explain to me why membership rates are declining?

Because big business is doing everything they can to break them up.

Wouldn't it make sense that more people would want to join if the benefits were so great?

The benefits aren't so great when RTW laws are passed. That's the fucking point of passing them.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Man, someone should really let those workers know that they're making less money now by not paying union dues..

Of course they'll be making less money genius. Why would owners continue to pay union wages to non-union workers? LOL!

Then why are memberships to unions declining??

Your argument holds no water. Employers can't just drastically pay workers less because they'd quit.

They'd quit and make zero dollars, not really much of an alternative, is it?

If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

If you had the common sense of a collection of three rocks you'd know that collective bargaining of any kind yields a better deal for those in the group doing the bargaining. Why do you think Wal Mart can deliver such great prices? Because they bargain for a HUGE amount of goods. If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Of course they'll be making less money genius. Why would owners continue to pay union wages to non-union workers? LOL!

Then why are memberships to unions declining??

Your argument holds no water. Employers can't just drastically pay workers less because they'd quit.

They'd quit and make zero dollars, not really much of an alternative, is it?

If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

If you had the common sense of a collection of three rocks you'd know that collective bargaining of any kind yields a better deal for those in the group doing the bargaining. Why do you think Wal Mart can deliver such great prices? Because they bargain for a HUGE amount of goods. If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

Then why wouldn't they join th eunion?

This argument makes no sense.... "unions are great for wages so less and less people join the unions."

Absolutely no sense AT ALL.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Then why are memberships to unions declining??

Your argument holds no water. Employers can't just drastically pay workers less because they'd quit.

They'd quit and make zero dollars, not really much of an alternative, is it?

If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

If you had the common sense of a collection of three rocks you'd know that collective bargaining of any kind yields a better deal for those in the group doing the bargaining. Why do you think Wal Mart can deliver such great prices? Because they bargain for a HUGE amount of goods. If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

Then why wouldn't they join th eunion?

This argument makes no sense.... "unions are great for wages so less and less people join the unions."

Absolutely no sense AT ALL.

Why wouldn't you join a union in a state where laws have been passed to make unions essentially powerless?

Is that a serious question?

 

[Seawytch]

 

[tooAlive]

They'd quit and make zero dollars, not really much of an alternative, is it?

If you had the common sense of a collection of three rocks you'd know that collective bargaining of any kind yields a better deal for those in the group doing the bargaining. Why do you think Wal Mart can deliver such great prices? Because they bargain for a HUGE amount of goods. If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

Then why wouldn't they join th eunion?

This argument makes no sense.... "unions are great for wages so less and less people join the unions."

Absolutely no sense AT ALL.

Why wouldn't you join a union in a state where laws have been passed to make unions essentially powerless?

Is that a serious question?

So if Unions are powerless, why do we need them in the first place?

Your words, not mine.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

They'd quit and make zero dollars, not really much of an alternative, is it?

If you had the common sense of a collection of three rocks you'd know that collective bargaining of any kind yields a better deal for those in the group doing the bargaining. Why do you think Wal Mart can deliver such great prices? Because they bargain for a HUGE amount of goods. If you had any business knowledge whatsoever you'd know.

Then why wouldn't they join th eunion?

This argument makes no sense.... "unions are great for wages so less and less people join the unions."

Absolutely no sense AT ALL.

Why wouldn't you join a union in a state where laws have been passed to make unions essentially powerless?

Is that a serious question?

How is not forcing you to join a union making unions powerless? So, then can only accomplish what they want to accomplish by forced membership?

REALLY???? Is this what you are advocating? Do you realize what you are saying?

 

[tooAlive]

Then why wouldn't they join th eunion?

This argument makes no sense.... "unions are great for wages so less and less people join the unions."

Absolutely no sense AT ALL.

Why wouldn't you join a union in a state where laws have been passed to make unions essentially powerless?

Is that a serious question?

How is not forcing you to join a union making unions powerless? So, then can only accomplish what they want to accomplish by forced membership?

REALLY???? Is this what you are advocating? Do you realize what you are saying?

He's probably regretting having typed that up. It usually happens when you have no idea what you're saying or what you really want.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Good riddance

Hooray for lower wages!

Union jobs are better paying jobs and consequently union workers pay more taxes than non-union workers.

Keep making American workers poorer and they'll not only pay less taxes, they'll also vote themselves more government assistance.

Careful what you wish for.

Man, someone should really let those workers know that they're making less money now by not paying union dues..

If you're happy with this trend, you're either rich or insane.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We can get the jobs back from China when our wages get to a buck an hour or so.

Apparently that is the conservative dream scenario.

 

[SniperFire]

We can get the jobs back from China when our wages get to a buck an hour or so.

Apparently that is the conservative dream scenario.

Liberals are the least likely demographic in America to purchase a union-man made product.

'We' won't get 'our' jobs back until YOU start putting your money where your fat mouth is.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We can get the jobs back from China when our wages get to a buck an hour or so.

Apparently that is the conservative dream scenario.

Liberals are the least likely demographic in America to purchase a union-man made product.

'We' won't get 'our' jobs back until YOU start putting your money where your fat mouth is.

It's quite a chore around here to make the most senseless post of the day, given the number of rightwingers vying for the title.

You have succeeded though.

 

[Freewill]

We can get the jobs back from China when our wages get to a buck an hour or so.

Apparently that is the conservative dream scenario.

Except it was a democrat who did it to the working man. William Jefferson Clinton, the worse president ever his "free" trade agreements being perhaps the biggest reason why. Me, I am not like the Unions, when I say something I mean it. They said that anyone who supported the "free" trade agreements they would not support. Clinton pushed them harder then he pushed anything in his term, the Unions did NOTHING. Clinton screwed the country like no other thank goodness we had GWB to handle Clinton's recession and not Obama.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Then why wouldn't they join th eunion?

This argument makes no sense.... "unions are great for wages so less and less people join the unions."

Absolutely no sense AT ALL.

Why wouldn't you join a union in a state where laws have been passed to make unions essentially powerless?

Is that a serious question?

How is not forcing you to join a union making unions powerless? So, then can only accomplish what they want to accomplish by forced membership?

REALLY???? Is this what you are advocating? Do you realize what you are saying?

No one is forced to join a union. If you live in a union state and do not wish to join a union, don't apply for work at a business with a union shop agreement.


Are people "forced" to pay the toll for the Crescent City Connection? No, they aren't. They can simply not use the CCC and avoid the toll - there are other ways to cross the river. You can use that scary ass Huey P Long bridge instead.

On the other hand, if the bridge were not ever allowed to levy a mandatory toll on users of the bridge - instead relying on drivers to voluntarily pay a toll only if they feel like it - it may never have been built.


Unions create contracts with business that are of value to their members. If that value isn't worth the dues - simply don't apply for work at a union shop. But if the dues are voluntary, then its not likely the union will be able to negotiate many contracts with business. That's the entire point of incorrectly named "right to work" laws - to break unions and make them powerless. It has nothing to do with a "right to work" as there was never an infringement of the "right to work" in union states. You don't have a "right to work" free from conditions imposed by your employer. If you employer says you must be clean shaven or wear a beard net to work in his kitchen - then your "right to work" is not infringed if he fires you for failure to do so. The union shop is a condition imposed by the employer per their voluntarily agreed to contract with the agent of labor and its no different than any other sort of exclusivity agreement between business and other entities.