Unions in the US

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Unions in the US

  1. are evil communists who hate America

    6.3%
  2. have largely served their purpose; are becoming obsolete

    22.8%
  3. have largely become greedy and detrimental to their original purpose

    72.2%
  4. must keep fighting!

    22.8%
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  1. JBeukema
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    Unions:
    A) are evil communists who hate America

    B) have largely served their purpose; are becoming obsolete

    C) have largely become greedy and detrimental to their original purpose

    D) must keep fighting!
     
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    C

    They used to be good but when they became their own entity they became too greedy.
    Organized labor is a good thing in certain areas. But the leaders should be workers and not a seperate group.
     
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    I vote C.
    With the formation of more fair labor laws and practices, Unions serve to pad the pockets of their officers more than they do to help the members or the job force.
     
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    Bingo.

    They are, for the most part, simply separate arbitration companies now.

    And companies need customers. Therefore they will use means at their disposal to pressure workers to join unions.
     
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    I voted obsolete.
    The globalization path has been firmly cemented and it dictates that they go the way of the dinosaurs.
     
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    There's a lot of truth to both B and C, as far as the organized modern union goes. But the concept of organization of labor in general will never be obsolete. Laws can be repealed, gains can be lost, there will always need to be some mechanism for workers to stand up for themselves.

    The problem with the modern organized union is too many times it's just a different elite "standing up" on their behalf instead, and not necessarily working in anyone's interests but their own.
     
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    And what makes you think that the leaders do not come from the rank of the workers?
     
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    Union workers are out to get everything they can get. As a result, union shops make the prices of what they produce go up. Also, the attitude of the union workers that I know suck. They are pretty demanding and will tell you what they won't do but seldom, if ever, do you hear one say what he will do. They are only interested in protecting their job so their sub-par performance will not get them fired. I think all unions should be outlawed.
     
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    How did you arrive at that conclusion, considering the labor leaders negotiate Union wages and benefits for their workers and then serve a multitude of other functions during the year, from negotiating contracts with employers to dispatching Union members to job sites, overseeing their rights, etc.? Even after an Union member retires, they are there for their pensions and other benefits throughout their entire lives.
     
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    I don't see where "pressure" enters the picture. Once workers understand the benefits of being a Union member, they join. If it was pressure you would see Union mmbers with strike & unfair labor practices signs in front of every business in America. So I feel you are being illogical as to what Unions actually do. In most cases Unions are invited into businesses due to unfair business practices being used against employees. Pressure must be standing up against corporations that are violating labor, safety, and other laws against workers.
     
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