Unemployment

[old navy]

I would like to see incumbents, regardless of party, make decisions based on sound economic principles. It's always about getting re-elected, and that is costing us a fortune.

 

[StevenC]

National Unemployment Rate Chart

Note the date it climed to the top of the chart.

Right when the dems had total control of the House, Senate and Presidency. Thanks for pointing out that the dems are te ones that screwed this country over.

How did the dems in just the house cause all of the subprime loans written BEFORE they took office?

Subprime loans are responsible for high unemployement?
And remember that the repubs never had a filibuster proof senate.

 

[mascale]

Proof That Stimulus Was Only Preservative--Lacking Of Initiative--AKA Ivy League

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One Third of the Stimulus went to support the state and local government employees, and teachers who caused it all. No Public Works initiatives were created in that spending.

One Third of the Stimulus went to tax relief, to make up for lost spending from the downturn. No Public Works initiatives were created in those non-spending events.

One Third of the Stimulus went to small scale projects mostly known to contractors familiar with FedBizOpps. That kind of spending takes time and is uneven. It started to kick in only just before the mid-term elections.

Putting the roofs on the crappers in the park at Mammoth Lakes resort in California did get prioritized, in that spending.

And so there it was: The Stimulus!

Now The GOP claims that the "Wasteful Spending" needs to be cut.

It is already gone.

Cutting Spending further makes as much sense as Old, Fat, White People--Cavorting About Naked On Other Peoples Yachts, dumping substance and other treasure into the sea.

The Tea Party GOP makes sense like that!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many young braves find wild ponies--clothed like them(?)!)
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"What Spending Was Cut?" Asks StevenC poster.

The money in the current deficit has already been committed. It is in a budget at the federal level that gets spent. The TeaParty GOP plans to take any future spending away from all Americans.

There is no tax relief in cutting spending. Bases get closed. Parks get closed. Agencies get closed. Contracting Stops. Subsidies stop.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken Not Stirred!"
(Many Nations Do Whie Eyes Math! Seven Does Come After Eleven!)

 

[Wry Catcher]

Is this what you meant by Divine Providence?

What I mean is when we work to live rightly, God will take care of the rest. All things will come together for our own good.

How do we know when we are working to live rightly? I don't mean to question your faith, but isn't a follower of Islam who has been taught it is right to kill the infidel living rightly?

 

[Avorysuds]

I suspect WT is spot on. She and plus or minus 20% of the American people, mostly all of the GOP leadership and NewsCorp, hoped President Obama failed before he had taken the oath of office. They have done everything possible to prevent a recovery and have thus far succeeded.

Adopting an ends and means strategy the right wing has engaged in a most shameful form of demagougery, obstructing every effort by the Obama Administration to seek solutions to the myraid of problems inherited by the new adminsitration in January 2009. A house divided cannot stand, and if our nation suffers from a financial collapes the right wing will have achieved the goal of Grover Norquist, the GOP and their fellow travelers, the T Party.

At what cost? Potentially the loss of an American middle class and a social structure much different then what most Americans have come to expect.

Name ONE thing the "right" has done to screw “Obama’s” recovery you fucking waste of life.

Go on now, name it, and show where Obama was stopped you fucking dumb ass Obama cock loving failure. Tell us all here what Obama *needed* but didn’t get because of the GOP leadership.

I guess Bush failed because the left or *dur* I'll just say 20% of the left and all of its leadership was out to make Bush fail from the start! Yeah that's it... Bush failed because of the left.

At least now, today, which was of course not the case you were making yesterday, you admit that Obama has failed... But of course you were claiming Obama was a success just moments ago and I assure you will again despite your claims that Obama has failed....

Get over yourself.

 

[WillowTree]

Is this what you meant by Divine Providence?

What I mean is when we work to live rightly, God will take care of the rest. All things will come together for our own good.

How do we know when we are working to live rightly? I don't mean to question your faith, but isn't a follower of Islam who has been taught it is right to kill the infidel living rightly?

Where's the list big mouth? I'm waiting for the list.

 

[Avorysuds]

Ok, I'm going to say this.

Guys, this shit sucks. Past the Obama or Bush bullshit I'm 30 fucking years old, got my first house and finally have stuff to look forward too and BAM, we hit a recession that is in fact more like a depression for 3-4 years now.

I'd really like these noobie fuckers to get their shit together and stop fucking the country. I'd like to be focused on making my life bad fucking ass rather than some rich fuckers in congress or the WH playing games with everyone’s lives.


UE at 9.1 and it's really more like 15-20% and rising. The economy is fucked and getting worse. Will these fucking low lives please wake up and get off the campaign trail and start doing their fucking job please. If I ever failed at my work as bad as these shit for brain fucktards I'd never get hired again (work for myself).

Two words: VOTE REPUBLICAN

I vote Ron Paul.

 

[Avorysuds]

Now tell me how Obama is at fault for this economic mess.

the most you can blame him for is not cleaning it up fast enough for you.

So our choices this next election is for a guy who is cleaning it up slowly or the guys whos policy created the mess in the first place.


Pretty easy choice even if you think Obama is not fast enough

Just give up, the only people that believes your lies are people that make the shit up as they go like you do... Notice how few of your kind are left on the boards? Nice video of Bush btw, wasn’t he president 3 years ago or something?


Mad because Obama didn't clean up the mess fast enough, lol... The mess is bigger under him than under Bush and that's a FACT.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I want to see the list of the things that I, 20% of Americans like myself, and Republicans have suceeded in doing that slowed economic recovery. I'll wait.

I don't have a list off the top of my head, but, one thing is true. The Republicans have not given President Obama everything he wanted and since you and I both know that he is the answer to all of our problems, that has to have something to do with it.

Immie

Wry Catcher has a list, I want her to produce it. It's her statement. let her back her shit up.

WT, you want a list. Let's start with you, Rush Limbaugh and NewsCorp. Even before President Obama took the oath of office he was unfairly and inappropriately chararacterized as far left, attacked because of the words of a preacher, framed as complcit in a fraud (ACORN), attacked for being inexperienced, slimed as illegitimate & wrongly accused of being born outside of the US; suggestions were offered he was not smart enough to acutally earn his way into the University or law school and must have benefited from affirmative action; scorned for being awarded the Peace Prize, cirticized for bowing and apologizing to foreign leaders, attacked as a Marxist, Socialist, Communist, supporter of Black Panthers, criticized for not solving an economic crisis in the first few months of his adminsitration, a crisis which existed well before he took the oath of office. He and his office were generally disrespected by you and other RWers. You signature line says it all.

There is nothing patriotic about hoping a president fails. If you disagree with his ideas, policies and actions make an argument why and offer an alternative. You and the aforementioned as well as the rest of the echo chamber offer mostly appeals to emotions. Fear (He's a Marxist, Muslim, he hates America and Americans) has been the tool of you and others to prevent needed reforms; Hate (evil IslamoFascists, Illegal Mexicans, Homosexual agendas, Dirty hippie progressives and Commies are all vilified in your rhetoric and in your imagination).

Want more? Let's speak to the Republican Agenda since taking over the House of Representives. What have they done to create employment? Very little would be an exaggeration. In the Senate lockstep voting Republicans use and have used the rules to prevent reforms, unwilling to actually debate, the R leadership in both houses spends more time at press conferences damning Obama and the Democrats then in anyother endeavor. What has Boehner, Cantor or McConnell done to earn their salary? Not a damn thing. What have they done to stimulate the economy? Not a damn thing. The only idea that have is to cut benefits to the working men and women of American and cut the taxes of the wealthiest Americans.

 

[mascale]

The Obama Ivy League Liberal Stimulus relied so much on, "The Reagan Trajectory," that especially the Party of Abraham Lincoln--accustomed to taking everything away, and leaving behind nothing to replace it--even opposed that(?)!

The Famous Obama Inspiration, from some delusional concept of a "Reagan Trajectory," was an "Entrepreneurial Spirt," and fueled by a giant and atrocious federal deficit.

The Ivy League does not do "Perspiration," and so no public works were provided in the Obama Ivy League Liberal Stimulus. A giant federal deficit was apparently envisioned, then to be fueled by an "Entrepreneurial Spirit!"

The Old Fat White People, Cavorting About Naked On Other People's Yachts--Dumping Substance and Other Treasure Into the Sea: Are not about perspiration. either.

They are the Party of Abraham Lincoln, and will take all the paying customers away. The Start was to take away Schedule M from the Innteral Revenue Code.

GOP Roundly Said, "No More Tax Cuts!" The Party of Abraham Lincoln took them away.

GOP Roundly Said, "No More Spending!" That is their Mantra for 2012! "No More Spending" by anybody, anywhere: Is what the Party of Abraham Lincoln, is all about!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Not Since White Eyes, "Wild Boy," Cheney Told VFW about the solid proof of Weapons of Mass Destruction, found in the henhouse, somewhere in Iraq: Has so much appropriate substance been discussed!)

 

[LibocalypseNow]

It's even more depressing once you realize their numbers are all bogus. 9.1% is really more like 15-20%. This Administration is known for fudging the numbers. Things are much worse than they're telling the American People. The skyrocketing Food & Gas Prices are especially alarming. Inflation is already here,yet they keep denying it. Just check out the prices in your Grocery Store and you'll quickly see how bad things are getting. This Administration clearly lies when it comes to the Economy. Unfortunately things are only going to get worse. But hey,it's "Hope & Change" right?

 

[WillowTree]

I don't have a list off the top of my head, but, one thing is true. The Republicans have not given President Obama everything he wanted and since you and I both know that he is the answer to all of our problems, that has to have something to do with it.

Immie

Wry Catcher has a list, I want her to produce it. It's her statement. let her back her shit up.

WT, you want a list. Let's start with you, Rush Limbaugh and NewsCorp. Even before President Obama took the oath of office he was unfairly and inappropriately chararacterized as far left, attacked because of the words of a preacher, framed as complcit in a fraud (ACORN), attacked for being inexperienced, slimed as illegitimate & wrongly accused of being born outside of the US; suggestions were offered he was not smart enough to acutally earn his way into the University or law school and must have benefited from affirmative action; scorned for being awarded the Peace Prize, cirticized for bowing and apologizing to foreign leaders, attacked as a Marxist, Socialist, Communist, supporter of Black Panthers, criticized for not solving an economic crisis in the first few months of his adminsitration, a crisis which existed well before he took the oath of office. He and his office were generally disrespected by you and other RWers. You signature line says it all.

There is nothing patriotic about hoping a president fails. If you disagree with his ideas, policies and actions make an argument why and offer an alternative. You and the aforementioned as well as the rest of the echo chamber offer mostly appeals to emotions. Fear (He's a Marxist, Muslim, he hates America and Americans) has been the tool of you and others to prevent needed reforms; Hate (evil IslamoFascists, Illegal Mexicans, Homosexual agendas, Dirty hippie progressives and Commies are all vilified in your rhetoric and in your imagination).

Want more? Let's speak to the Republican Agenda since taking over the House of Representives. What have they done to create employment? Very little would be an exaggeration. In the Senate lockstep voting Republicans use and have used the rules to prevent reforms, unwilling to actually debate, the R leadership in both houses spends more time at press conferences damning Obama and the Democrats then in anyother endeavor. What has Boehner, Cantor or McConnell done to earn their salary? Not a damn thing. What have they done to stimulate the economy? Not a damn thing. The only idea that have is to cut benefits to the working men and women of American and cut the taxes of the wealthiest Americans.

well you've said a mouth full hon but none of it explains how I, or 20% of the Americans or the Republicans have interfered with the economic recovery.. I'm still waiting.

 

[pinqy]

It's even more depressing once you realize their numbers are all bogus. 9.1% is really more like 15-20%.

I'm sorry, you're claiming that 15-20% of people working or actively trying to work are not succeeding? Where are you getting those numbers from?

This Administration is known for fudging the numbers.

Cites?

The skyrocketing Food & Gas Prices are especially alarming. Inflation is already here,yet they keep denying it.

Really? Here's the latest CPI: CPI detailed report Please point out the part that denies inflation. You'll find strong inflation throughout the report.

 

[Avorysuds]

I don't have a list off the top of my head, but, one thing is true. The Republicans have not given President Obama everything he wanted and since you and I both know that he is the answer to all of our problems, that has to have something to do with it.

Immie

Wry Catcher has a list, I want her to produce it. It's her statement. let her back her shit up.

WT, you want a list. Let's start with you, Rush Limbaugh and NewsCorp. Even before President Obama took the oath of office he was unfairly and inappropriately chararacterized as far left, attacked because of the words of a preacher, framed as complcit in a fraud (ACORN), attacked for being inexperienced, slimed as illegitimate & wrongly accused of being born outside of the US; suggestions were offered he was not smart enough to acutally earn his way into the University or law school and must have benefited from affirmative action; scorned for being awarded the Peace Prize, cirticized for bowing and apologizing to foreign leaders, attacked as a Marxist, Socialist, Communist, supporter of Black Panthers, criticized for not solving an economic crisis in the first few months of his adminsitration, a crisis which existed well before he took the oath of office. He and his office were generally disrespected by you and other RWers. You signature line says it all.

There is nothing patriotic about hoping a president fails. If you disagree with his ideas, policies and actions make an argument why and offer an alternative. You and the aforementioned as well as the rest of the echo chamber offer mostly appeals to emotions. Fear (He's a Marxist, Muslim, he hates America and Americans) has been the tool of you and others to prevent needed reforms; Hate (evil IslamoFascists, Illegal Mexicans, Homosexual agendas, Dirty hippie progressives and Commies are all vilified in your rhetoric and in your imagination).

Want more? Let's speak to the Republican Agenda since taking over the House of Representives. What have they done to create employment? Very little would be an exaggeration. In the Senate lockstep voting Republicans use and have used the rules to prevent reforms, unwilling to actually debate, the R leadership in both houses spends more time at press conferences damning Obama and the Democrats then in anyother endeavor. What has Boehner, Cantor or McConnell done to earn their salary? Not a damn thing. What have they done to stimulate the economy? Not a damn thing. The only idea that have is to cut benefits to the working men and women of American and cut the taxes of the wealthiest Americans.

Soooo talking heads and lock step voting.... So no list, nice. Where are the policies that Obama wanted done to "save America" being stopped by Republicans. Put up or shut the fuck up.

Obama has got every single policies that he wanted, maybe he had to SLIGHTLY fight for them, but they were as far as I know never at any point actually stopped.

BTW, are you saying that Bush was not harassed and made out to be a big oil Neocon by the left who hoped every day that he would fail even more than they had hoped for him to fail the day before? Now I’m not saying 2 wrongs make a right, I’m saying Bush was the best president in America’s history! But the left fucked him by talking shit…. Do you see how retarded you sound now?

 

[Avorysuds]

It's even more depressing once you realize their numbers are all bogus. 9.1% is really more like 15-20%.

I'm sorry, you're claiming that 15-20% of people working or actively trying to work are not succeeding? Where are you getting those numbers from?

This Administration is known for fudging the numbers. [/qutoe]Cites?

The skyrocketing Food & Gas Prices are especially alarming. Inflation is already here,yet they keep denying it.

Really? Here's the latest CPI: CPI detailed report Please point out the part that denies inflation. You'll find strong inflation throughout the report.

It's pretty well known that UE is 15+ %...

 

[WillowTree]

It's even more depressing once you realize their numbers are all bogus. 9.1% is really more like 15-20%.

I'm sorry, you're claiming that 15-20% of people working or actively trying to work are not succeeding? Where are you getting those numbers from?

This Administration is known for fudging the numbers. [/qutoe]Cites?

The skyrocketing Food & Gas Prices are especially alarming. Inflation is already here,yet they keep denying it.

Really? Here's the latest CPI: CPI detailed report Please point out the part that denies inflation. You'll find strong inflation throughout the report.

Hey ding dong. did you hear obie doodles speech today? The words bad economy never crossed his lips.. he's in denial.

 

[xsited1]

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The skyrocketing Food & Gas Prices are especially alarming. Inflation is already here,yet they keep denying it.

Really? Here's the latest CPI: CPI detailed report Please point out the part that denies inflation. You'll find strong inflation throughout the report.

Inflation? I think he might be talking about this:

"We're not seeing a broad-based inflation trend," Obama said at the first meeting of his Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

Businesses shouldn't worry about inflation: Obama - MarketWatch

 

[pinqy]

It's pretty well known that UE is 15+ %...

Only if you change the definition and add some people who actually are working as "unemployed."

 

[Immanuel]

It's even more depressing once you realize their numbers are all bogus. 9.1% is really more like 15-20%.

I'm sorry, you're claiming that 15-20% of people working or actively trying to work are not succeeding? Where are you getting those numbers from?

This Administration is known for fudging the numbers.

Cites?

The skyrocketing Food & Gas Prices are especially alarming. Inflation is already here,yet they keep denying it.

Really? Here's the latest CPI: CPI detailed report Please point out the part that denies inflation. You'll find strong inflation throughout the report.

First: thanks for fixing that quote.

I'm not going to claim that this administration is known for fudging the numbers. This Admin is no more "known" for such things than any other admin, but why should I trust the government in their claims? I mean if they get their data from household surveys (which you proved to me was the case several months ago), and this information is unverifiable, why should I believe it is only 9.1% when every where I look businesses are literally disappearing before my very eyes and one must assume that with those businesses go the jobs they provided?

Immie

 

[pinqy]

Inflation? I think he might be talking about this:

"We're not seeing a broad-based inflation trend," Obama said at the first meeting of his Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

Businesses shouldn't worry about inflation: Obama - MarketWatch

Ah, see, I figured LibocalypseNow was referring to the actual data, not the political spin.