Under the United States Constitution,

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    Under the United States Constitution, Do Individual Citizens
    have the Right NOT to purchase a Product or Service?



    * The United States Congress lacks the political will to be honest with Americans by taxing citizens directly to pay for Obama Care; but because direct taxation would have been unpopular, such a method for paying for Health Care Reform would have made said Reform un-passable. Thus, requiring citizens to buy health insurance is actually a form of taxation through the back door. [#12]

    * Before passing the Universal Health Care Bill, the Senate questioned whether they had constitutional authority to require all citizens to buy Health Insurance. For this reason, in 2009 the Senate Finance Committee asked the Congressional Research Service to render an opinion about the constitutionality of the mandate — can the Fed force citizens to buy a good or service? The Senate Research Service concluded: "Whether such a requirement would be constitutional under the Commerce Clause is perhaps the most challenging question posed by such a proposal, as it is a novel issue whether Congress may use this Clause to require an individual to purchase a good or a service." In other words, this issue is uniquely "new" and has never been addressed by the Supreme Court. [#15]
    Does Federal Government have Authority to Force Citizens to Buy Health Insurance under Penalty of Law?
     
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    Leave it to liberals to find "new" ways to tax people. Its their specialty.

    And of course its unconsitutional, but has that stopped them before?
     
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    Then Obolshevikcare is unconstitutional under Article 1, Section 8.

    It's the job of the HoR, not the Senate, to originate taxing bills.
     
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    By golly you're right.

    And there is nothing in the constitution about having the government purchasing military equipment from private firms..either!

    Or requiring doctors have licenses!
    Or requiring pilots have licenses!
    Or authorizing an Air Force!
    Or paying for nuclear silos!
    Or funding bases outside of our borders!
    Or marriage!
    Or the CIA!
    Or the FBI!
    Or guns!


    Holy crap..how deep does this rabbit hole go!!!
     
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    Actually conservatives wanted to pay tribute to pirates..but damn it..those liberals stopped them and bought Ships to protect our trade routes anyway.

    The scoundrels!
     
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    Apparently not very deep into your lightweight mind.

    My comment pointed out what is there, in plain English, not what isn't....Maybe the "plain English" part is what tripped you up.
     
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    it's not a rabbit hole; it's your ass

    that's your duodenum right up ahead...
     
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    The Constitution imposes an obligation on the federal government to guard the country. It is one of the few obligations the government has. Under the necessary and proper clause, we can have a army, navy, airforce and buy weapons.

    There is no federal requirement for a doctor to have a license so I don't know where you get that from. If someone wants to practice medicine they have to pass their state boards, there are no federal boards.

    How did we get people educated in this country that are so unknowledgable about their own nation?
     
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    It's because Shallow is more interested in trying to political points with his inane sophistry, than make any kind of cogent and relevant observation.

    You get used to it.
     
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    so the general welfare and commerce clauses were just tossed in there because they sounded good?

    i don't know, maybe by listening to people like ron paul and rush limbaugh?
     

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