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I call bullshit on #1 and #21) its "incredibly" stupid, stupid!!
2) his point is well taken. Think of the USSR. When the government runs an industry rather than the laws of supply and demand you have huge waiting lines and shortages. This is our future with Barry the socialist in charge
Except for the teensy weensie problem in the S and D theory ...that there is no supply problem. We have plenty of hospitals and clinics and lots of doctors and nurses. People are not being turned away now...what makes any of you think that all of a sudden people will be turned away as we absorb Obamacare?
Fear monger much?
1) 85% of MD's say they are thinking of leaving the profession
2) fewer will go into the profession as the baby boom retires because Barry care will drastically cut their wages and dictate what they do.
3) Barry just put 35 million on Medicaid
4) all 45 million without insurance will soon have it!!!
See why we are 100% certain a liberal will be slow, oh so very very slow!!!
I call bullshit on #1 and #2Except for the teensy weensie problem in the S and D theory ...that there is no supply problem. We have plenty of hospitals and clinics and lots of doctors and nurses. People are not being turned away now...what makes any of you think that all of a sudden people will be turned away as we absorb Obamacare?
Fear monger much?
1) 85% of MD's say they are thinking of leaving the profession
2) fewer will go into the profession as the baby boom retires because Barry care will drastically cut their wages and dictate what they do.
3) Barry just put 35 million on Medicaid
4) all 45 million without insurance will soon have it!!!
See why we are 100% certain a liberal will be slow, oh so very very slow!!!
Although I agree we are short on doctors, I disagree with the nonsense claim it's because of Obama. We've had a doctor shortage that has been getting worse for awhile now, however I don't think the solution is to limit medical care to those who can afford it.
I call bullshit on #1 and #21) 85% of MD's say they are thinking of leaving the profession
2) fewer will go into the profession as the baby boom retires because Barry care will drastically cut their wages and dictate what they do.
3) Barry just put 35 million on Medicaid
4) all 45 million without insurance will soon have it!!!
See why we are 100% certain a liberal will be slow, oh so very very slow!!!
Although I agree we are short on doctors, I disagree with the nonsense claim it's because of Obama. We've had a doctor shortage that has been getting worse for awhile now, however I don't think the solution is to limit medical care to those who can afford it.
It takes at least four years to make a doctor.
Do the math.
I am a geriatric nurse and social worker of over 20 years in Ohio. I have already seen the disaster taking place from this bill.The hospitals are already getting set for October 1st. I had a patient this week who was refused care because he was hospitalized the previous week. His family even took their attorney to the hospital with them to try and get him cared for--but the hospital still sent him home. We took him the next day to another hospital. They admitted him and found he had suffered a stroke. Believe me, the hospitals are not going to be the main ones to suffer over this bill-- it will be sick people that will suffer! How may of you have actually read this bill? I have read it and there are many problems!! Oh and by the way, I am a Democrat and have been since I registered years ago but the people I care for come before politics!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Be advised that Obama supporters who know absolutely nothing about the healthcare industry will say you're lying.I am a geriatric nurse and social worker of over 20 years in Ohio. I have already seen the disaster taking place from this bill.The hospitals are already getting set for October 1st. I had a patient this week who was refused care because he was hospitalized the previous week. His family even took their attorney to the hospital with them to try and get him cared for--but the hospital still sent him home. We took him the next day to another hospital. They admitted him and found he had suffered a stroke. Believe me, the hospitals are not going to be the main ones to suffer over this bill-- it will be sick people that will suffer! How may of you have actually read this bill? I have read it and there are many problems!! Oh and by the way, I am a Democrat and have been since I registered years ago but the people I care for come before politics!
I feel there's some other laws that apply here and I feel that the hospital's want billable patients regardless who, let collections run its course by the way collections is a pretty good activity they get to review the patients information not medical and buy the debt and we all know that it doesn't really cost $25,000 to set a broken arm generally speakingUnder provisions of obamacare, if you get discharged from the hospital and have a complication, you won't get seen in an emergency room.
More than 2,200 hospitals face penalties under ObamaCare rules | Fox News
A provision of ObamaCare is set to punish roughly two-thirds of U.S. hospitals starting this fall over high readmission rates, according to an analysis by Kaiser Health News.
Starting in October, Medicare will reduce reimbursements to hospitals with high 30-day readmission rates -- which refers to patients who return within a month -- by as much as 1 percent. The maximum penalty increases to 2 percent the following year and 3 percent in 2014.
Doctors are concerned the penalty is unfair, since sometimes they have to accept patients more than once in a brief period of time but could be penalized for doing so -- even for accepting seniors who are sick.
"Among patients with heart failure, hospitals that have higher readmission rates actually have lower mortality rates," said Sunil Kripalani, MD, a professor with Vanderbilt University Medical Center who studies hospital readmissions. "So, which would we rather have -- a hospital readmission or a death?"
obama's answer, he'd rather have a death.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Be advised that Obama supporters who know absolutely nothing about the healthcare industry will say you're lying.I am a geriatric nurse and social worker of over 20 years in Ohio. I have already seen the disaster taking place from this bill.The hospitals are already getting set for October 1st. I had a patient this week who was refused care because he was hospitalized the previous week. His family even took their attorney to the hospital with them to try and get him cared for--but the hospital still sent him home. We took him the next day to another hospital. They admitted him and found he had suffered a stroke. Believe me, the hospitals are not going to be the main ones to suffer over this bill-- it will be sick people that will suffer! How may of you have actually read this bill? I have read it and there are many problems!! Oh and by the way, I am a Democrat and have been since I registered years ago but the people I care for come before politics!
I am a geriatric nurse and social worker of over 20 years in Ohio. I have already seen the disaster taking place from this bill.The hospitals are already getting set for October 1st. I had a patient this week who was refused care because he was hospitalized the previous week. His family even took their attorney to the hospital with them to try and get him cared for--but the hospital still sent him home. We took him the next day to another hospital. They admitted him and found he had suffered a stroke. Believe me, the hospitals are not going to be the main ones to suffer over this bill-- it will be sick people that will suffer! How may of you have actually read this bill? I have read it and there are many problems!! Oh and by the way, I am a Democrat and have been since I registered years ago but the people I care for come before politics!
hmmm, this is not for ER visits....the article DID NOT say that....this is for medicare....
and no way would the hospital turn away a readmission of a patient that was sick...number 1, they would be sued from here to high heaven for malpractice...
This encourages the hospitals to treat the patient properly, the first time they were admitted, not release them too early....the law does not stop them from admitting patients a second or third time, IF this is what the patient needs, PERIOD.
About two weeks ago. My wife's been having breathing issues since late last year, and we can't get a good diagnosis. The pulmonologist who treated her earlier is a dick who won't listen to his patients, and the other ones in town work in the same practice as him and they won't second-guess each other.Thank you for sharing your experiences. Be advised that Obama supporters who know absolutely nothing about the healthcare industry will say you're lying.I am a geriatric nurse and social worker of over 20 years in Ohio. I have already seen the disaster taking place from this bill.The hospitals are already getting set for October 1st. I had a patient this week who was refused care because he was hospitalized the previous week. His family even took their attorney to the hospital with them to try and get him cared for--but the hospital still sent him home. We took him the next day to another hospital. They admitted him and found he had suffered a stroke. Believe me, the hospitals are not going to be the main ones to suffer over this bill-- it will be sick people that will suffer! How may of you have actually read this bill? I have read it and there are many problems!! Oh and by the way, I am a Democrat and have been since I registered years ago but the people I care for come before politics!
When was the last time you were in an ER?
About two weeks ago. My wife's been having breathing issues since late last year, and we can't get a good diagnosis. The pulmonologist who treated her earlier is a dick who won't listen to his patients, and the other ones in town work in the same practice as him and they won't second-guess each other.Thank you for sharing your experiences. Be advised that Obama supporters who know absolutely nothing about the healthcare industry will say you're lying.
When was the last time you were in an ER?
Meanwhile, I can't help but notice you've utterly disregarded KKLCB's post.
About two weeks ago. My wife's been having breathing issues since late last year, and we can't get a good diagnosis. The pulmonologist who treated her earlier is a dick who won't listen to his patients, and the other ones in town work in the same practice as him and they won't second-guess each other.Thank you for sharing your experiences. Be advised that Obama supporters who know absolutely nothing about the healthcare industry will say you're lying.
When was the last time you were in an ER?
Meanwhile, I can't help but notice you've utterly disregarded KKLCB's post.
About two weeks ago. My wife's been having breathing issues since late last year, and we can't get a good diagnosis. The pulmonologist who treated her earlier is a dick who won't listen to his patients, and the other ones in town work in the same practice as him and they won't second-guess each other.When was the last time you were in an ER?
Meanwhile, I can't help but notice you've utterly disregarded KKLCB's post.
Yes I am totally disregarding her post.
No ER will refuse a patient in need of care. It's agaisnt the law, and opens the hospital up to a lawsuit. Hospitals are required by law to treat you and stabilize you, after that they can transfer you if needed, but they can't say " we've already helped you this month, go somewhere else"
Because the closest other pulmonologist is 2 hours away. And in another zone for my insurance.About two weeks ago. My wife's been having breathing issues since late last year, and we can't get a good diagnosis. The pulmonologist who treated her earlier is a dick who won't listen to his patients, and the other ones in town work in the same practice as him and they won't second-guess each other.When was the last time you were in an ER?
Meanwhile, I can't help but notice you've utterly disregarded KKLCB's post.
You have insurance. Why not go to a different town?
The intern on one visit basically did nothing. He wasn't about to do anything that went against the pulmonologist's diagnosis...which kept changing, and the treatment he prescribed didn't work.BTW, did you get poor care in the ED? Did they refuse to treat your wife?
You'd lose. And the treatments she did get were strictly temporary -- nothing to help the underlying cause...which we STILL don't know what is.I'd wager she got 1 to 2 breathing treatments/duonebs and a blast of steroids, improved, and went home.
Not at all surprising, really.About two weeks ago. My wife's been having breathing issues since late last year, and we can't get a good diagnosis. The pulmonologist who treated her earlier is a dick who won't listen to his patients, and the other ones in town work in the same practice as him and they won't second-guess each other.When was the last time you were in an ER?
Meanwhile, I can't help but notice you've utterly disregarded KKLCB's post.
Yes I am totally disregarding her post.
Ahh, but the law is changing, isn't it?No ER will refuse a patient in need of care. It's agaisnt the law, and opens the hospital up to a lawsuit. Hospitals are required by law to treat you and stabilize you, after that they can transfer you if needed, but they can't say " we've already helped you this month, go somewhere else"
Because the closest other pulmonologist is 2 hours away. And in another zone for my insurance.About two weeks ago. My wife's been having breathing issues since late last year, and we can't get a good diagnosis. The pulmonologist who treated her earlier is a dick who won't listen to his patients, and the other ones in town work in the same practice as him and they won't second-guess each other.
Meanwhile, I can't help but notice you've utterly disregarded KKLCB's post.
You have insurance. Why not go to a different town?
The intern on one visit basically did nothing. He wasn't about to do anything that went against the pulmonologist's diagnosis...which kept changing, and the treatment he prescribed didn't work.BTW, did you get poor care in the ED? Did they refuse to treat your wife?
You'd lose. And the treatments she did get were strictly temporary -- nothing to help the underlying cause...which we STILL don't know what is.I'd wager she got 1 to 2 breathing treatments/duonebs and a blast of steroids, improved, and went home.
