Under Islamic law gay man given 100 lashes with sharp metal wires in Ghana

[irosie91]

The difference between Pam Geller and me is that --- I didn't post a link that disproves my own point.

Well lets see what was said:

1st line of the article:

It is terrifying for gay people to live in a country that is under the sharia or even respectful of sharia law. - See more at:

A predominant Muslim community in Ghana’s capital, Accra – has flogged a man suspected to be gay.

The suspect received about 100 lashes from the vigilante group popularly known as Safety Empire. According to the group, its aim is to wage a crusade against homosexuality.

The man was whipped mercilessly when he allegedly tried to lure another resident into the controversial act.

He was found guilty based on Sharia laws, the group said in a Facebook post.

She does explain that it was a group in the community that did it, not the government. The group did reference Sharia law as their basis for said whipping.

Well then let's look at the headline -- the title, where everything starts:

"Under Islamic law gay man given 100 lashes with sharp metal wires in Ghana"
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Well --- no. Ghana doesn't even have "Islamic law".

But let's not stop there, let's see the very first line:

"It is terrifying for gay people to live in a country that is under the sharia or even respectful of sharia law"
​

It might be. But what's that have to do with Ghana?
Weasel words. Geller can't write without them.

The group based it's actions on Sharia, which is Islamic Law. She didn't say Ghana's law, did she?

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

more to the point----are the perpetrators of the razor wire wielders going to be criminally charged

 

[irosie91]

Well lets see what was said:

1st line of the article:

She does explain that it was a group in the community that did it, not the government. The group did reference Sharia law as their basis for said whipping.

Well then let's look at the headline -- the title, where everything starts:

"Under Islamic law gay man given 100 lashes with sharp metal wires in Ghana"
​

Well --- no. Ghana doesn't even have "Islamic law".

But let's not stop there, let's see the very first line:

"It is terrifying for gay people to live in a country that is under the sharia or even respectful of sharia law"
​

It might be. But what's that have to do with Ghana?
Weasel words. Geller can't write without them.

The group based it's actions on Sharia, which is Islamic Law. She didn't say Ghana's law, did she?

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

Define "Sharia law".

In any case -- both the thread, and the article it's based on, clearly say "under Islamic law" -- not "under Sharia law". Ghana has neither.

shariah law is ISLAMIC LAW ------you did not know that fact?

 

[Pogo]

Well lets see what was said:

1st line of the article:

She does explain that it was a group in the community that did it, not the government. The group did reference Sharia law as their basis for said whipping.

Well then let's look at the headline -- the title, where everything starts:

"Under Islamic law gay man given 100 lashes with sharp metal wires in Ghana"
​

Well --- no. Ghana doesn't even have "Islamic law".

But let's not stop there, let's see the very first line:

"It is terrifying for gay people to live in a country that is under the sharia or even respectful of sharia law"
​

It might be. But what's that have to do with Ghana?
Weasel words. Geller can't write without them.

The group based it's actions on Sharia, which is Islamic Law. She didn't say Ghana's law, did she?

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

more to the point----are the perpetrators of the razor wire wielders going to be criminally charged

We should hope so -- if it even happened. Having no source except "Star FM" and Pam Geller isn't exactly solid ground.

 

[Pogo]

Well then let's look at the headline -- the title, where everything starts:

"Under Islamic law gay man given 100 lashes with sharp metal wires in Ghana"
​

Well --- no. Ghana doesn't even have "Islamic law".

But let's not stop there, let's see the very first line:

"It is terrifying for gay people to live in a country that is under the sharia or even respectful of sharia law"
​

It might be. But what's that have to do with Ghana?
Weasel words. Geller can't write without them.

The group based it's actions on Sharia, which is Islamic Law. She didn't say Ghana's law, did she?

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

Define "Sharia law".

In any case -- both the thread, and the article it's based on, clearly say "under Islamic law" -- not "under Sharia law". Ghana has neither.

shariah law is ISLAMIC LAW ------you did not know that fact?

That's not a definition.
And regardless, the fact remains --- Ghana doesn't operate under either term, regardless what they mean.

 

[irosie91]

Well then let's look at the headline -- the title, where everything starts:

"Under Islamic law gay man given 100 lashes with sharp metal wires in Ghana"
​

Well --- no. Ghana doesn't even have "Islamic law".

But let's not stop there, let's see the very first line:

"It is terrifying for gay people to live in a country that is under the sharia or even respectful of sharia law"
​

It might be. But what's that have to do with Ghana?
Weasel words. Geller can't write without them.

The group based it's actions on Sharia, which is Islamic Law. She didn't say Ghana's law, did she?

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

more to the point----are the perpetrators of the razor wire wielders going to be criminally charged

We should hope so -- if it even happened. Having no source except "Star FM" and Pam Geller isn't exactly solid ground.

Pogo ---you are getting desperate

 

[martybegan]

Well lets see what was said:

1st line of the article:

She does explain that it was a group in the community that did it, not the government. The group did reference Sharia law as their basis for said whipping.

Well then let's look at the headline -- the title, where everything starts:

"Under Islamic law gay man given 100 lashes with sharp metal wires in Ghana"
​

Well --- no. Ghana doesn't even have "Islamic law".

But let's not stop there, let's see the very first line:

"It is terrifying for gay people to live in a country that is under the sharia or even respectful of sharia law"
​

It might be. But what's that have to do with Ghana?
Weasel words. Geller can't write without them.

The group based it's actions on Sharia, which is Islamic Law. She didn't say Ghana's law, did she?

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

Define "Sharia law".

In any case -- both the thread, and the article it's based on, clearly say "under Islamic law" -- not "under Sharia law". Ghana has neither. Therefore whatever transpired wasn't "under" either.

Sharia law = Islamic law, they are one and the same.

Those idiots used it as justification of the attack. Gellar did not say anything about the government endorsing it, or the government following islamic law.

 

[irosie91]

The group based it's actions on Sharia, which is Islamic Law. She didn't say Ghana's law, did she?

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

Define "Sharia law".

In any case -- both the thread, and the article it's based on, clearly say "under Islamic law" -- not "under Sharia law". Ghana has neither.

shariah law is ISLAMIC LAW ------you did not know that fact?

That's not a definition.
And regardless, the fact remains --- Ghana doesn't operate under either term, regardless what they mean.

IT IS THE DEFINITION------Islamic law is the law determined by ISLAMIC KORANIC SCHOLARS as the LAW OF THE KORAN---it is based on that which muhummad is said to have said and by that which he is said to have DONE_--------that dog is the paragon of
RIGHT AND WRONG-----which is why the murder of a non muslim cannot b a capital crime in ISLAMIC, AKA SHARIAH aka KORANIC law------muhummad murdered non muslims with happy abandon

 

[Pogo]

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

Define "Sharia law".

In any case -- both the thread, and the article it's based on, clearly say "under Islamic law" -- not "under Sharia law". Ghana has neither.

shariah law is ISLAMIC LAW ------you did not know that fact?

That's not a definition.
And regardless, the fact remains --- Ghana doesn't operate under either term, regardless what they mean.

IT IS THE DEFINITION------Islamic law is the law determined by ISLAMIC KORANIC SCHOLARS as the LAW OF THE KORAN---it is based on that which muhummad is said to have said and by that which he is said to have DONE_--------that dog is the paragon of
RIGHT AND WRONG-----which is why the murder of a non muslim cannot b a capital crime in ISLAMIC, AKA SHARIAH aka KORANIC law------muhummad murdered non muslims with happy abandon

Well then your point fails, because the Quran doesn't proscribe homosexuality.
And we just did this several posts ago.

 

[Pogo]

Well then let's look at the headline -- the title, where everything starts:

"Under Islamic law gay man given 100 lashes with sharp metal wires in Ghana"
​

Well --- no. Ghana doesn't even have "Islamic law".

But let's not stop there, let's see the very first line:

"It is terrifying for gay people to live in a country that is under the sharia or even respectful of sharia law"
​

It might be. But what's that have to do with Ghana?
Weasel words. Geller can't write without them.

The group based it's actions on Sharia, which is Islamic Law. She didn't say Ghana's law, did she?

A vigilante group doesn't get to dictate what the country's laws are. Ghana Does. Not. Have. Sharia. Law.
You could look it up.

Did the group that performed the action base their actions on Sharia law?

Define "Sharia law".

In any case -- both the thread, and the article it's based on, clearly say "under Islamic law" -- not "under Sharia law". Ghana has neither. Therefore whatever transpired wasn't "under" either.

Sharia law = Islamic law, they are one and the same.

Those idiots used it as justification of the attack. Gellar did not say anything about the government endorsing it, or the government following islamic law.

Who makes "laws"? Governments? Or vigilante groups?

If the KKK lynches a black guy and claims to have done it under "Christian principles", does that make Christianity the actor?

I keep posing that comparison -- y'all keep running away from it.

Try it this way:
Son of Sam claimed to have been getting his killing orders from dogs. Shall we then blame dogs for his murders?

 

[Syriusly]

Fair point, include them too. It applies to all three entities.

I don't lump together people spouting opinions, and people who whip other people with metal wire.

I don't either. But people stirring up the shit with ignorance, hey I'm happy to help lumping them in too. The only difference is Pam Geller and the OP aren't using wire.

The guy was whipped, Islam was the reason given by the very people doing the whipping.

You can claim any reason you want for doing something, ESPECIALLY with religion. That's nothing new. It's been used to justify homocide, wars, slavery, burning people at the stake and other tortures, all sorts of conquest. That's always the danger of Big Religion. But when you look inside the religion, their base of justification does not exist. Therefore it's dishonest to claim that it does. Hope that makes it clearer.

and your last statement is just stupid.

Is Pam Geller using wire then? Is the OP? Doesn't show up on my screen.
Your statement that "these morons think it is the law, they use Islam as the excuse, regardless of what cultural backing it originally came from" is perfectly valid. It applies to the vigilante group; it applies to Pam Geller; and it applies to the OP. It works all three ways.

A lot of semantics just to get your Gellar Hate on.

These guys whipped a gay man, they used islam as a reason, others are doing similar things in other countries often with government approval , yet you apologists bend over backwards to give Islam a pass.

Are you really that afraid of them?

Why are you so willing to embrace the lies of Geller and the OP- just to further your attacks on Islam?

 

[longknife]

More Islamic tolerance. Coming soon to the USA – if Obama has his way.

So- are you for it- or against it?

And what makes you imagine that President Obama wants this in the United States?

And what makes you so terrified that the United States Constitution is not sufficient to protect Americans rights?

Or are you terrified by the possibility of Ghana invading the United States?

Barrack Hussein Obama was raised in a Muslim school before coming back to the USA. Once a Muslim, quitting the religion is punishable by death. Where is the fatwa demanding this?

It is clear that Obama is giving special treatment by allowing tens of thousands of Muslims into this country in the name of sanctuary. I firmly believe he is carrying out his promise to "fundamentally change America". He want to turn us into the same kind of shit hole as is the entire Middle East and every other place that buys into this 7th century cult that stamps out all freedoms.

 

[Pogo]

More Islamic tolerance. Coming soon to the USA – if Obama has his way.

So- are you for it- or against it?

And what makes you imagine that President Obama wants this in the United States?

And what makes you so terrified that the United States Constitution is not sufficient to protect Americans rights?

Or are you terrified by the possibility of Ghana invading the United States?

Barrack Hussein Obama was raised in a Muslim school before coming back to the USA. Once a Muslim, quitting the religion is punishable by death. Where is the fatwa demanding this?

It is clear that Obama is giving special treatment by allowing tens of thousands of Muslims into this country in the name of sanctuary.

Where do you get the idea this country discriminates its immigrants on the basis of religion?

I firmly believe he is carrying out his promise to "fundamentally change America". He want to turn us into the same kind of shit hole as is the entire Middle East and every other place that buys into this 7th century cult that stamps out all freedoms.

Unhinged fantasies aside, in what way does any of this address the bullshit story about Ghana having "Islamic law"?

 

[longknife]

More Islamic tolerance. Coming soon to the USA – if Obama has his way.

So- are you for it- or against it?

And what makes you imagine that President Obama wants this in the United States?

And what makes you so terrified that the United States Constitution is not sufficient to protect Americans rights?

Or are you terrified by the possibility of Ghana invading the United States?

Barrack Hussein Obama was raised in a Muslim school before coming back to the USA. Once a Muslim, quitting the religion is punishable by death. Where is the fatwa demanding this?

It is clear that Obama is giving special treatment by allowing tens of thousands of Muslims into this country in the name of sanctuary.

Where do you get the idea this country discriminates its immigrants on the basis of religion?

I firmly believe he is carrying out his promise to "fundamentally change America". He want to turn us into the same kind of shit hole as is the entire Middle East and every other place that buys into this 7th century cult that stamps out all freedoms.

Unhinged fantasies aside, in what way does any of this address the bullshit story about Ghana having "Islamic law"?

The article simply states that a group in Ghana acting under Sharia Law tortured a man because he was gay. It said nothing about Ghanan government policy.

As to my concerns about the increasing number of Muslims being allowed into this country, if you cannot see the danger it presents, you will only realize it when members of those communities turn on the rest of us in order to make the USA compliant with what they believe the Koran calls for.

Just as it happening throughout Europe.

 

[Pogo]

The article simply states that a group in Ghana acting under Sharia Law tortured a man because he was gay. It said nothing about Ghanan government policy.

Who makes laws?

I posed that question before. I got crickets. Here's a hint: it ain't some ad hoc vigilante group.

As to my concerns about the increasing number of Muslims being allowed into this country, if you cannot see the danger it presents, you will only realize it when members of those communities turn on the rest of us in order to make the USA compliant with what they believe the Koran calls for.

Just as it happening throughout Europe.

And we did this already. If you had come back to defend your own thread you might have seen it before -- the Koran doesn't "call for" any such thing.

Of course what you said here was "what they believe it calls for". There's nothing anyone can do about ignorance except correct it. Which is why I stopped in here, you're welcome.

Eric Rudolph and Scott Roeder -- and the Matthew Shepard murderers -- and any number of other terrorists/murderers --- act on "what they believe" their religion calls for too. Who let them in?

Contrived fake ideas of what some religion calls for isn't the issue --- ignorance is the issue.