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    This will go nowhere.
     
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    Dan Rather from March 14, 1996 CBS Evening News:

    "In tonight's Eye on America, a look beyond the heat to try to shed some light on a growing national problem: Americans who – some of them – will sue at the drop of a hat."

    What he once reported as a problem is now apparently less so.
     
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    LOL!
     
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    Did he lie? Prove it. In fact, I don't believe he did lie. I think he should have dug a little more, but he didn't lie. Also, I am not convinced that what he said wasn't true either...he just didn't prove it...
     
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    Prove what? that the Letter they used was a fake, a forgery? That their own expert TOLD them before hand it was a fake? Those are common knowledge and are the very reason Dan Rather quit. And that others involved in the hatch job were supposedly fired.

    He even admitted it was a fake and his defense was that " But the story is true"


    Lets review... for 5 years Dan rather and his assistant had tried to make a stroy about Bush. They couldn't do it because they couldn't find any evidence. They contacted a disgruntled former Col in the Texas National Guard, one that had already told lies and tried to pass off forgeries. They recieved a purported letter that proved Bush received special treatment.

    Their document expert TOLD them it was a fake. Further the people supposedly doing the letter had retired the year before and were not in a position to have given any orders anyway. Rather's response? They fired the expert.

    They planned to wait until the night before the elction for their hatch job. But someone found out and planned to leak the story, so they rushed it out and that gave people time to prove to the world that Rather and mapes were liars, that they knew the document they used was a fake and that they were trying to influence a National Election by purposefully airing lies and misinformation and passing it off as fact on a "News" show.

    Were you living under a rock in 2004? Did you miss all this information? They were still talking about it in early 2005 because Mapes didn't really get fired and rather hadn't been punished by CBS either.
     
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    When passing off doctored records, easily verified to be doctored, by a long time media reporter, to me that qualifies as lying. IT was EASILY verified they were not legitimate records.
     
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    They can not even claim they did not know, their own expert TOLD them it was a fake.
     
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    You're both being silly and showing your incredible bias. Lying is willfully passing off something as true that isn't. Your definitions don't even pass the giggle test. He shoulda done more research for sure, and he did/does have an axe to grind, but he wasn't that far from the truth even when he did admit Burkett wasn't on the up-and-up with him. Even Bush's ex commander's secretary said the guts of the information was true. What matters more, the truth or how it is told?



    On September 8, 2004, Rather reported on 60 Minutes Wednesday that a series of documents concerning President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard service record had been discovered in the personal files of Lt. Bush's former commanding officer, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, in which Bush was found unfit for flight status after failing to obey an order to submit to a physical examination. The authenticity of these documents was quickly called into question by both conservative and liberal bloggers; by September 10, stories in media outlets including The Washington Post, The New York Times, and the Chicago Sun-Times examined the documents' authenticity. Rather and CBS vigorously defended the story, insisting that the documents had been authenticated by experts. However, CBS was contradicted by some of the experts it originally cited, and later reported that their source for the documents, former Texas Army National Guard officer Bill Burkett, had misled the network about how he had obtained them. Rather held a one-on-one interview with Killian's personal secretary who vouched for the contents of the documents although she did not authenticate the documents in question themselves, which suggested that the documents were recreations of originals made from poor reproductions or from memory.[3] On September 20, CBS retracted the story. Rather stated, "if I knew then what I know now, I would not have gone ahead with the story as it was aired, and I certainly would not have used the documents in question."[4] The controversy has been referred to by some as "Memogate" and "Rathergate." Following an independent investigation commissioned by CBS, CBS fired story producer Mary Mapes and asked three other producers connected with the story to resign. Rather's retirement was directly hastened by this incident, and many believe that he would otherwise have stepped down in March 2006, 25 years after beginning as anchor.[citation needed] The Burkett documents are popularly believed to be forgeries created by making hazy photocopies of computer-generated documents crafted using Microsoft Word's default font settings, but no one has ever proved them to be so.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather#Killian_documents
     
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