Unbelievable: Huge Islamic Mosque to be Built at "GROUND ZERO"

That is why you, I and all Americans need to get together and defeat the Liberal Political Correctness that is ripping America apart at its foundation backed by Jewish funded extremist. It is tearing the nations traditions, morals, faith and family values from the core of Americans that has sustained this nation together since the founding fathers signed that living document called the Constitution. One strategy is to boycott all Muslim owned businesses like people briefly did after 9-11. It really hurt their pocketbooks.

I thought the deal was that the majority FAITH in the US of A was based on JUDEO-Christian values, MOSAIC (MOSES) Law, and following JESUS, a Jewish fella from Bethlehem...... (Kind of a brown-skinned fella, too...)

As for boycotting anything, first folks gotta know the difference between Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs, and once they get that straight, work on the Shi'ia, Sunni, Sufi differences, as boycotting the wrong people wouldn't be so great....

Irrespective of all that, before you clean up the rest of the country, why aren't you fixing things in Louisiana first.... Don't you think the starting place ought to be "home ground?"
Louisiana is being fixed slowly one step at a time. It takes time after the disasters we have had in the last 4 years. Thanks for your concern.

Great little sidestep to avoid acknowledging from whom and where we derive our "values." Not the singers words at :20 to :35 seconds into the video....

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One quarter of the worlds population is Muslim. Here in the US, the Muslim community is well established, has high employment levels and a crime rate well below other ethnic groups including whites.
To target otherwise law-abiding citizens because a numerically small percentage of them are involved in anti-US activities is against our principles.

Believe it or not, gangs in the US are a much bigger threat to the average American than muslim terrorists yet we pay much more money to fight terrorism than we do to fight gangs

Hey, now, those gangs are useful! Just think, if a person must spend ALL their energy to just get from the bus to the front door and in the house, there is no time nor energy left to worry over what is happening in the larger world. Gangs are self supporting and work for BIG POWER for free, ain't it great!


Saying ALL of anything or any group is only one particular way is usually wrong!

At first I was going to say the only exception would be found on the periodic table, but the other day, on "smarter than a fifth grader" saw that Hydrogen is not always even hydrogen, as H-1 (Hydrogen - nucleus of a single proton) is now Protium... so now I know, there just is (maybe) nothing left to generalize around!
 
So some obviously do not believe in freedom of religion. They only believe in freedom of the christian religion?
How unamerican.
 
One quarter of the worlds population is Muslim. Here in the US, the Muslim community is well established, has high employment levels and a crime rate well below other ethnic groups including whites.
To target otherwise law-abiding citizens because a numerically small percentage of them are involved in anti-US activities is against our principles.
Believe it or not, gangs in the US are a much bigger threat to the average American than muslim terrorists yet we pay much more money to fight terrorism than we do to fight gangs

Your assumptions and statements are simply wrong. We have a right , a responsibility and a duty to protect our citizens and our Country. Muslims as a religion are a KNOWN enemy of this Country, INCLUDING supposedly law abiding members of this Country. The Government has every right to legally investigate and "spy" on mosques and Muslims within the frame work of our laws and Constitution. A failure to do so would be a treasonable act by any Administration.
 
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You think this young man was thinking about where they placed a Mosque, while yes its a good thinig to be sensitive to others and in the case of the Mosque which as I have said I don't know as long as they are sensitive to the place in which they are then fine if not, thats a whole different matter. We need to keep in mind that our nation has many people of many culutres that are just as American and love this nation just as much as anyone else.
 
One quarter of the worlds population is Muslim. Here in the US, the Muslim community is well established, has high employment levels and a crime rate well below other ethnic groups including whites.
To target otherwise law-abiding citizens because a numerically small percentage of them are involved in anti-US activities is against our principles.
Believe it or not, gangs in the US are a much bigger threat to the average American than muslim terrorists yet we pay much more money to fight terrorism than we do to fight gangs

Your assumptions and statements are simply wrong. We have a right , a responsibility and a duty to protect our citizens and our Country. Muslims as a religion are a KNOWN enemy of this Country, INCLUDING supposedly law abiding members of this Country. The Government has every right to legally investigate and "spy" on mosques and Muslims within the frame work of our laws and Constitution. A failure to do so would be a treasonable act by any Administration.

Once again allowing hysteria to create a problem where none exists. Muslims in this country are well educated, law abiding, taxpaying citizens. The racist stereotype that they are all plotting to overthrow the US in the name of Allah only serves to fan biggoted retribution. To "spy" on law abiding people who are practicing their religion is contrary to what this country was founded on.
Like I said before, gangs are a bigger threat to our communities than muslims. Go spy on them
 
One quarter of the worlds population is Muslim. Here in the US, the Muslim community is well established, has high employment levels and a crime rate well below other ethnic groups including whites.
To target otherwise law-abiding citizens because a numerically small percentage of them are involved in anti-US activities is against our principles.
Believe it or not, gangs in the US are a much bigger threat to the average American than muslim terrorists yet we pay much more money to fight terrorism than we do to fight gangs

Your assumptions and statements are simply wrong. We have a right , a responsibility and a duty to protect our citizens and our Country. Muslims as a religion are a KNOWN enemy of this Country, INCLUDING supposedly law abiding members of this Country. The Government has every right to legally investigate and "spy" on mosques and Muslims within the frame work of our laws and Constitution. A failure to do so would be a treasonable act by any Administration.

Once again allowing hysteria to create a problem where none exists. Muslims in this country are well educated, law abiding, taxpaying citizens. The racist stereotype that they are all plotting to overthrow the US in the name of Allah only serves to fan biggoted retribution. To "spy" on law abiding people who are practicing their religion is contrary to what this country was founded on.
Like I said before, gangs are a bigger threat to our communities than muslims. Go spy on them

Look you IDIOT, no one is claiming they are all out to get us, that is your strawman in an attempt to ignore reality. Which is SOME Muslims, INCLUDING American citizens, are actually a threat to this Country. Just as the FBI keeps tabs on white supremacy groups and other groups there is a need, a responsibility , a requirement, that they keep tabs on the Muslims in this Country. Laws and the Constitution allow for it. And I know for a fact our Government is doing it.

Go bury that head of yours in the sand all you want. It won't protect you if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. A failure to operate on the KNOWN threats would be treasonous for any Administration.
 
If Muslims were more forthcoming with information on those who are radical, it would help their image. It seems mosques are a political center much more so than any church I have been a member of. Is that a fair assessment?
 
Your assumptions and statements are simply wrong. We have a right , a responsibility and a duty to protect our citizens and our Country. Muslims as a religion are a KNOWN enemy of this Country, INCLUDING supposedly law abiding members of this Country. The Government has every right to legally investigate and "spy" on mosques and Muslims within the frame work of our laws and Constitution. A failure to do so would be a treasonable act by any Administration.

Once again allowing hysteria to create a problem where none exists. Muslims in this country are well educated, law abiding, taxpaying citizens. The racist stereotype that they are all plotting to overthrow the US in the name of Allah only serves to fan biggoted retribution. To "spy" on law abiding people who are practicing their religion is contrary to what this country was founded on.
Like I said before, gangs are a bigger threat to our communities than muslims. Go spy on them

Look you IDIOT, no one is claiming they are all out to get us, that is your strawman in an attempt to ignore reality. Which is SOME Muslims, INCLUDING American citizens, are actually a threat to this Country. Just as the FBI keeps tabs on white supremacy groups and other groups there is a need, a responsibility , a requirement, that they keep tabs on the Muslims in this Country. Laws and the Constitution allow for it. And I know for a fact our Government is doing it.

Go bury that head of yours in the sand all you want. It won't protect you if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. A failure to operate on the KNOWN threats would be treasonous for any Administration.

I actually agree with you Gunny. If they are a threat they should be monitored along with any right wing, left wing, christian, white supremacist or any threat. The only constraint is that they need to follow the fourth amendment and identify a probable cause before they start harassing law abiding citizens
 
If Muslims were more forthcoming with information on those who are radical, it would help their image. It seems mosques are a political center much more so than any church I have been a member of. Is that a fair assessment?

Same thing with the Christians and the radical anti abortionists that might perform terrorist acts.

Also we actually have christian churches preaching from the pulpit that Obama is the antichrist.
 
Muslim Victims of Terrorist Attack, September 11, 2001

Imagine being the family of Salman Hamdani. The 23-year-old New York City police cadet was a part-time ambulance driver, incoming medical student, and devout Muslim. When he disappeared on September 11, law enforcement officials came to his family, seeking him for questioning in relation to the terrorist attacks. They allegedly believed he was somehow involved. His whereabouts were undetermined for over six months, until his remains were finally identified. He was found near the North Tower, with his EMT medical bag beside him, presumably doing everything he could to help those in need. His family could finally rest, knowing that he died the hero they always knew him to be.
 
Muslim Victims of Terrorist Attack, September 11, 2001

Imagine being the family of Salman Hamdani. The 23-year-old New York City police cadet was a part-time ambulance driver, incoming medical student, and devout Muslim. When he disappeared on September 11, law enforcement officials came to his family, seeking him for questioning in relation to the terrorist attacks. They allegedly believed he was somehow involved. His whereabouts were undetermined for over six months, until his remains were finally identified. He was found near the North Tower, with his EMT medical bag beside him, presumably doing everything he could to help those in need. His family could finally rest, knowing that he died the hero they always knew him to be.
The fact of the matter is that this Mosque and Islamic Culture Center should not be allowed to be built. What other message does the building of this mosque send than Islam has triumphed? The "victor" is building their temple around the ruins of the "conquered".

I urge you to watch this short video on Muslim Demographics and their agenda. Americans need to wake up.
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If Muslims were more forthcoming with information on those who are radical, it would help their image. It seems mosques are a political center much more so than any church I have been a member of. Is that a fair assessment?


Churches tell people who to vote for, excommunicate or refuse communion to those not following a certain line, and so on. The Reverend Jeremiah Wright was "quite" political, and throughout a long history, the Quakers as well as others were anti-slavery, acting often in contravention of local and federal laws, and the churches most African American as well as others on through Civil Rights and Voting Rights, and on and on. Churches, in spite of laws about "non-profits" and restrictions.

I don't know what church you attend, but it sounds a little "dry."

As for the Muslims telling, I recently read somewhere about religious restrictions on any sort of "gossip" or saying things about others that are negative, "backbiting and slander" are considered great sins: Backbiting & Slander - an Islamic perspective so there is a cultural issue with that...

As a matter of real world situations, those Muslims (titular?????) that the fed-gov has dealt with in this way have proven to be more about self interest, and not particularly reliable. Chalabi and Karzai come to mind, and there are others, but the names aren't jumping at me, perhaps someone can add to that...

I hate to think where our own civil rights/human right movements would be if there had been many on the inside targeting "radicals" ....

And yes there are radicals and then there are radicals, but a certain level of "radical" seems also to be fomented, managed and run by gov agents setting shit up....

Non-Muslim, but the recent case of General Vang Pao comes to mind, another FBI set-up G.F.
 
American Muslims have fought and died for the US even in Iraq.

American Muslims DIED in this tragedy.

They make up one fifth of the people on this planet.

They did not all attack us , a few nutbags who happened to be Muslim did.

Do we make war on all Saudis , they were also Saudis.

Do we make war on all men , they were also all men.

Quit being so stupid.
 
The fact of the matter is that this Mosque and Islamic Culture Center should not be allowed to be built. What other message does the building of this mosque send than Islam has triumphed? The "victor" is building their temple around the ruins of the "conquered".

No

As a matter of fact, if we prevented a religion from openly practicing within the United States, we would be sacrificing everything this country was built upon. Don't you remember the Pilgrims and that pesky "freedom of religion" thing?
If we prevented a mosque from being built we would turn into the same monotheistic culture that we are supposedly fighting
 
I cant think of a better response than to show these assholes they are not in the right.

We built a muslim house of whorship right on their evil distruction.

How they hell does that help them recruit to kill us when we show we DONT hate their religion.
 
Muslim Victims of Terrorist Attack, September 11, 2001

Imagine being the family of Salman Hamdani. The 23-year-old New York City police cadet was a part-time ambulance driver, incoming medical student, and devout Muslim. When he disappeared on September 11, law enforcement officials came to his family, seeking him for questioning in relation to the terrorist attacks. They allegedly believed he was somehow involved. His whereabouts were undetermined for over six months, until his remains were finally identified. He was found near the North Tower, with his EMT medical bag beside him, presumably doing everything he could to help those in need. His family could finally rest, knowing that he died the hero they always knew him to be.
The fact of the matter is that this Mosque and Islamic Culture Center should not be allowed to be built. What other message does the building of this mosque send than Islam has triumphed? The "victor" is building their temple around the ruins of the "conquered".

I urge you to watch this short video on Muslim Demographics and their agenda. Americans need to wake up.

Sorry Duke...you are dead wrong on this issue. First of all you CANNOT discriminate against religions. They bought the property fair and square, the city planning commision knows what sort of facility will be placed there etc. etc. The minute you begin discriminating against a person's religion, you just became like the terrorists who brought down those 2 buildings...or worse...you just became a supporter of Nazism. Is that how you want to be thought of....if so you won't last long on this board.
 
What a slap in the face to the victims of 9-11 and their families and Americans around the world. This is outrageous. First we are told we are having the KSM trial blocks from ground zero and now this. The Muslims are daring us to stop them which we should. As a Conservative Louisiana America Patriot I urge that Americans should be truly appalled at the unmitigated arrogance of these people and those responsible for approving this should be publicly flogged and resign from their seats. There should be massive protests about this in the streets.

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A new Islamic mosque will open its doors just steps from Ground Zero where Muslim terrorists murdered 2,751 people in the name of Allah on Sept. 11, 2001 – and its leading imam, who conducts sensitivity training sessions for the FBI, has reportedly blamed Christians for starting mass attacks on civilians.

The five-story building at Park Place, just two blocks north of the former World Trade Center site, was the site of a Burlington Coat Factory. But a plane's landing-gear assembly crashed through the roof on the day 19 Muslim terrorists hijacked the airliners and flew them into the Twin Towers in 2001.

Now Muslim worshippers currently occupy the building, and they plan to turn it into a major Islamic cultural center.

"The men and women stand up, raise their hands on either side of their head, murmur 'Allahu akhbar,' bow and kneel again," reports Spiegel Online.

"Only in New York City is this possible," Daisy Khan, executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, or ASMA, told the magazine. Khan is the wife of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, founder of ASMA...

"It was almost obvious that something like this had to arise from the ashes of 9/11," Khan told Spiegel. "In some way, this has the hand of the divine written over it. It's almost as if God wanted to be involved."

So what if they put a mosque near ground zero? you see Patty in this country freedom of religion applies to all and unless this mosque is government sponsored it is of no concern to anybody.
 

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