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...The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical...
Prove it, show us identical passages in the two.
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...The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical...
I'm not a Muslim, but I know enough about Islam to know No Muslim would dare to tell someone to "bow down and worship me as god" as phoney claims
So you were around in the 7C and followed Mohamed around. He was a mentally incapacitated psychopath suffering from frontal lobe epilepsy, look it up to see what the symptoms are
You're the one making claims. When did Mohammed ever command others to worship him as God?
When he needed an excuse to attack the tribe of Jews in medina that was neutral, that is a shock to everyone until they read the facts from the Koran and hadiths. The hadiths tell of Mohamed sending a messenger to the tribe demanding they accept islam and bow down before him as they would god, they refused 3 times so he ordered his men to kill all the males who had pubic hair and to take the women and children as slaves.
Myth Muhammad and the Banu Qurayza
I'm not a Muslim, but I know enough about Islam to know No Muslim would dare to tell someone to "bow down and worship me as god" as phoney claims
So you were around in the 7C and followed Mohamed around. He was a mentally incapacitated psychopath suffering from frontal lobe epilepsy, look it up to see what the symptoms are
You're the one making claims. When did Mohammed ever command others to worship him as God?
When he needed an excuse to attack the tribe of Jews in medina that was neutral, that is a shock to everyone until they read the facts from the Koran and hadiths. The hadiths tell of Mohamed sending a messenger to the tribe demanding they accept islam and bow down before him as they would god, they refused 3 times so he ordered his men to kill all the males who had pubic hair and to take the women and children as slaves.
Myth Muhammad and the Banu Qurayza
Straight from The Religion Of Peace website, there's a surprise. No bias there then, is there?
...The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical...
Prove it, show us identical passages in the two.
Geez. Even more bloviating.
I'm not a Muslim, but I know enough about Islam to know No Muslim would dare to tell someone to "bow down and worship me as god" as phoney claims
So you were around in the 7C and followed Mohamed around. He was a mentally incapacitated psychopath suffering from frontal lobe epilepsy, look it up to see what the symptoms are
You're the one making claims. When did Mohammed ever command others to worship him as God?
When he needed an excuse to attack the tribe of Jews in medina that was neutral, that is a shock to everyone until they read the facts from the Koran and hadiths. The hadiths tell of Mohamed sending a messenger to the tribe demanding they accept islam and bow down before him as they would god, they refused 3 times so he ordered his men to kill all the males who had pubic hair and to take the women and children as slaves.
Myth Muhammad and the Banu Qurayza
Straight from The Religion Of Peace website, there's a surprise. No bias there then, is there?
Straight from the Koran and hadiths which are not biased are they ?
...The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical...
Prove it, show us identical passages in the two.
Why don't you ?
So you were around in the 7C and followed Mohamed around. He was a mentally incapacitated psychopath suffering from frontal lobe epilepsy, look it up to see what the symptoms are
You're the one making claims. When did Mohammed ever command others to worship him as God?
When he needed an excuse to attack the tribe of Jews in medina that was neutral, that is a shock to everyone until they read the facts from the Koran and hadiths. The hadiths tell of Mohamed sending a messenger to the tribe demanding they accept islam and bow down before him as they would god, they refused 3 times so he ordered his men to kill all the males who had pubic hair and to take the women and children as slaves.
Myth Muhammad and the Banu Qurayza
Straight from The Religion Of Peace website, there's a surprise. No bias there then, is there?
Straight from the Koran and hadiths which are not biased are they ?
Except they're not. They're spun "interpretations" by Muslim-haters, of the works of Arab/Persian historians like al-Tabari who wrote centuries after the perported events are supposed to have occured. Histories based on surviving folklore. The originals don't have anywhere near the level of "detail" in that article, most of which is pure speculation.
Here you go...The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical...
Prove it, show us identical passages in the two.
Why don't you ?
You made the assertion, it's up to you to prove your point. By turning it back on me, you conceed that your assertion is false. Thanks.
I think this is called "flinging shit" to see if anything sticks.
Your claim was: Your claim was that the Mufti (and the Muslims) gave Hitler his idea for the Final Solution
Instead, you toss in a video on Hamas (which, in the scheme of billions of Muslims world wide) - amounts to a drop in the bucket.
Where is the evidence to support the claim that Hitler got his genocidal ideas for the Final Solution from the Mufti or from Muslims?
No my claim was the Nazis got the idea from islam and the muslims, the Mufti was just the icing on the cake. The evidence is there in the Koran, hadiths and the Islamic histories that islam had it as a command from Mohamed to kill the Jews
So you are claiming that the Nazi's got the idea for the Final Solution from Islam and the Muslims? Really now? What evidence do you have that that is where his idea of genocide came from?
The Koran and hadiths that he is known to have read while in prison. The Nuremburg laws are based on the pact of Omar and set out the rights of non muslims under Islamic rule.
Hitler might have read the Bible too while he was in prison. What exactly does that prove? Where is the evidence that he got the idea from the Muslims?
The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical, showing that the Nazis were involved in islam when putting together the Final solution. The evidence is there, you just don't want to deal with it. You don't want there to be a connection between Islamic violence and genocide of the Jews and the Nazi violence and genocide of the Jews.
Here you go...The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical...
Prove it, show us identical passages in the two.
Why don't you ?
You made the assertion, it's up to you to prove your point. By turning it back on me, you conceed that your assertion is false. Thanks.
Pact of Umar - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Nuremberg Laws - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
The first law The Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honour,[29] prohibited marriages and extramarital intercourse between "Jews" and "Germans" and also the employment of "German" females under forty-five in Jewish households
The second law, The Reich Citizenship Law,[30] declared those not of German blood to be Staatsangehörige (state subjects) while those classified as Aryans ("German or related blood") were Reichsbürger (citizens of the Reich). Wilhelm Frick wrote "No Jew can become a Reich Citizen, because German blood is a prerequisite in the Reich citizenship code."
Prohibition for non-Muslims males to marry a muslim wife.
- Prohibition to adoption a Muslim title of honor.
I'm not a Muslim, but I know enough about Islam to know No Muslim would dare to tell someone to "bow down and worship me as god" as phoney claims
So you were around in the 7C and followed Mohamed around. He was a mentally incapacitated psychopath suffering from frontal lobe epilepsy, look it up to see what the symptoms are
You're the one making claims. When did Mohammed ever command others to worship him as God?
When he needed an excuse to attack the tribe of Jews in medina that was neutral, that is a shock to everyone until they read the facts from the Koran and hadiths. The hadiths tell of Mohamed sending a messenger to the tribe demanding they accept islam and bow down before him as they would god, they refused 3 times so he ordered his men to kill all the males who had pubic hair and to take the women and children as slaves.
Myth Muhammad and the Banu Qurayza
No my claim was the Nazis got the idea from islam and the muslims, the Mufti was just the icing on the cake. The evidence is there in the Koran, hadiths and the Islamic histories that islam had it as a command from Mohamed to kill the Jews
So you are claiming that the Nazi's got the idea for the Final Solution from Islam and the Muslims? Really now? What evidence do you have that that is where his idea of genocide came from?
The Koran and hadiths that he is known to have read while in prison. The Nuremburg laws are based on the pact of Omar and set out the rights of non muslims under Islamic rule.
Hitler might have read the Bible too while he was in prison. What exactly does that prove? Where is the evidence that he got the idea from the Muslims?
The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical, showing that the Nazis were involved in islam when putting together the Final solution. The evidence is there, you just don't want to deal with it. You don't want there to be a connection between Islamic violence and genocide of the Jews and the Nazi violence and genocide of the Jews.
Specifically where do the Nuremberg laws say anything about Islam being the reason or even influencing their decision to go the genocide route?
Here you go...The Nuremberg laws and the pact of Omar are identical...
Prove it, show us identical passages in the two.
Why don't you ?
You made the assertion, it's up to you to prove your point. By turning it back on me, you conceed that your assertion is false. Thanks.
Pact of Umar - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Nuremberg Laws - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
The first law The Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honour,[29] prohibited marriages and extramarital intercourse between "Jews" and "Germans" and also the employment of "German" females under forty-five in Jewish households
The second law, The Reich Citizenship Law,[30] declared those not of German blood to be Staatsangehörige (state subjects) while those classified as Aryans ("German or related blood") were Reichsbürger (citizens of the Reich). Wilhelm Frick wrote "No Jew can become a Reich Citizen, because German blood is a prerequisite in the Reich citizenship code."
Prohibition for non-Muslims males to marry a muslim wife.
- Prohibition to adoption a Muslim title of honor.
What is this supposed to prove?
I'm not a Muslim, but I know enough about Islam to know No Muslim would dare to tell someone to "bow down and worship me as god" as phoney claims
So you were around in the 7C and followed Mohamed around. He was a mentally incapacitated psychopath suffering from frontal lobe epilepsy, look it up to see what the symptoms are
You're the one making claims. When did Mohammed ever command others to worship him as God?
When he needed an excuse to attack the tribe of Jews in medina that was neutral, that is a shock to everyone until they read the facts from the Koran and hadiths. The hadiths tell of Mohamed sending a messenger to the tribe demanding they accept islam and bow down before him as they would god, they refused 3 times so he ordered his men to kill all the males who had pubic hair and to take the women and children as slaves.
Myth Muhammad and the Banu Qurayza
To quote you - can you find some unbiased and legitimate source? Where does he order them to bow down before him as a God?
The pact of Umar that the Phoney always refers to was not even directed at the Jews, they are not even mentioned, and it is not know if it applied to other religions besides Christianity. It applied many of the laws that Christians had for non-Christians when the Christians were in power, to the now defeated Christians. So, please shut up Phoney, Jews do not have anything to do with the Pact of Umar.
"In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate!
This is a writing to Umar from the Christians of such and such a city. When You [Muslims] marched against us [Christians],: we asked of you protection for ourselves, our posterity, our possessions, and our co-religionists; and we made this stipulation with you, that we will not erect in our city or the suburbs any new monastery, church, cell or hermitage; that we will not repair any of such buildings that may fall into ruins, or renew those that may be situated in the Muslim quarters of the town; that we will not refuse the Muslims entry into our churches either by night or by day; that we will open the gates wide to passengers and travellers; that we will receive any Muslim traveller into our houses and give him food and lodging for three nights; that we will not harbor any spy in our churches or houses, or conceal any enemy of the Muslims. [At least six of these laws were taken over from earlier Christian laws against infidels.]
That we will not teach our children the Qu'ran [some nationalist Arabs feared the infidels would ridicule the Qu'ran; others did not want infidels even to learn the language]; that we will not make a show of the Christian religion nor invite any one to embrace it; that we will not prevent any of our kinsmen from embracing Islam, if they so desire. That we will honor the Muslims and rise up in our assemblies when they wish to take their seats; that we will not imitate them in our dress, either in the cap, turban, sandals, or parting of the hair; that we will not make use of their expressions of speech, nor adopt their surnames [infidels must not use greetings and special phrases employed only by Muslims]; that we will not ride on saddles, or gird on swords, or take to ourselves arms or wear them, or engrave Arabic inscriptions on our rings; that we will not sell wine [forbidden to Muslims]; that we will shave the front of our heads; that we will keep to our own style of dress, wherever we may be; that we will wear girdles round our waists [infidels wore leather or cord girdles; Muslims, cloth and silk]."
That we will not display the cross upon our churches or display our crosses or our sacred books in the streets of the Muslims, or in their market-places; that we will strike the clappers in our churches lightly [wooden rattles or bells summoned the people to church or synagogue]; that we will not recite our services in a loud voice when a Muslim is present; that we will not carry Palm branches [on Palm Sunday] or our images in procession in the streets; that at the burial of our dead we will not chant loudly or carry lighted candles in the streets of the Muslims or their market places; that we will not take any slaves that have already been in the possession of Muslims, nor spy into their houses; and that we will not strike any Muslim.
All this we promise to observe, on behalf of ourselves and our co-religionists, and receive protection from you in exchange; and if we violate any of the conditions of this agreement, then we forfeit your protection and you are at liberty to treat us as enemies and rebels."