UN panel launches inquiry over flotilla crisis

Innocents? Bullshit. Once they took up arms, even if they were crappy ones they became combatants.

It wasnt murder, it was combat. fight soldiers and you run the chance of getting killed. Look at all the other boats with ZERO casualties. One boat decided to repel boarders, and they paid for it.
Autopsy evidence suggests "...that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute."

"The results revealed that a 60 year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip, and back.

"A 19-year-old, named Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less than 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back.

"Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back..."

It wasn't combat.
Combat is when both sides have guns.
It was murder.

In the "What-Stupid-Lie-Will-the-IDF-Tell-Next" department: the Guardian reported "that 'all but one of the bullets retrieved from the bodies came from 9mm rounds.'

That seems a little suspicious since the day before these results were issued an Israeli Navy officer insisted "that navy commandos don't carry 9mm guns, and the empty 9mm casings were proof that the humanitarian activists had brought guns with them."

Israel and the USA...the premier Failed States on this planet.

So a cop shooting someone coming at them with a knife is a murderer?

Your logic doesnt make sense. Once the passengers started attacking them with whatever they became combatants.

Ha Ha with the failed state thing. Just because you say something doesnt mean its true. I dont see either country going anywhere any time soon.

Amazingly, the only person being charged by the Idaho prosecutor for the initial shoot-out is the Weavers’ friend Kevin Harris. During that shoot-out, Harris killed a United States Marshal, and said he was acting in self-defense. The federal government prosecuted him for the killing in 1993, and he was acquitted.

The Ruby Ridge Prosecutions

The civilians on the boat had the right to self defense. The attacking goons had no rights.
 
You will learn sooner or later that the terrorist card is no longer the ace of trump.
I never said it was, your greatest weapon is the unity of the stupid and naive. Don't get me wrong, its a good weapon. But overall playing Neville Chamberlain is pathetic. I am looking forward to seeing France (and a few other cowardly European nations) surrender to Islam, the surrender monkeys never learn. :)

You play it like it was.

BTW, What does Neville Chamberlain and France have to do with anything?
Being naive and a push over.
 
Autopsy evidence suggests "...that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute."

"The results revealed that a 60 year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip, and back.

"A 19-year-old, named Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less than 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back.

"Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back..."

It wasn't combat.
Combat is when both sides have guns.
It was murder.

In the "What-Stupid-Lie-Will-the-IDF-Tell-Next" department: the Guardian reported "that 'all but one of the bullets retrieved from the bodies came from 9mm rounds.'

That seems a little suspicious since the day before these results were issued an Israeli Navy officer insisted "that navy commandos don't carry 9mm guns, and the empty 9mm casings were proof that the humanitarian activists had brought guns with them."

Israel and the USA...the premier Failed States on this planet.

So a cop shooting someone coming at them with a knife is a murderer?

Your logic doesnt make sense. Once the passengers started attacking them with whatever they became combatants.

Ha Ha with the failed state thing. Just because you say something doesnt mean its true. I dont see either country going anywhere any time soon.

Amazingly, the only person being charged by the Idaho prosecutor for the initial shoot-out is the Weavers’ friend Kevin Harris. During that shoot-out, Harris killed a United States Marshal, and said he was acting in self-defense. The federal government prosecuted him for the killing in 1993, and he was acquitted.

The Ruby Ridge Prosecutions

The civilians on the boat had the right to self defense. The attacking goons had no rights.

Wrong. They were attempting to break a DECLARED BLOCKADE. The state that declares such has the right to stop and detain ships trying to break said blockade. Once the passengers started to resist physically they were combatants, and as such could be engaged with deadly force.
 
So a cop shooting someone coming at them with a knife is a murderer?

Your logic doesnt make sense. Once the passengers started attacking them with whatever they became combatants.

Ha Ha with the failed state thing. Just because you say something doesnt mean its true. I dont see either country going anywhere any time soon.

Amazingly, the only person being charged by the Idaho prosecutor for the initial shoot-out is the Weavers’ friend Kevin Harris. During that shoot-out, Harris killed a United States Marshal, and said he was acting in self-defense. The federal government prosecuted him for the killing in 1993, and he was acquitted.

The Ruby Ridge Prosecutions

The civilians on the boat had the right to self defense. The attacking goons had no rights.

Wrong. They were attempting to break a DECLARED BLOCKADE. The state that declares such has the right to stop and detain ships trying to break said blockade. Once the passengers started to resist physically they were combatants, and as such could be engaged with deadly force.

Israel's self proclaimed blockade against people it occupies is not legitimate.
 
Innocents? Bullshit. Once they took up arms, even if they were crappy ones they became combatants.

It wasnt murder, it was combat. fight soldiers and you run the chance of getting killed. Look at all the other boats with ZERO casualties. One boat decided to repel boarders, and they paid for it.

Israel uses that excuse all the time. Israel attacks village. Twelve year old kid throws stones. Israel has the right to shoot the kid in the head.

Palestinians use that excuse all the time. Twelve year old being all Jewish. Palestinian has the right to blow up his bus.

The Palestinians only attack people who illegally occupy their land. The occupiers are free to leave any time they want.
 
Amazingly, the only person being charged by the Idaho prosecutor for the initial shoot-out is the Weavers’ friend Kevin Harris. During that shoot-out, Harris killed a United States Marshal, and said he was acting in self-defense. The federal government prosecuted him for the killing in 1993, and he was acquitted.

The Ruby Ridge Prosecutions

The civilians on the boat had the right to self defense. The attacking goons had no rights.

Wrong. They were attempting to break a DECLARED BLOCKADE. The state that declares such has the right to stop and detain ships trying to break said blockade. Once the passengers started to resist physically they were combatants, and as such could be engaged with deadly force.

Israel's self proclaimed blockade against people it occupies is not legitimate.

International Humanitarian Law - San Remo Manual 1994

Again with PF just saying stuff and thinking its true. Read up on the blockade section of the link I gave you. The Israeli blockades meets all the requirements listed under the section.
 
Again with PF just saying stuff and thinking its true. Read up on the blockade section of the link I gave you. The Israeli blockades meets all the requirements listed under the section.
Legal blockade or not is a mute point as the ships where attacked in International waters
 
Again with PF just saying stuff and thinking its true. Read up on the blockade section of the link I gave you. The Israeli blockades meets all the requirements listed under the section.
Legal blockade or not is a mute point as the ships where attacked in International waters



if you read what I linked, you CAN do it in international waters if the destination of the ships is known. Keep trying dipshit.
 
Wrong. They were attempting to break a DECLARED BLOCKADE. The state that declares such has the right to stop and detain ships trying to break said blockade. Once the passengers started to resist physically they were combatants, and as such could be engaged with deadly force.

Israel's self proclaimed blockade against people it occupies is not legitimate.

International Humanitarian Law - San Remo Manual 1994

Again with PF just saying stuff and thinking its true. Read up on the blockade section of the link I gave you. The Israeli blockades meets all the requirements listed under the section.

From your link:

SECTION III : ENEMY VESSELS AND AIRCRAFT EXEMPT FROM ATTACK

Classes of vessels exempt from attack

47. The following classes of enemy vessels are exempt from attack:

(ii) vessels engaged in humanitarian missions, including vessels carrying supplies indispensable to the survival of the civilian population, and vessels engaged in relief actions and rescue operations;
-----------------

Thank you.
 
Israel's self proclaimed blockade against people it occupies is not legitimate.

International Humanitarian Law - San Remo Manual 1994

Again with PF just saying stuff and thinking its true. Read up on the blockade section of the link I gave you. The Israeli blockades meets all the requirements listed under the section.

From your link:

SECTION III : ENEMY VESSELS AND AIRCRAFT EXEMPT FROM ATTACK

Classes of vessels exempt from attack

47. The following classes of enemy vessels are exempt from attack:

(ii) vessels engaged in humanitarian missions, including vessels carrying supplies indispensable to the survival of the civilian population, and vessels engaged in relief actions and rescue operations;
-----------------

Thank you.

Nice cherry picking. That doesnt apply to BLOCKADE. That section is for attack on open waters. If you read the blockade section the ship can be stopped, or diverted to another port. If it reisists it can be attacked.

Are you really this stupid?
 
International Humanitarian Law - San Remo Manual 1994

Again with PF just saying stuff and thinking its true. Read up on the blockade section of the link I gave you. The Israeli blockades meets all the requirements listed under the section.

From your link:

SECTION III : ENEMY VESSELS AND AIRCRAFT EXEMPT FROM ATTACK

Classes of vessels exempt from attack

47. The following classes of enemy vessels are exempt from attack:

(ii) vessels engaged in humanitarian missions, including vessels carrying supplies indispensable to the survival of the civilian population, and vessels engaged in relief actions and rescue operations;
-----------------

Thank you.

Nice cherry picking. That doesnt apply to BLOCKADE. That section is for attack on open waters. If you read the blockade section the ship can be stopped, or diverted to another port. If it reisists it can be attacked.

Are you really this stupid?

SECTION II : METHODS OF WARFARE

Blockade

93. A blockade shall be declared and notified to all belligerents and neutral States.

94. The declaration shall specify the commencement, duration, location, and extent of the blockade and the period within which vessels of neutral States may leave the blockaded coastline.

95. A blockade must be effective. The question whether a blockade is effective is a question of fact.
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BTW, what is the specified duration of this blockade?
 
From your link:

SECTION III : ENEMY VESSELS AND AIRCRAFT EXEMPT FROM ATTACK

Classes of vessels exempt from attack

47. The following classes of enemy vessels are exempt from attack:

(ii) vessels engaged in humanitarian missions, including vessels carrying supplies indispensable to the survival of the civilian population, and vessels engaged in relief actions and rescue operations;
-----------------

Thank you.

Nice cherry picking. That doesnt apply to BLOCKADE. That section is for attack on open waters. If you read the blockade section the ship can be stopped, or diverted to another port. If it reisists it can be attacked.

Are you really this stupid?

SECTION II : METHODS OF WARFARE

Blockade

93. A blockade shall be declared and notified to all belligerents and neutral States.

94. The declaration shall specify the commencement, duration, location, and extent of the blockade and the period within which vessels of neutral States may leave the blockaded coastline.

95. A blockade must be effective. The question whether a blockade is effective is a question of fact.
-------------------------
BTW, what is the specified duration of this blockade?

Duration can be "for the duration of hostilities." When the british declared the blockade of Germany in both World Wars It didnt have to know when the war was to end.

Again, nice cherry picking. You can't win this argument. They followed the rules.
 
Nice cherry picking. That doesnt apply to BLOCKADE. That section is for attack on open waters. If you read the blockade section the ship can be stopped, or diverted to another port. If it reisists it can be attacked.

Are you really this stupid?

SECTION II : METHODS OF WARFARE

Blockade

93. A blockade shall be declared and notified to all belligerents and neutral States.

94. The declaration shall specify the commencement, duration, location, and extent of the blockade and the period within which vessels of neutral States may leave the blockaded coastline.

95. A blockade must be effective. The question whether a blockade is effective is a question of fact.
-------------------------
BTW, what is the specified duration of this blockade?

Duration can be "for the duration of hostilities." When the british declared the blockade of Germany in both World Wars It didnt have to know when the war was to end.

Again, nice cherry picking. You can't win this argument. They followed the rules.

Hostilities with whom?
 
SECTION II : METHODS OF WARFARE

Blockade

93. A blockade shall be declared and notified to all belligerents and neutral States.

94. The declaration shall specify the commencement, duration, location, and extent of the blockade and the period within which vessels of neutral States may leave the blockaded coastline.

95. A blockade must be effective. The question whether a blockade is effective is a question of fact.
-------------------------
BTW, what is the specified duration of this blockade?

Duration can be "for the duration of hostilities." When the british declared the blockade of Germany in both World Wars It didnt have to know when the war was to end.

Again, nice cherry picking. You can't win this argument. They followed the rules.

Hostilities with whom?

Um, Hamas? The Goverment of Gaza? The one that prefer's combat with an unbeatable foe over taking care of its own people?
 
Innocents? Bullshit. Once they took up arms, even if they were crappy ones they became combatants.

It wasnt murder, it was combat. fight soldiers and you run the chance of getting killed. Look at all the other boats with ZERO casualties. One boat decided to repel boarders, and they paid for it.
Autopsy evidence suggests "...that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute."

"The results revealed that a 60 year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip, and back.

"A 19-year-old, named Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less than 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back.

"Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back..."

It wasn't combat.
Combat is when both sides have guns.
It was murder.

In the "What-Stupid-Lie-Will-the-IDF-Tell-Next" department: the Guardian reported "that 'all but one of the bullets retrieved from the bodies came from 9mm rounds.'

That seems a little suspicious since the day before these results were issued an Israeli Navy officer insisted "that navy commandos don't carry 9mm guns, and the empty 9mm casings were proof that the humanitarian activists had brought guns with them."

Israel and the USA...the premier Failed States on this planet.

So a cop shooting someone coming at them with a knife is a murderer?

Your logic doesnt make sense. Once the passengers started attacking them with whatever they became combatants.

Ha Ha with the failed state thing. Just because you say something doesnt mean its true. I dont see either country going anywhere any time soon.
If the cop shoots his knife-wielding attacker multiple times in the back of the head, yes she's a murderer.

Ken O'Keefe is a former US Marine who was on the Mavi Marmara last MEMORIAL DAY. He helped disarm three commandos and isolate them deep within the ship away from their fellow marauders.

"These boys were at our mercy, they were out of reach of their fellow murderers...I looked into the eyes of all three of these boys and I can tell you they had the fear of god in them...and I have no doubt they did not believe there was anyway they would survive that day."

"Terrorists" on the Mavi Marmara treated the commandos' wounds and allowed them to go free. Unlike the "logic" of cold-blooded executions the IDF displayed during their cowardly MEMORIAL DAY assault.

On Cowardice and Violence
 
Duration can be "for the duration of hostilities." When the british declared the blockade of Germany in both World Wars It didnt have to know when the war was to end.

Again, nice cherry picking. You can't win this argument. They followed the rules.

Hostilities with whom?

Um, Hamas? The Goverment of Gaza? The one that prefer's combat with an unbeatable foe over taking care of its own people?

There is no "government of Gaza." Palestine has never had an army. Hamas is a civilian militia defending Palestine. I guess Israel could have a war with them.

Israel attacks Palestinians in the West Bank almost every day. Who are they at war with there?
 
Autopsy evidence suggests "...that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute."

"The results revealed that a 60 year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip, and back.

"A 19-year-old, named Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less than 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back.

"Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back..."

It wasn't combat.
Combat is when both sides have guns.
It was murder.

In the "What-Stupid-Lie-Will-the-IDF-Tell-Next" department: the Guardian reported "that 'all but one of the bullets retrieved from the bodies came from 9mm rounds.'

That seems a little suspicious since the day before these results were issued an Israeli Navy officer insisted "that navy commandos don't carry 9mm guns, and the empty 9mm casings were proof that the humanitarian activists had brought guns with them."

Israel and the USA...the premier Failed States on this planet.

So a cop shooting someone coming at them with a knife is a murderer?

Your logic doesnt make sense. Once the passengers started attacking them with whatever they became combatants.

Ha Ha with the failed state thing. Just because you say something doesnt mean its true. I dont see either country going anywhere any time soon.
If the cop shoots his knife-wielding attacker multiple times in the back of the head, yes she's a murderer.

Ken O'Keefe is a former US Marine who was on the Mavi Marmara last MEMORIAL DAY. He helped disarm three commandos and isolate them deep within the ship away from their fellow marauders.

"These boys were at our mercy, they were out of reach of their fellow murderers...I looked into the eyes of all three of these boys and I can tell you they had the fear of god in them...and I have no doubt they did not believe there was anyway they would survive that day."

"Terrorists" on the Mavi Marmara treated the commandos' wounds and allowed them to go free. Unlike the "logic" of cold-blooded executions the IDF displayed during their cowardly MEMORIAL DAY assault.

On Cowardice and Violence

Your reference is from a biased source, show me some backup please, Ive provided more than enough to show that the blockade is legal.
 
So a cop shooting someone coming at them with a knife is a murderer?

Your logic doesnt make sense. Once the passengers started attacking them with whatever they became combatants.

Ha Ha with the failed state thing. Just because you say something doesnt mean its true. I dont see either country going anywhere any time soon.
If the cop shoots his knife-wielding attacker multiple times in the back of the head, yes she's a murderer.

Ken O'Keefe is a former US Marine who was on the Mavi Marmara last MEMORIAL DAY. He helped disarm three commandos and isolate them deep within the ship away from their fellow marauders.

"These boys were at our mercy, they were out of reach of their fellow murderers...I looked into the eyes of all three of these boys and I can tell you they had the fear of god in them...and I have no doubt they did not believe there was anyway they would survive that day."

"Terrorists" on the Mavi Marmara treated the commandos' wounds and allowed them to go free. Unlike the "logic" of cold-blooded executions the IDF displayed during their cowardly MEMORIAL DAY assault.

On Cowardice and Violence

Your reference is from a biased source, show me some backup please, Ive provided more than enough to show that the blockade is legal.

Actually, your link makes no reference to civilian aid ships.

Legal council to the Freedom Flotilla states that their activities conform to International law. The chairperson for the Freedom Flotilla, who teaches law at Jerusalem University, also states that their activities are legal.

I will take their word over the proven liars of Israel.
 
Israel uses that excuse all the time. Israel attacks village. Twelve year old kid throws stones. Israel has the right to shoot the kid in the head.

Palestinians use that excuse all the time. Twelve year old being all Jewish. Palestinian has the right to blow up his bus.

The Palestinians only attack people who illegally occupy their land. The occupiers are free to leave any time they want.
Thanks for confirming you don't mind kids being killed...as long as they're Jewish.

And by "thanks", I mean, "Fuck off, you piece of shit".
 

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