UN panel launches inquiry over flotilla crisis

[georgephillip]

Both sides are also looking ahead to the coming US elections on November 2nd, weeks after the next Freedom Flotilla sets sail for Gaza with aid vessels from around the world, including one from the US.

A US-flagged ship with the name "Audacity of Hope" might give Greater Israel good reason to think twice about murdering nine more innocents on the high seas.

Of course the US flag didn't stop Israel from killing 34 Americans on the USS Liberty in 1967.

Innocents? Bullshit. Once they took up arms, even if they were crappy ones they became combatants.

It wasnt murder, it was combat. fight soldiers and you run the chance of getting killed. Look at all the other boats with ZERO casualties. One boat decided to repel boarders, and they paid for it.

Autopsy evidence suggests "...that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute."

"The results revealed that a 60 year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip, and back.

"A 19-year-old, named Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less than 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back.

"Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back..."

It wasn't combat.
Combat is when both sides have guns.
It was murder.

In the "What-Stupid-Lie-Will-the-IDF-Tell-Next" department: the Guardian reported "that 'all but one of the bullets retrieved from the bodies came from 9mm rounds.'

That seems a little suspicious since the day before these results were issued an Israeli Navy officer insisted "that navy commandos don't carry 9mm guns, and the empty 9mm casings were proof that the humanitarian activists had brought guns with them."

Israel and the USA...the premier Failed States on this planet.

 

[ekrem]

(...)

Egypt also lifted blockade indefinately.

 

[ekrem]

All this with Turkey not itself having shot one bullet.
Or having televised Iran-style missile propaganda over TV screens.

According to Carnegie Endowment Turkey so far punched below its weight:

Turkey Emerges as Middle East Leader
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

Now we punch with full weight, pro-Palestine.
Because Turkish public says: We are all Palestine.
That punch collateraly also effected Egypt.

 

[Godboy]

Haha, Ekram thinks that theres going to be some sort of punishment for Israel. No, im sorry, those dumb fucks are dead and thats the end of that story. Israel wins.

One by one, all demands by Turkey are being met.
Demands were:
- immediate release of aid Activists, (done)
- release of ships (done)
- International investigation (done)

...and thats all they had to do in order to get away with killing 9 jew hating terrorist sympathizers? Looks like a win to me.

By the way, the investigation is being done with Israels blessing. They already know how its going to end. We all do. The proof is in the video and the whole world has seen it.

Like i said before, Israel wins.

 

[ekrem]

(...) visits to the UN by top-level Israelis may normally amount to just three or four a year, but since the flotilla incident, five visits by senior Israeli officials have been made in just two months.” According to WorldNetDaily, diplomats say the unusual number of Israeli consultations shows just how serious the government of Benjamin Netanyahu is taking the UN’s insistence on forming its own international review panel.
Israel agrees to UN commission inquiry over flotilla raid

They have to take it serious.
Turkey is among first five contributing members to UN police missions:
Turkish Mission to UN

We are exporter of security and stability.

 

[ekrem]

(...) They already know how its going to end. We all do. The proof is in the video and the whole world has seen it.

Like i said before, Israel wins.

Israel will apologize to families and compensate them.
Israel joins UN investigation to restore ties with Turkey.
--->

"Everything was made with Turkish agreement," a senior official in Jerusalem said.
"Hopefully the combination of lifting the siege on the Gaza Strip and establishing an international investigation will meet the Turkish demands and lead to a restoration of ties."

US UN Ambassador Rice:
The United States also hopes that the Panel can serve as a vehicle to enable Israel and Turkey to move beyond the recent strains in their relationship and repair their strong historic ties."

Netanyahu tells UN: Israel will cooperate with flotilla probe - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

An Israeli official said Israel's decision to participate was driven in large part by its desire to repair ties with Turkey, an important Israeli ally in the Middle East.

Israel agrees to participate in U.N.-led probe of raid on Gaza-bound aid ship

"Israel has nothing to hide," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement. "The opposite is true. It is in the national interest of the state of Israel to ensure that the factual truth of the overall flotilla events comes to light throughout the world, and this is exactly the principle that we are advancing."

Israel, Turkey to comply in flotilla inquiry - Washington Times
Face-safeing by Netanyahu to Israelian public for the time-being. All that drums of propaganda of Turkish terrorists. In the end, he saw, that US Congress can't help this time.
He can not declare immediately that his policies failed.

 

[ekrem]

I hope that future skirmishes now can be avoided, with Israel finally accepting, that it can not cope with Turkey in interest conflict fought in International Stage.
So, hopefully they will accept their fate, that Turks will contain them into their 20.700 square miles desert, so that the region is not destabilized by them against Turkish business interests.

 

[hipeter924]

Israel will cooperate with flotilla probe
PM bows to international and domestic pressure after 2 months

(...)
Turkey demanded that Israel apologize for the deaths of nine Turkish activists, compensate those injured, lift the blockade on the Gaza Strip and accept an international investigation.

"Everything was made with Turkish agreement," a senior official in Jerusalem said. "Hopefully the combination of lifting the siege on the Gaza Strip and establishing an international investigation will meet the Turkish demands and lead to a restoration of ties."

Haaretz
Netanyahu tells UN: Israel will cooperate with flotilla probe - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

From Turkish Terrorists on Sea attacking Israel, it has come to meeting Turkish demands.


Cartoon of the Day

In other words business as usual, in return for keeping quiet most of the time Israel keeps denying the Armenian Genocide,etc.

 

[ekrem]

Change has come to the Middle East.
Change and Hope, WE can believe in.

Who do you think is needed by USA to friendly manage this area, after it has withdrawn within 1 year?
usmb.com
http://www.usmessageboard.com/military/127317-obama-declares-iraq-war-to-end-august-31-2010-a.html

US has already placed outgoing Ankara Ambassador to Baghdad post.
USA has no other option besides supporting Turkey, so Turkey respects US interets in this region.

USA will soon re-deploy its support to Pacific Asian nations.
China has staged within last month major naval exercises in all its surrounding Seas, with the bordering nations increasingly facing Chinese Hegemony.
(Video) The Meaning of Military Exercises in East Asia
Read more: Dispatch: The Meaning of Military Exercises in East Asia | STRATFOR

US's Middle-East engagement is a "no benefit, pure cost" issue. With USreal Congress selling "no benefit" as "great benefit" to the milk cow, called tax-payer.
That costs will be spend in Afghanistan, and in China's surrounding, after Iraq War is over and US re-deploys out of Sunnite core-lands. In those core-lands, Turkey is already becoming old bull.

If the US administration can shut-up its Turkey-bashing USrael Congress, Turks might actually increase Afganistan involvement and send warships together with NATO into Pacific Asia.

Some still believe this is Neo-Con world and about Israel.
German State Television, ARD
German diplomats in Washington say the U.S. had not really realized how their position has changed in the world
Analyse: USA suchen nach neuer Türkei-Strategie | tagesschau.de


The Geopolitics of Turkey: Searching for More
Startfor PDF
http://web.stratfor.com/images/writers/STRATFORTurkeyMonograph.pdf?fn=6216796511

 

[P F Tinmore]

Haha, Ekram thinks that theres going to be some sort of punishment for Israel. No, im sorry, those dumb fucks are dead and thats the end of that story. Israel wins.

One by one, all demands by Turkey are being met.
Demands were:
- immediate release of aid Activists, (done)
- release of ships (done)
- International investigation (done)

...and thats all they had to do in order to get away with killing 9 jew hating terrorist sympathizers? Looks like a win to me.

By the way, the investigation is being done with Israels blessing. They already know how its going to end. We all do. The proof is in the video and the whole world has seen it.

Like i said before, Israel wins.

Israel will learn sooner or later that shooting up a bunch of civilians is not winning.

 

[ekrem]

Change has come to the Middle East.
Change and Hope, WE can believe in.

Who do you think is needed by USA to friendly manage this area, after it has withdrawn within 1 year?
usmb.com
http://www.usmessageboard.com/military/127317-obama-declares-iraq-war-to-end-august-31-2010-a.html

US has already placed outgoing Ankara Ambassador to Baghdad post.
USA has no other option besides supporting Turkey, so Turkey respects US interets in this region.

USA will soon re-deploy its support to Pacific Asian nations.
China has staged within last month major naval exercises in all its surrounding Seas, with the bordering nations increasingly facing Chinese Hegemony.
(Video) The Meaning of Military Exercises in East Asia
Read more: Dispatch: The Meaning of Military Exercises in East Asia | STRATFOR

US's Middle-East engagement is a "no benefit, pure cost" issue. With USreal Congress selling "no benefit" as "great benefit" to the milk cow, called tax-payer.
That costs will be spend in Afghanistan, and in China's surrounding, after Iraq War is over and US re-deploys out of Sunnite core-lands. In those core-lands, Turkey is already becoming old bull.

If the US administration can shut-up its Turkey-bashing USrael Congress, Turks might actually increase Afganistan involvement and send warships together with NATO into Pacific Asia.

Some still believe this is Neo-Con world and about Israel.
German State Television, ARD
German diplomats in Washington say the U.S. had not really realized how their position has changed in the world
Analyse: USA suchen nach neuer Türkei-Strategie | tagesschau.de


The Geopolitics of Turkey: Searching for More
Startfor PDF
http://web.stratfor.com/images/writers/STRATFORTurkeyMonograph.pdf?fn=6216796511

But no, you Neubarth-type Neo-Cons want to nuke us and prison us in Guantanamo-alike.
You play with us the "with me or against me" game, whilst the ME part is in reality not USA but Israel.
God, send some brain into Province America, and before that, a big portion of patriotism and affiliation with the own country.

 

[hipeter924]

One by one, all demands by Turkey are being met.
Demands were:
- immediate release of aid Activists, (done)
- release of ships (done)
- International investigation (done)

...and thats all they had to do in order to get away with killing 9 jew hating terrorist sympathizers? Looks like a win to me.

By the way, the investigation is being done with Israels blessing. They already know how its going to end. We all do. The proof is in the video and the whole world has seen it.

Like i said before, Israel wins.

Israel will learn sooner or later that shooting up a bunch of civilians is not winning.

You will learn sooner or later that moaning, a few terrorist attacks and hate mail alone can't wipe a nation off the map.

 

[P F Tinmore]

...and thats all they had to do in order to get away with killing 9 jew hating terrorist sympathizers? Looks like a win to me.

By the way, the investigation is being done with Israels blessing. They already know how its going to end. We all do. The proof is in the video and the whole world has seen it.

Like i said before, Israel wins.

Israel will learn sooner or later that shooting up a bunch of civilians is not winning.

You will learn sooner or later that moaning, a few terrorist attacks and hate mail alone can't wipe a nation off the map.

You will learn sooner or later that the terrorist card is no longer the ace of trump.

 

[hipeter924]

Israel will learn sooner or later that shooting up a bunch of civilians is not winning.

You will learn sooner or later that moaning, a few terrorist attacks and hate mail alone can't wipe a nation off the map.

You will learn sooner or later that the terrorist card is no longer the ace of trump.

I never said it was, your greatest weapon is the unity of the stupid and naive. Don't get me wrong, its a good weapon. But overall playing Neville Chamberlain is pathetic. I am looking forward to seeing France (and a few other cowardly European nations) surrender to Islam, the surrender monkeys never learn.

 

[daveman]

Israel has announced it will co-operate with a UN investigation into its raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla in May.

"Israel has nothing to hide, the opposite is true," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said.

BBC News - Israel to co-operate with UN probe into Gaza flotilla
Strange choice of words I wonder what the opposite of nothing to hide is?

The opposite is "lots to hide"...like the Turkish "charity" that organized the flotilla being involved in terrorism.

 

[daveman]

Both sides are also looking ahead to the coming US elections on November 2nd, weeks after the next Freedom Flotilla sets sail for Gaza with aid vessels from around the world, including one from the US.

A US-flagged ship with the name "Audacity of Hope" might give Greater Israel good reason to think twice about murdering nine more innocents on the high seas.

Of course the US flag didn't stop Israel from killing 34 Americans on the USS Liberty in 1967.

Innocents? Bullshit. Once they took up arms, even if they were crappy ones they became combatants.

It wasnt murder, it was combat. fight soldiers and you run the chance of getting killed. Look at all the other boats with ZERO casualties. One boat decided to repel boarders, and they paid for it.

Israel uses that excuse all the time. Israel attacks village. Twelve year old kid throws stones. Israel has the right to shoot the kid in the head.

Palestinians use that excuse all the time. Twelve year old being all Jewish. Palestinian has the right to blow up his bus.

 

[martybegan]

Since when has boarding a ship in International waters been legal?

The boats declared they were attempting to break a declared bloackade. They were then shadowed by the Israeli ships, and then boarded. They were warned to turn towards the port over the radio and ignored said warnings.

When the US declared the blockade of cuba it was done in international waters.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You will learn sooner or later that moaning, a few terrorist attacks and hate mail alone can't wipe a nation off the map.

You will learn sooner or later that the terrorist card is no longer the ace of trump.

I never said it was, your greatest weapon is the unity of the stupid and naive. Don't get me wrong, its a good weapon. But overall playing Neville Chamberlain is pathetic. I am looking forward to seeing France (and a few other cowardly European nations) surrender to Islam, the surrender monkeys never learn.

You play it like it was.

BTW, What does Neville Chamberlain and France have to do with anything?

 

[daveman]

Israel and the USA...the premier Failed States on this planet.

Then leave.

Oh, that's right. You can't. You're a coward.

 

[martybegan]

Both sides are also looking ahead to the coming US elections on November 2nd, weeks after the next Freedom Flotilla sets sail for Gaza with aid vessels from around the world, including one from the US.

A US-flagged ship with the name "Audacity of Hope" might give Greater Israel good reason to think twice about murdering nine more innocents on the high seas.

Of course the US flag didn't stop Israel from killing 34 Americans on the USS Liberty in 1967.

Innocents? Bullshit. Once they took up arms, even if they were crappy ones they became combatants.

It wasnt murder, it was combat. fight soldiers and you run the chance of getting killed. Look at all the other boats with ZERO casualties. One boat decided to repel boarders, and they paid for it.

Autopsy evidence suggests "...that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute."

"The results revealed that a 60 year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip, and back.

"A 19-year-old, named Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less than 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back.

"Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back..."

It wasn't combat.
Combat is when both sides have guns.
It was murder.

In the "What-Stupid-Lie-Will-the-IDF-Tell-Next" department: the Guardian reported "that 'all but one of the bullets retrieved from the bodies came from 9mm rounds.'

That seems a little suspicious since the day before these results were issued an Israeli Navy officer insisted "that navy commandos don't carry 9mm guns, and the empty 9mm casings were proof that the humanitarian activists had brought guns with them."

Israel and the USA...the premier Failed States on this planet.

So a cop shooting someone coming at them with a knife is a murderer?

Your logic doesnt make sense. Once the passengers started attacking them with whatever they became combatants.

Ha Ha with the failed state thing. Just because you say something doesnt mean its true. I dont see either country going anywhere any time soon.