Ultimate Power: Population

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    The article is global in theme, but I'm going to post the American bite:

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3376&page=1

     
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    Well this is good news. Liberals are going to kill themselves off with their birth rates. :beer:
     
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    I disagree that being pro reproduction is Patriarchy. Other than that, good article.
     
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    I agree, good article.

    As to increased fertility leading to an increase in a patriarchal system, I believe it very often does.
     
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    I don't think a patriarchal system is necessarily bad. It's about time men started standing up and taking responsibilities for their families. I think if men lived up to the responsibilities as a husband and father then need to live up to, a patriarchal society will be good because it will cause strong families. Children will get the proper support, love, and education that they need to be successful in the future world.

    Note on the article: I don't think it should have ignored the aspect of abortion on destroying liberal populations.
     
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    Just in the sense that men are not demeaned as fools. If normal family is considered patriarchal, then I guess .... I don't know what I guess.
     
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    Agreed, on both points.
    It only makes sense that increased fertility leads to increased "patriarchy." I know, with 4 kids, it would be hard for me to work, even if I wanted to. I would basically be working just to pay daycare. And how many men AND women want the man to be the one to stay at home? In some families, this might work better, but I think most women want to stay home, and most men would find that very frustrating in the long run.

    I agree with your assessment of patriarchy, too. The primary childcare giver necessarily incurs a greater loss of personal freedom. This is why parental (uncompensated) childcare is seen as such an evil thing. Loss of personal freedom is the ultimate evil to some. But the "patriarch" isn't necessarily a tyrant. Love and support are due to the wife, too. And the "meaningfulness" of her work can be a great compensation and motivator.
     
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    Any wife who demeans her "patriarchal" husband as a fool, is the ultimate fool, herself. She shouldn't bite the hand that feeds her.

    By the same token, a husband who looks down on his wife because she isn't paid for her work doesn't know which side his buttered on.
     
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    Ironically, It is through our duties and responsibilities in family and society that make us free. It is when we disregard them and try to run away from our responsibilities that we are our children after us come into bondage.
     
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    Yes!
     

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