UK : Pakistani men sexually abused 1400 young/minor girls

[Phoenall]

@Phoenall 15000 Jews died in Belsen after liberation and you you fucking animal blame the liberators.

So you admit to half the truth but stall at putting the blame were it belongs. Do you know what the treatment for Typhus/typhoid is half wit, a good bath in a pesticide ( like zyklon b or magnesium cyanide ) and clean clothes. So why did the British not do this from day one, why did they wait for so long. Why did the doctors want to treat their own and leave the Jews and Gypsies to die, was it down to their ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED.

I see you had no comment on the fake evidence used to convict German soldiers of war crimes at Nuremburg that was known to be false. The Russian prosecutors knew there were never any gas chambers at Auschwitz but still used their existence to execute Germans. The American prosecutors knew there were no gas chambers at Belsen but still used their existence and the fact that 20,000 Jews were gassed in one night to prosecute Germans. So you are no better than the Nazi's and ISLAMONAZI's when you perpetuate the false claims just so you can have your revenge.

 

[Phoenall]

What has Holocaust porn got to do with Pakistani men in Rotherham?

It exposes credibility you Nazi Drek

Is that a debatable issue?

It is when the neo Marxists have no answers to the points raised and have to invoke Goodwins Law to win a brownie point.

 

[Indofred]

The Muslims are the ones interpreting it and acting upon those interpretations. They do NOT think it is taken out of context or era.

Not at all.
A few Muslims wanted to rape children.
Ethnicity and cultural identity - Rotherham Joint Strategic Needs Assessment

There are about 8,000 Muslims from Pakistan and area in Rotherham, only a very few engaged in this filth.
This suggests, all the shit about these people following the holy book is in error, or the rest are really bad Muslims.

So are you saying 8,000 adult male muslims. Because you are playing with the numbers again the wrong message is being put across. If you look at the reality 1,700 of these 8,000 are adult males, which means the numbers named by the various girls, 259, is 21% of the total adult male Pakistani population of Rotherham. When put like that it is an alarming number that needs to be addressed vigorously by the authorities. Imagine the uproar if it had been 21% of the Jewish adult male population, or 21% of the Catholic priest population.

The Jew population of New York is about 1.5 million.
If 50% are male, that's 750,000 people.
If 50% of the males are children or too old to fuck anything, that leaves 375,000 Jews that fuck.

Nechemya Weberman among 46 named convicted child sex offenders who terrorized the Orthodox Jewish community are released by Brooklyn DA Mail Online

There were originally 118 cases viewed by NYPD detectives under operation Kol Tzedek, Hebrew for 'voice of justice'.

Of those, 25 sex offenders were jailed.
At least 10 cases were dismissed and seven downgraded because victims backed out or parents refused to let their children testify
/QUOTE]

Doesn't sound many, but a lot of the guilty bastards were never charged because there was intimidation of the victims' families, so they never testified or withdrew charges.

Loads more bastards

Ultra-Orthodox Jews turn out by the hundreds for accused sex offender World news theguardian.com

On the street outside the Continental catering hall in Williamsburg, they filled the sidewalk, at times spilling onto the road to be pushed back by police. Inside the packed room, men of all ages dressed in the traditional garb of the Satmar Hasidic sect – long black coats, round hats and side curls – listened to their community elders speak out in support of a man they claim has been wrongly accused.

With the issue of child sexual abuse in the ultra-Orthodox community gaining ever greater press attention, the approaching trial of Nechemya Weberman has become a touch paper, igniting passions on both sides of the growing divide in this community – between those who claim most alleged child sex crimes are hushed up and those who refute the charge.

One of the bastards fucked a load of kids, and all his mates went out to get him off.
There's clearly a massive problem of sexual abuse being hidden in New York's Jew community.

 

[Mindful]

Nazi dreck? What if I said Paki Bashing?

 

[Indofred]

Brooklyn DA releases names of 46 convicted child sex offenders within Orthodox Jewish community

The Brooklyn District Attorney has released the names of the 45 men and one woman convicted on charges of child sex abuse since a crackdown on abuse within Brooklyn’s ultra-Orthodox Jewish community began four years ago.

The DA tried to hide the facts.
Brooklyn DA accused of failing to tackle Orthodox Jews cover-up of sex abuse World news theguardian.com

Brooklyn DA accused of failing to tackle Orthodox Jews' cover-up of sex abuse
Critics say Charles Hynes has failed to wrest control from rabbis who refuse to co-operate with secular authorities..
...
A systemic cover-up of child sexual abuse in Brooklyn's ultra-Orthodox Jewish enclaves continues to obstruct justice for young victims, despite claims by religious leaders and the Brooklyn district attorney that the problem is in hand.

A long-standing culture of non-cooperation with secular justice by Brooklyn's ultra-Orthodox Jews keeps many child sex offenders out of the courts and at large in their communities.

Bloody hell, the Jews are fucking loads of kids in the states, and the authorities are covering it up.

 

[Indofred]

Getting a Grip on Religious Sex Abuse Rabbi Yitzchak Schochet

This tells us how the jews in the UK hide their perverts.

 

[Phoenall]

The Muslims are the ones interpreting it and acting upon those interpretations. They do NOT think it is taken out of context or era.

Not at all.
A few Muslims wanted to rape children.
Ethnicity and cultural identity - Rotherham Joint Strategic Needs Assessment

There are about 8,000 Muslims from Pakistan and area in Rotherham, only a very few engaged in this filth.
This suggests, all the shit about these people following the holy book is in error, or the rest are really bad Muslims.

So are you saying 8,000 adult male muslims. Because you are playing with the numbers again the wrong message is being put across. If you look at the reality 1,700 of these 8,000 are adult males, which means the numbers named by the various girls, 259, is 21% of the total adult male Pakistani population of Rotherham. When put like that it is an alarming number that needs to be addressed vigorously by the authorities. Imagine the uproar if it had been 21% of the Jewish adult male population, or 21% of the Catholic priest population.

The Jew population of New York is about 1.5 million.
If 50% are male, that's 750,000 people.
If 50% of the males are children or too old to fuck anything, that leaves 375,000 Jews that fuck.

Nechemya Weberman among 46 named convicted child sex offenders who terrorized the Orthodox Jewish community are released by Brooklyn DA Mail Online

There were originally 118 cases viewed by NYPD detectives under operation Kol Tzedek, Hebrew for 'voice of justice'.

Of those, 25 sex offenders were jailed.
At least 10 cases were dismissed and seven downgraded because victims backed out or parents refused to let their children testify
/QUOTE]

Doesn't sound many, but a lot of the guilty bastards were never charged because there was intimidation of the victims' families, so they never testified or withdrew charges.

Loads more bastards

Ultra-Orthodox Jews turn out by the hundreds for accused sex offender World news theguardian.com

On the street outside the Continental catering hall in Williamsburg, they filled the sidewalk, at times spilling onto the road to be pushed back by police. Inside the packed room, men of all ages dressed in the traditional garb of the Satmar Hasidic sect – long black coats, round hats and side curls – listened to their community elders speak out in support of a man they claim has been wrongly accused.

With the issue of child sexual abuse in the ultra-Orthodox community gaining ever greater press attention, the approaching trial of Nechemya Weberman has become a touch paper, igniting passions on both sides of the growing divide in this community – between those who claim most alleged child sex crimes are hushed up and those who refute the charge.

One of the bastards fucked a load of kids, and all his mates went out to get him off.
There's clearly a massive problem of sexual abuse being hidden in New York's Jew community.

I agree with you completely, and the ones found guilty of the crime should be sentenced harshly. Those that have covered for the crimes should also be charged with perverting the course of Justice and sentenced accordingly. The rapists should be emasculated so they cant rape any more children and their line will end with them. It has nothing to do with race or culture in this case, just a group that are child rapists.

But this still does not alter the fact that the Pakistani muslim men in the UK were acting on the commands of their religion

 

[Phoenall]

Brooklyn DA releases names of 46 convicted child sex offenders within Orthodox Jewish community

The Brooklyn District Attorney has released the names of the 45 men and one woman convicted on charges of child sex abuse since a crackdown on abuse within Brooklyn’s ultra-Orthodox Jewish community began four years ago.

The DA tried to hide the facts.
Brooklyn DA accused of failing to tackle Orthodox Jews cover-up of sex abuse World news theguardian.com

Brooklyn DA accused of failing to tackle Orthodox Jews' cover-up of sex abuse
Critics say Charles Hynes has failed to wrest control from rabbis who refuse to co-operate with secular authorities..
...
A systemic cover-up of child sexual abuse in Brooklyn's ultra-Orthodox Jewish enclaves continues to obstruct justice for young victims, despite claims by religious leaders and the Brooklyn district attorney that the problem is in hand.

A long-standing culture of non-cooperation with secular justice by Brooklyn's ultra-Orthodox Jews keeps many child sex offenders out of the courts and at large in their communities.

Bloody hell, the Jews are fucking loads of kids in the states, and the authorities are covering it up.

Have they reached 1400 yet, or is it still less than 100 ?

 

[ChrisL]

The Muslims are the ones interpreting it and acting upon those interpretations. They do NOT think it is taken out of context or era.

Not at all.
A few Muslims wanted to rape children.
Ethnicity and cultural identity - Rotherham Joint Strategic Needs Assessment

There are about 8,000 Muslims from Pakistan and area in Rotherham, only a very few engaged in this filth.
This suggests, all the shit about these people following the holy book is in error, or the rest are really bad Muslims.

So are you saying 8,000 adult male muslims. Because you are playing with the numbers again the wrong message is being put across. If you look at the reality 1,700 of these 8,000 are adult males, which means the numbers named by the various girls, 259, is 21% of the total adult male Pakistani population of Rotherham. When put like that it is an alarming number that needs to be addressed vigorously by the authorities. Imagine the uproar if it had been 21% of the Jewish adult male population, or 21% of the Catholic priest population.

The Jew population of New York is about 1.5 million.
If 50% are male, that's 750,000 people.
If 50% of the males are children or too old to fuck anything, that leaves 375,000 Jews that fuck.

Nechemya Weberman among 46 named convicted child sex offenders who terrorized the Orthodox Jewish community are released by Brooklyn DA Mail Online

There were originally 118 cases viewed by NYPD detectives under operation Kol Tzedek, Hebrew for 'voice of justice'.

Of those, 25 sex offenders were jailed.
At least 10 cases were dismissed and seven downgraded because victims backed out or parents refused to let their children testify
/QUOTE]

Doesn't sound many, but a lot of the guilty bastards were never charged because there was intimidation of the victims' families, so they never testified or withdrew charges.

Loads more bastards

Ultra-Orthodox Jews turn out by the hundreds for accused sex offender World news theguardian.com

On the street outside the Continental catering hall in Williamsburg, they filled the sidewalk, at times spilling onto the road to be pushed back by police. Inside the packed room, men of all ages dressed in the traditional garb of the Satmar Hasidic sect – long black coats, round hats and side curls – listened to their community elders speak out in support of a man they claim has been wrongly accused.

With the issue of child sexual abuse in the ultra-Orthodox community gaining ever greater press attention, the approaching trial of Nechemya Weberman has become a touch paper, igniting passions on both sides of the growing divide in this community – between those who claim most alleged child sex crimes are hushed up and those who refute the charge.

One of the bastards fucked a load of kids, and all his mates went out to get him off.
There's clearly a massive problem of sexual abuse being hidden in New York's Jew community.

I agree with you completely, and the ones found guilty of the crime should be sentenced harshly. Those that have covered for the crimes should also be charged with perverting the course of Justice and sentenced accordingly. The rapists should be emasculated so they cant rape any more children and their line will end with them. It has nothing to do with race or culture in this case, just a group that are child rapists.

But this still does not alter the fact that the Pakistani muslim men in the UK were acting on the commands of their religion

Yes, these guys need to brought out into the open, paraded through the streets and humiliated.

I agree, with others, its the occasional pervert. This is a way of life for a lot of Pakistani men. They like little girls and boys. I've also heard of some perverted things that some Muslims like to do with little boys. PIGS!

 

[ChrisL]

I think it's so hilarious that people who practice this sick religion think they're going to Heaven. I would put my money on hell for those people, if such a place exists. Crazy insane abusive murdering SOBs.

 

[ChrisL]

We should make this religion illegal. Yeah, freedom of religion and all that, but enough is enough. This is NOT a religion. It is a cult, and a very dangerous and influential one at that. This religious belief costs MILLIONS of people their lives, all because of some sick religious beliefs. It's really QUITE disgusting and I've just about had it.

 

[Indofred]

But this still does not alter the fact that the Pakistani muslim men in the UK were acting on the commands of their religion

As were the Jews, as proven by all the Jewish cover ups of Jew perverts.

 

[ChrisL]

The Muslims are the ones interpreting it and acting upon those interpretations. They do NOT think it is taken out of context or era.

Not at all.
A few Muslims wanted to rape children.
Ethnicity and cultural identity - Rotherham Joint Strategic Needs Assessment

There are about 8,000 Muslims from Pakistan and area in Rotherham, only a very few engaged in this filth.
This suggests, all the shit about these people following the holy book is in error, or the rest are really bad Muslims.

So are you saying 8,000 adult male muslims. Because you are playing with the numbers again the wrong message is being put across. If you look at the reality 1,700 of these 8,000 are adult males, which means the numbers named by the various girls, 259, is 21% of the total adult male Pakistani population of Rotherham. When put like that it is an alarming number that needs to be addressed vigorously by the authorities. Imagine the uproar if it had been 21% of the Jewish adult male population, or 21% of the Catholic priest population.

The Jew population of New York is about 1.5 million.
If 50% are male, that's 750,000 people.
If 50% of the males are children or too old to fuck anything, that leaves 375,000 Jews that fuck.

Nechemya Weberman among 46 named convicted child sex offenders who terrorized the Orthodox Jewish community are released by Brooklyn DA Mail Online

There were originally 118 cases viewed by NYPD detectives under operation Kol Tzedek, Hebrew for 'voice of justice'.

Of those, 25 sex offenders were jailed.
At least 10 cases were dismissed and seven downgraded because victims backed out or parents refused to let their children testify
/QUOTE]

Doesn't sound many, but a lot of the guilty bastards were never charged because there was intimidation of the victims' families, so they never testified or withdrew charges.

Loads more bastards

Ultra-Orthodox Jews turn out by the hundreds for accused sex offender World news theguardian.com

On the street outside the Continental catering hall in Williamsburg, they filled the sidewalk, at times spilling onto the road to be pushed back by police. Inside the packed room, men of all ages dressed in the traditional garb of the Satmar Hasidic sect – long black coats, round hats and side curls – listened to their community elders speak out in support of a man they claim has been wrongly accused.

With the issue of child sexual abuse in the ultra-Orthodox community gaining ever greater press attention, the approaching trial of Nechemya Weberman has become a touch paper, igniting passions on both sides of the growing divide in this community – between those who claim most alleged child sex crimes are hushed up and those who refute the charge.

One of the bastards fucked a load of kids, and all his mates went out to get him off.
There's clearly a massive problem of sexual abuse being hidden in New York's Jew community.

You are pathetic. Do you think that you are fooling ANYONE? Accept the FACTS, it is part of the culture and religious beliefs in the Middle Eastern Muslim countries to rape and oppress women, not to mention to beat them if they DARE step out of line.

 

[ChrisL]

The Muslims are the ones interpreting it and acting upon those interpretations. They do NOT think it is taken out of context or era.

Not at all.
A few Muslims wanted to rape children.
Ethnicity and cultural identity - Rotherham Joint Strategic Needs Assessment

There are about 8,000 Muslims from Pakistan and area in Rotherham, only a very few engaged in this filth.
This suggests, all the shit about these people following the holy book is in error, or the rest are really bad Muslims.

So are you saying 8,000 adult male muslims. Because you are playing with the numbers again the wrong message is being put across. If you look at the reality 1,700 of these 8,000 are adult males, which means the numbers named by the various girls, 259, is 21% of the total adult male Pakistani population of Rotherham. When put like that it is an alarming number that needs to be addressed vigorously by the authorities. Imagine the uproar if it had been 21% of the Jewish adult male population, or 21% of the Catholic priest population.

The Jew population of New York is about 1.5 million.
If 50% are male, that's 750,000 people.
If 50% of the males are children or too old to fuck anything, that leaves 375,000 Jews that fuck.

Nechemya Weberman among 46 named convicted child sex offenders who terrorized the Orthodox Jewish community are released by Brooklyn DA Mail Online

There were originally 118 cases viewed by NYPD detectives under operation Kol Tzedek, Hebrew for 'voice of justice'.

Of those, 25 sex offenders were jailed.
At least 10 cases were dismissed and seven downgraded because victims backed out or parents refused to let their children testify
/QUOTE]

Doesn't sound many, but a lot of the guilty bastards were never charged because there was intimidation of the victims' families, so they never testified or withdrew charges.

Loads more bastards

Ultra-Orthodox Jews turn out by the hundreds for accused sex offender World news theguardian.com

On the street outside the Continental catering hall in Williamsburg, they filled the sidewalk, at times spilling onto the road to be pushed back by police. Inside the packed room, men of all ages dressed in the traditional garb of the Satmar Hasidic sect – long black coats, round hats and side curls – listened to their community elders speak out in support of a man they claim has been wrongly accused.

With the issue of child sexual abuse in the ultra-Orthodox community gaining ever greater press attention, the approaching trial of Nechemya Weberman has become a touch paper, igniting passions on both sides of the growing divide in this community – between those who claim most alleged child sex crimes are hushed up and those who refute the charge.

One of the bastards fucked a load of kids, and all his mates went out to get him off.
There's clearly a massive problem of sexual abuse being hidden in New York's Jew community.

I agree with you completely, and the ones found guilty of the crime should be sentenced harshly. Those that have covered for the crimes should also be charged with perverting the course of Justice and sentenced accordingly. The rapists should be emasculated so they cant rape any more children and their line will end with them. It has nothing to do with race or culture in this case, just a group that are child rapists.

But this still does not alter the fact that the Pakistani muslim men in the UK were acting on the commands of their religion

I don't know why you bother with this tit-for-tat with some of these demented people. You just give credence to their claims, which we all know are bogus.

Other religions do tend to have beliefs which can be oppressive towards women, but they have grown and learned to accept that women are actually human beings too, unlike the Muslim religion. It is FULL of the MOST backward ass ignorant load of crap I've ever heard of in my life. If it were up to me, I wouldn't allow ANY Muslims in my country because I don't trust them. Yes, I am bigot towards the Muslim religion and I am not ashamed of that. I think it's a ROTTEN ideology.

 

[I.P.Freely]

@Phoenall 15000 Jews died in Belsen after liberation and you you fucking animal blame the liberators.

So you admit to half the truth but stall at putting the blame were it belongs. Do you know what the treatment for Typhus/typhoid is half wit, a good bath in a pesticide ( like zyklon b or magnesium cyanide ) and clean clothes. So why did the British not do this from day one, why did they wait for so long. Why did the doctors want to treat their own and leave the Jews and Gypsies to die, was it down to their ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED.

I see you had no comment on the fake evidence used to convict German soldiers of war crimes at Nuremburg that was known to be false. The Russian prosecutors knew there were never any gas chambers at Auschwitz but still used their existence to execute Germans. The American prosecutors knew there were no gas chambers at Belsen but still used their existence and the fact that 20,000 Jews were gassed in one night to prosecute Germans. So you are no better than the Nazi's and ISLAMONAZI's when you perpetuate the false claims just so you can have your revenge.

More GOYIMONAZI hogwash from a pathetic anti Semite read this link you Nazi Drek How to Refute Holocaust Denial Jewish Virtual Library
Lies. Zyklon-B was used partly because it is extremely efficient at killing people. True, there are other gases that are comparably efficient. However, Zyklon-B was unique in that it also had these two advantages:

It was easy to pack, store and transport -- it could be ordered from an ordinary chemical company, and came in sealed tins.

It was widely available, as it was used for delousing. In fact, probably over 90% of the Zyklon used at Auschwitz was used for delousing purposes. See e.g. Gutman, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, 1994, p. 215.

As noted in the answer to question 28, it is extremely efficient for mass murder. In fact, HCN, the gas released by Zyklon-B, is used today to execute condemned people in the United States.

In fairness, it should be pointed out that today's execution gas chambers generate HCN by chemical reaction, not by simply allowing it to evaporate, as was done with Zyklon-B. But there were no problems with the method the Nazis used; it worked quite well.

As the Nazis found out soon enough, the bottleneck in the extermination process was the incineration of the bodies, not the gassing itself. A thousand people could be killed in a matter of minutes, or an hour or two at most, counting the entire operation from arrival at the camp to the final ventilation of the gas chamber.

Yet to burn the bodies of those thousand people took quite a long while. Large, expensive furnaces were purchased, and many Reichsmarks were spent on maintaining them, but burning bodies still took at least ten times longer than actually killing people. The Nazis even reduced the size of the gas chambers after they realized that the bottleneck would always be the furnace capacity -- see Gutman et al., Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, 1994, p. 224.)

So the arguments about difficulties with the gassing process, or efficiency of the gas, are just red herrings. See also the appropriate section of the Auschwitz FAQ.

Anyway, if there are supposedly so many gases that are "far more efficient," why doesn't the IHR just name some? Greg Raven was asked to do exactly this in on Usenet in 1994-95, but, after being asked many times, he was only able to state:

Carbon monoxide would be faster than Zyklon B, for example, as would any of numerous nerve gasses.

As has already been explained, the speed of the killing agent is not the bottleneck in the killing process, so saying which gas is "faster" misses the point. That aside, carbon monoxide is not in fact "faster" than HCN, which is one of the fastest-acting poisons there is. See the paper written on the subject for details.

In fact, the Nazis did try using carbon monoxide, in the Action Reinhard camps, and also at Maidanek, where bottled CO and piping apparatus was found. But, as Höss explained in his memoirs, he found the existing methods inefficient and decided to switch to Zyklon-B instead.

"Nerve gasses" is not a specific enough claim to address.

The only other instance of a specific gas being named, that we have yet found, is a laughable demonstration of ignorance. In the so-called "Lüftl Report," Walter Lüftl writes:

Anyone familiar with the danger involved in handling hydrocyanic acid gas (which is explosive and extremely toxic) must wonder why the SS executioners didn't use carbon dioxide gas -- which is easier to handle and completely harmless to the executioner -- to kill the prisoners who were allegedly poisoned with Zyklon.

Any textbook on physiology confirms that in the event of anoxia (oxygen deprivation), disturbances of brain functioning appear after five seconds, followed by unconsciousness after 15 seconds, and brain death after five minutes. This is how animals are put to sleep, painlessly and surely. It also works with people.

This is sheer stupidity. Carbon dioxide simply asphyxiates its victims, drowning them in oxygenless air. Unconsciousness would take much longer than fifteen seconds. Death would not be painless, it would be about as painful as strangling or drowning. And carbon dioxide must be transported compressed in bottles, since "dry ice" cannot be sublimated quickly enough to kill anyone.

How many bottles of carbon dioxide would it take to completely replace the normal, oxygenated air in a gas chamber? How much would it cost to transport and refill these bottles? Wouldn't it be easier to use a small amount of a poison that must only achieve a few hundred parts per million to be deadly, instead of having to reach a concentration sufficient to displace the oxygen from the air?

In fact, Friedrich Berg, dismisses carbon dioxide in another article published by the IHR, and available on Greg Raven's web site:

Carbon dioxide is not really any more poisonous than ordinary water. Most toxicology handbooks do not even mention it. When mentioned at all, it is generally classified as a "non-toxic, simple asphyxiant."

So this is another internal contradiction.

The "Lüftl Report," is available on-line in a textfile on Nizkor, or as a web page at Greg Raven's web site. Search on the text "physiology".​

 

[Phoenall]

But this still does not alter the fact that the Pakistani muslim men in the UK were acting on the commands of their religion

As were the Jews, as proven by all the Jewish cover ups of Jew perverts.

When it reaches the level of the current investigations under way in the UK then you can say that, but while it is just used as a smokescreen to hide the truth about islam then I will keep pointing out that it is a major problem for islam all over the world. If 21% of the adult muslim Pakistani men in one British town are known to be practising child rape then there is a serious problem. Do 21% of any other groups adult male population get their crimes covered up like the Pakistani muslims did ?

 

[Phoenall]

@Phoenall 15000 Jews died in Belsen after liberation and you you fucking animal blame the liberators.

So you admit to half the truth but stall at putting the blame were it belongs. Do you know what the treatment for Typhus/typhoid is half wit, a good bath in a pesticide ( like zyklon b or magnesium cyanide ) and clean clothes. So why did the British not do this from day one, why did they wait for so long. Why did the doctors want to treat their own and leave the Jews and Gypsies to die, was it down to their ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED.

I see you had no comment on the fake evidence used to convict German soldiers of war crimes at Nuremburg that was known to be false. The Russian prosecutors knew there were never any gas chambers at Auschwitz but still used their existence to execute Germans. The American prosecutors knew there were no gas chambers at Belsen but still used their existence and the fact that 20,000 Jews were gassed in one night to prosecute Germans. So you are no better than the Nazi's and ISLAMONAZI's when you perpetuate the false claims just so you can have your revenge.

More GOYIMONAZI hogwash from a pathetic anti Semite read this link you Nazi Drek How to Refute Holocaust Denial Jewish Virtual Library
Lies. Zyklon-B was used partly because it is extremely efficient at killing people. True, there are other gases that are comparably efficient. However, Zyklon-B was unique in that it also had these two advantages:

It was easy to pack, store and transport -- it could be ordered from an ordinary chemical company, and came in sealed tins.

It was widely available, as it was used for delousing. In fact, probably over 90% of the Zyklon used at Auschwitz was used for delousing purposes. See e.g. Gutman, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, 1994, p. 215.

As noted in the answer to question 28, it is extremely efficient for mass murder. In fact, HCN, the gas released by Zyklon-B, is used today to execute condemned people in the United States.

In fairness, it should be pointed out that today's execution gas chambers generate HCN by chemical reaction, not by simply allowing it to evaporate, as was done with Zyklon-B. But there were no problems with the method the Nazis used; it worked quite well.

As the Nazis found out soon enough, the bottleneck in the extermination process was the incineration of the bodies, not the gassing itself. A thousand people could be killed in a matter of minutes, or an hour or two at most, counting the entire operation from arrival at the camp to the final ventilation of the gas chamber.

Yet to burn the bodies of those thousand people took quite a long while. Large, expensive furnaces were purchased, and many Reichsmarks were spent on maintaining them, but burning bodies still took at least ten times longer than actually killing people. The Nazis even reduced the size of the gas chambers after they realized that the bottleneck would always be the furnace capacity -- see Gutman et al., Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, 1994, p. 224.)

So the arguments about difficulties with the gassing process, or efficiency of the gas, are just red herrings. See also the appropriate section of the Auschwitz FAQ.

Anyway, if there are supposedly so many gases that are "far more efficient," why doesn't the IHR just name some? Greg Raven was asked to do exactly this in on Usenet in 1994-95, but, after being asked many times, he was only able to state:

Carbon monoxide would be faster than Zyklon B, for example, as would any of numerous nerve gasses.

As has already been explained, the speed of the killing agent is not the bottleneck in the killing process, so saying which gas is "faster" misses the point. That aside, carbon monoxide is not in fact "faster" than HCN, which is one of the fastest-acting poisons there is. See the paper written on the subject for details.

In fact, the Nazis did try using carbon monoxide, in the Action Reinhard camps, and also at Maidanek, where bottled CO and piping apparatus was found. But, as Höss explained in his memoirs, he found the existing methods inefficient and decided to switch to Zyklon-B instead.

"Nerve gasses" is not a specific enough claim to address.

The only other instance of a specific gas being named, that we have yet found, is a laughable demonstration of ignorance. In the so-called "Lüftl Report," Walter Lüftl writes:

Anyone familiar with the danger involved in handling hydrocyanic acid gas (which is explosive and extremely toxic) must wonder why the SS executioners didn't use carbon dioxide gas -- which is easier to handle and completely harmless to the executioner -- to kill the prisoners who were allegedly poisoned with Zyklon.

Any textbook on physiology confirms that in the event of anoxia (oxygen deprivation), disturbances of brain functioning appear after five seconds, followed by unconsciousness after 15 seconds, and brain death after five minutes. This is how animals are put to sleep, painlessly and surely. It also works with people.

This is sheer stupidity. Carbon dioxide simply asphyxiates its victims, drowning them in oxygenless air. Unconsciousness would take much longer than fifteen seconds. Death would not be painless, it would be about as painful as strangling or drowning. And carbon dioxide must be transported compressed in bottles, since "dry ice" cannot be sublimated quickly enough to kill anyone.

How many bottles of carbon dioxide would it take to completely replace the normal, oxygenated air in a gas chamber? How much would it cost to transport and refill these bottles? Wouldn't it be easier to use a small amount of a poison that must only achieve a few hundred parts per million to be deadly, instead of having to reach a concentration sufficient to displace the oxygen from the air?

In fact, Friedrich Berg, dismisses carbon dioxide in another article published by the IHR, and available on Greg Raven's web site:

Carbon dioxide is not really any more poisonous than ordinary water. Most toxicology handbooks do not even mention it. When mentioned at all, it is generally classified as a "non-toxic, simple asphyxiant."

So this is another internal contradiction.

The "Lüftl Report," is available on-line in a textfile on Nizkor, or as a web page at Greg Raven's web site. Search on the text "physiology".​

Still no comment on the Russians admitting to having built the gas chambers in Auschwitz AFTER THE WAR because there were never any there. You do know that cymag ( zyklon b ) turns everything blue don't you, and the alleged gas chamber was pristine brick. You do know that the doors were hung wrong so they opened in over, so you could not open the doors for bodies. You do know that the roof vents were not sealed and if the amounts used of zyklon b were correct they would have killed everything within 6 miles of the camp. Now once again how did 20,000 Jews get gassed and disposed of in one night at Belsen if there were never any gas chambers.

All that you spout is the allied propaganda used to convict the enemy in revenge for WW2.

 

[irosie91]

But this still does not alter the fact that the Pakistani muslim men in the UK were acting on the commands of their religion

As were the Jews, as proven by all the Jewish cover ups of Jew perverts.

When it reaches the level of the current investigations under way in the UK then you can say that, but while it is just used as a smokescreen to hide the truth about islam then I will keep pointing out that it is a major problem for islam all over the world. If 21% of the adult muslim Pakistani men in one British town are known to be practising child rape then there is a serious problem. Do 21% of any other groups adult male population get their crimes covered up like the Pakistani muslims did ?

try to cope with reality------"RAPE" as defined in Islamic jurisprudence refers to
sexual acts committed by men UPON WOMEN WITH whom a man has no legal
right to have sex. ---in general that means a women in the POSSESSION of another man---a husband, -----or a father or a brother or some other legal
guardian. Non muslim women are not ILLEGAL objects of sex for muslim men--in Islamic lands------the LOCAL ruler can bring a case against a muslim who has
forced sex with a woman under his rule-----but that is about it--------it usually does
not happen

 

[flacaltenn]

Moderation Message:

I don't know how it got put into play, but this
side discussion about gas chambers is bad
interference for the primary topic.
Can you take it elsewhere? Please !

FlaCalTenn

 

[Vikrant]

It is 'nice' to see so many Nick Griffin fans in here. But remember this it is my man David Cameron who is taking care of this mess. No PM before him had balls to tackle this issue.