Uighur Muslims in China want Freedom and Democracy

[Nik]

That's pretty much what the Obama Menstruation and the MSM said. The Uighers are peaceful, non-violent, etc. Looks like they either lied, were uninformed, are fuckwits, or all of the above doesn't it.

No. They said the Uighurs we held at Guantanamo Bay were nonviolent. Nobody was describing the attitudes of an entire race of people, fuckwit.

They were. They were describing the entire Uighur sect. Sweet, non-violent, peaceful, harmless, misunderstood folks who just happened to have all those black sheep training with terrorists at Tora Bora.

It's no wonder you are so stupid and ignorant, because you don't pay attention.

Please provide a link to Obama or his administration saying that.

Good luck with that.

 

[mightypeon]

Just some pointers:

-Uighurs are not a sect. They are an ethnic minority (like lets say, Hispanics in the US), however, there are about 16 Million Uighurs and around 900 million Han.

-Uighurs tend to be Alewites if they are Muslim, usually Alewites are not as "KILL ZE INFIDELS" as f.e. Wahhabites (equate Wahhabites with a Moslem version of Ann-Coulter style Christianity and there you go)

-Actually, beeing a part of an ethnic minority in China has some advantadges:
--You are exempt of the "one child" policy
--If you and a Han have equal grades in the "university access" seminars, you get the study place
--They have a fair bit of autonomy regarding their schools (which backfired in their case, Uighur public schools teach too much koran and not enough Mandarin)
--It is not as if using your own language is in any way prohibited, however (like in any other country), refusal to speak the "main language" leads to really bad job chances.

Given that there are already more Han then Uighurs in the province in question, precisly what is China supposed to do? Make its own population a ethnic minority in some kind of Uighuristan (not that states ending with Stan tend to be hugely successfull in general)?

 

[alan1]

So all Uighurs act the same, MM?

Fuckwit.

That's pretty much what the Obama Menstruation and the MSM said. The Uighers are peaceful, non-violent, etc. Looks like they either lied, were uninformed, are fuckwits, or all of the above doesn't it.

No. They said the Uighurs we held at Guantanamo Bay were nonviolent. Nobody was describing the attitudes of an entire race of people, fuckwit.

I'm sure they ended up in Guantanamo by accident. Probably as they were helping little old ladies across the street or something.

 

[Sunni Man]

That's pretty much what the Obama Menstruation and the MSM said. The Uighers are peaceful, non-violent, etc. Looks like they either lied, were uninformed, are fuckwits, or all of the above doesn't it.

No. They said the Uighurs we held at Guantanamo Bay were nonviolent. Nobody was describing the attitudes of an entire race of people, fuckwit.

I'm sure they ended up in Guantanamo by accident. Probably as they were helping little old ladies across the street or something.

Actually, they had gone to Afghanistan to attend religous school and were rounded up because they were foreigners.

They were never charged with any crime.

 

[alan1]

No. They said the Uighurs we held at Guantanamo Bay were nonviolent. Nobody was describing the attitudes of an entire race of people, fuckwit.

I'm sure they ended up in Guantanamo by accident. Probably as they were helping little old ladies across the street or something.

Actually, they had gone to Afghanistan to attend religous school and were rounded up because they were foreigners.

They were never charged with any crime.

It's not like anybody else in Guantanamo Bay is facing trial. (Well, maybe a few)

 

[Nik]

That's pretty much what the Obama Menstruation and the MSM said. The Uighers are peaceful, non-violent, etc. Looks like they either lied, were uninformed, are fuckwits, or all of the above doesn't it.

No. They said the Uighurs we held at Guantanamo Bay were nonviolent. Nobody was describing the attitudes of an entire race of people, fuckwit.

I'm sure they ended up in Guantanamo by accident. Probably as they were helping little old ladies across the street or something.

They did, dipshit. They were in Afghanistan and some locals turned them in for a bounty.

 

[Nik]

I'm sure they ended up in Guantanamo by accident. Probably as they were helping little old ladies across the street or something.

Actually, they had gone to Afghanistan to attend religous school and were rounded up because they were foreigners.

They were never charged with any crime.

It's not like anybody else in Guantanamo Bay is facing trial. (Well, maybe a few)

How many others were ordered released by a rightwing Republican judge who thought that holding them was obviously and blatantly ridiculous?

There was ZERO evidence against these guys. ZERO.

 

[alan1]

No. They said the Uighurs we held at Guantanamo Bay were nonviolent. Nobody was describing the attitudes of an entire race of people, fuckwit.

I'm sure they ended up in Guantanamo by accident. Probably as they were helping little old ladies across the street or something.

They did, dipshit. They were in Afghanistan and some locals turned them in for a bounty.

Just like everybody else in Guantanamo.

 

[Nik]

I'm sure they ended up in Guantanamo by accident. Probably as they were helping little old ladies across the street or something.

They did, dipshit. They were in Afghanistan and some locals turned them in for a bounty.

Just like everybody else in Guantanamo.

Incorrect. If you want a "debate" how bout you not lie, fuckwit?

 

[alan1]

They did, dipshit. They were in Afghanistan and some locals turned them in for a bounty.

Just like everybody else in Guantanamo.

Incorrect. If you want a "debate" how bout you not lie, fuckwit?

Yawn.

 

[editec]

Salami Jihad???

Are they fighting with sausages???

No, it is a narrative tool to make it understood they are carving up the country one neighborhood at a time and launching jihad in the neighboring areas thus making those areas blighted forcing out none muslims.

Remember evil communism and the "domino theory"

Wonder what ever happened to the dominos?

They're most favored trade partners making our sneakers for us, now.

FWIW I fear the Islamic terrorists now, just about as much as I feared the communist takeover back then, too.

It's a fucking bullshit, folks.

 

[Nik]

Just like everybody else in Guantanamo.

Incorrect. If you want a "debate" how bout you not lie, fuckwit?

Yawn.

If you want me to not call you names, don't lie. Dipshit.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Salami Jihad???

Are they fighting with sausages???

No, it is a narrative tool to make it understood they are carving up the country one neighborhood at a time and launching jihad in the neighboring areas thus making those areas blighted forcing out none muslims.

Remember evil communism and the "domino theory"

Wonder what ever happened to the dominos?

So now I guess we explain the world using "sausage theory"?? LOL!!!

The USA is one of the dominos that is falling.

 

[Fatality]

No. They said the Uighurs we held at Guantanamo Bay were nonviolent. Nobody was describing the attitudes of an entire race of people, fuckwit.

I'm sure they ended up in Guantanamo by accident. Probably as they were helping little old ladies across the street or something.

Actually, they had gone to Afghanistan to attend religous school and were rounded up because they were foreigners.

They were never charged with any crime.

rounded up at the murder center huh?

 

[GHook93]

The Uighurs people want freedom for their people and land from the Chinese.

The Chinese government treats them with the same iron fist that it uses in Tibet.

Why is so little media coverage given to these peoples cultural and ethnic genocide?

Why did the American people rush to show support of the Iranian people, but totally ignore the Uighur Chinese??

Same reason you focus only on Israel and not on the horredous acts of Muslims on others, like in Sudan, Somolia, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan (esp during the Taliban years)!

 

[ekrem]

Uyghur's are muslims doing what muslims do, live in "ghettos"and launch salami jihad against the larger society causing unrest claiming they deserve independence. Carving out tracts of land for the host country.

Host country?

Uighurs have lived in China for hundreds of years. That is their home. They deserve to be treated equally with Han Chinese.

Besides Turkey there was not much solidarity with the Uygurs. An explanation from the Economist:



Turkey has long been a haven for disaffected Uighurs, including Isa Yusuf Alptekin, the pre-eminent leader of Uighur nationalism until his death in 1995. To China’s fury, Mr Erdogan, when mayor of Istanbul, named part of a central park after Alptekin in the 1990s.
(...)
Mr Erdogan has offered a visa to Rebiya Kadeer, a Uighur exile accused by China of fomenting Xinjiang’s violence.
The Uighurs, Central Asia and Turkey: Troubles across Turkestan | The Economist

That's it the Uyghurs like the Tibetians are in a helpless situation.
Besides rhetoric there is no way of help, economic interests dominate in this world.

 

[Charles Stucker]

The Uighurs people want freedom for their people and land from the Chinese.

The Chinese government treats them with the same iron fist that it uses in Tibet.

Why is so little media coverage given to these peoples cultural and ethnic genocide?

Why did the American people rush to show support of the Iranian people, but totally ignore the Uighur Chinese??

Perhaps the Islamic governments could have freedom and democracy, including freedom of religion in their own areas before demanding it of everyone else