Uh Oh!!: Tim Adams, Chief Elections Clerk in Hawaii says Obama wasn't born there.

[Immanuel]

Let's say that by some miraculous chance he was born in Kenya or wherever it is that the crazies are claiming he was born......I would have still voted for that "Kenyan" over having Palin one step away from being POTUS.

So let me get this straight. If it were true that Obama was born in Kenya and was knowingly attempting to break the laws of this country for some unknown reason, you still would have voted for him?

Do you realize that there is a valid reason that the Constitution puts the requirement that one must be born in the states to be eligible for the Presidency? It has something to do with LOYALTY to one's country of origin. You would risk that loyalty on someone you already know is breaking the law for some unknown reason? Would you also have voted for him knowing he was born in say Iran?

Immie

 

[Defiant1]

I know at the major university here that this issue is taught as a case study in the government classes. The conclusion is that illegitimate organizations such as the birthers are dedicated to the overthrow of constitutional, electoral processes, and try to pervert the system in order to promote anti-American agendas for the purpose of power.

Who told you that, Saul Alinsky?

The department head, who is a Reaganite to the bone.

Intense, those who are birthers are wrong, flatly and completely and forever.

You're right. The birther thing is getting boring anyway. Can we get back to how he likes to suck cock and take it up the ass when he's high on cocaine?

 

[Intense]

I know at the major university here that this issue is taught as a case study in the government classes. The conclusion is that illegitimate organizations such as the birthers are dedicated to the overthrow of constitutional, electoral processes, and try to pervert the system in order to promote anti-American agendas for the purpose of power.

Who told you that, Saul Alinsky?

The department head, who is a Reaganite to the bone.

Intense, those who are birthers are wrong, flatly and completely and forever.

The only thing here I see as Un American is progressive statist censorship, which is obsessed with killing the messenger.

 

[RDD_1210]

Let's say that by some miraculous chance he was born in Kenya or wherever it is that the crazies are claiming he was born......I would have still voted for that "Kenyan" over having Palin one step away from being POTUS.

So let me get this straight. If it were true that Obama was born in Kenya and was knowingly attempting to break the laws of this country for some unknown reason, you still would have voted for him?

Do you realize that there is a valid reason that the Constitution puts the requirement that one must be born in the states to be eligible for the Presidency? It has something to do with LOYALTY to one's country of origin. You would risk that loyalty on someone you already know is breaking the law for some unknown reason? Would you also have voted for him knowing he was born in say Iran?

Immie

You realize I was being dramatic, right? To the same extreme that birthers are going.

And don't give me a speech about loyalty on a board where over half the members call our own president a communist and an enemy. That's some loyalty for you.

 

[Papageorgio]

Those that believe he wasn't born in Hawaii are just as nutty as those that believed Bush wasn't a legit President, in 2000 and 2004. Just a waste of time.

 

[Immanuel]

Let's say that by some miraculous chance he was born in Kenya or wherever it is that the crazies are claiming he was born......I would have still voted for that "Kenyan" over having Palin one step away from being POTUS.

So let me get this straight. If it were true that Obama was born in Kenya and was knowingly attempting to break the laws of this country for some unknown reason, you still would have voted for him?

Do you realize that there is a valid reason that the Constitution puts the requirement that one must be born in the states to be eligible for the Presidency? It has something to do with LOYALTY to one's country of origin. You would risk that loyalty on someone you already know is breaking the law for some unknown reason? Would you also have voted for him knowing he was born in say Iran?

Immie

You realize I was being dramatic, right? To the same extreme that birthers are going.

And don't give me a speech about loyalty on a board where over half the members call our own president a communist and an enemy. That's some loyalty for you.

No, I did not realize you were being dramatic or even sarcastic. It doesn't always come through on a post.

Well, our President does have socialistic tendencies, but I would then have to ask, what compassionate human being doesn't have some tendencies of varying degrees to want to help the poor and needy. Even though I consider myself to be conservative. I believe that many of our Social Programs need to be updated so as to actually help the needy as in a hand up not a hand out. I would say that means that I too have socialistic tendencies. The question would be to what degree do we have those tendencies.

I have never called him the enemy at least not in the sense that you mean. I suppose I might have called him the enemy as I would call any politician (Republican or Democrat) "the enemy" because I believe that the scumbags we have in elected positions in Washington are "the enemy". They are the enemy of our freedoms.

Immie

 

[Care4all]

Credibility is not one of your strong points, Ted.

Listen to the interview....

Tim Adams, contracted temporary Chief Elections Clerk in Honolulu during the November 2008 Presidential Election, states that the records of Hawaii THEN SHOWED that Barack Obama was NOT born in Hawaii AND notes also that there were relevant records of interest stolen in or around the time period after this discovery as well.

do you have a credible link as proof and credible reporting that documents were stolen?

 

[Intense]

Credibility is not one of your strong points, Ted.

Listen to the interview....

Tim Adams, contracted temporary Chief Elections Clerk in Honolulu during the November 2008 Presidential Election, states that the records of Hawaii THEN SHOWED that Barack Obama was NOT born in Hawaii AND notes also that there were relevant records of interest stolen in or around the time period after this discovery as well.

do you have a credible link as proof and credible reporting that documents were stolen?

Bush did it!!!

 

[JakeStarkey]

It would be very easy to get rid of all the birthers......... all the Dickbreath-In-Chief would need to do is show the actual birth certificate to the world( he showed the obviously fake Certificate of Live Birth, why not the real Birth Certificate?)why fabricate a document..... poorly........ I wonder why he doesn't do that? Seems it would be a great way for him to kick someone's ass or at least say something else inappropriate for a President. Aren't all of you people a little curious?

Do you have any idea how they do it in Hawaii? Yo dont have a clue do you.

Birthers, keep it up. You are making your party look like idiots!

Dickbreath indeed.

Is english a second language for you zonie? Yea dickbreath, you should be intimately familiar to the smell of that, dumb fuck. Of course you are no doubt more familiar with the smell of Obama's ass since you keep your nose so firmly planted up his.

In other words, you have nothing relevant to offer. You are irrelevant.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Who told you that, Saul Alinsky?

The department head, who is a Reaganite to the bone.

Intense, those who are birthers are wrong, flatly and completely and forever.

The only thing here I see as Un American is progressive statist censorship, which is obsessed with killing the messenger.

What I see are unbalanced, crazy-talk messengers and defenders (like you) who are obsessed with losing to Obama. Son, get over it, this is a done deal, and your goose is cooked.

 

[del]

It would be very easy to get rid of all the birthers......... all the Dickbreath-In-Chief would need to do is show the actual birth certificate to the world( he showed the obviously fake Certificate of Live Birth, why not the real Birth Certificate?)why fabricate a document..... poorly........ I wonder why he doesn't do that? Seems it would be a great way for him to kick someone's ass or at least say something else inappropriate for a President. Aren't all of you people a little curious?

Do you have any idea how they do it in Hawaii? Yo dont have a clue do you.

Birthers, keep it up. You are making your party look like idiots!

Dickbreath indeed.

Is english a second language for you zonie? Yea dickbreath, you should be intimately familiar to the smell of that, dumb fuck. Of course you are no doubt more familiar with the smell of Obama's ass since you keep your nose so firmly planted up his.

i remember when george bush went on tv to show his birth certificate

oh, wait, i don't. i wonder why no one insisted on it?

 

[Coyote]

The Birthers are back, again.

Born again birthers.....kind of like the undead. You can't quite get rid of them.

 

[Defiant1]

Do you have any idea how they do it in Hawaii? Yo dont have a clue do you.

Birthers, keep it up. You are making your party look like idiots!

Dickbreath indeed.

Is english a second language for you zonie? Yea dickbreath, you should be intimately familiar to the smell of that, dumb fuck. Of course you are no doubt more familiar with the smell of Obama's ass since you keep your nose so firmly planted up his.

i remember when george bush went on tv to show his birth certificate

oh, wait, i don't. i wonder why no one insisted on it?

If there had been any doubt at the time I'm sure Dan Rather would have fabricated something.

 

[geauxtohell]

I know at the major university here that this issue is taught as a case study in the government classes. The conclusion is that illegitimate organizations such as the birthers are dedicated to the overthrow of constitutional, electoral processes, and try to pervert the system in order to promote anti-American agendas for the purpose of power.

And there it is.

The fucking truth.

 

[geauxtohell]

Link to these accusations?

Fukino (Dr. Chiyome Fukino, DOH Director) said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State - Politics News Story - KITV Honolulu

Game, set, fucking match.

Director of Health >>>>>>>> Part-time putz employee whose job description has nothing to do with verifying Obama's place of birth.

If Obama were a registered voter in the State of Hawaii, then this might make some sort of sense, and even then it's a massive stretch since it comflicts with Dr. Fukino's official statement.

However, this jackass was a low-level clown whose sole job was to verify voter registration. I doubt he even had access to the paper records.

Of course, since you are a birther, I predict your next move will be to claim that Dr. Fukino is in on the conspiracy.

 

[RDD_1210]

Link to these accusations?

Fukino (Dr. Chiyome Fukino, DOH Director) said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State - Politics News Story - KITV Honolulu

Game, set, fucking match.

Director of Health >>>>>>>> Part-time putz employee whose job description has nothing to do with verifying Obama's place of birth.

If Obama were a registered voter in the State of Hawaii, then this might make some sort of sense, and even then it's a massive stretch since it comflicts with Dr. Fukino's official statement.

However, this jackass was a low-level clown whose sole job was to verify voter registration. I doubt he even had access to the paper records.

Of course, since you are a birther, I predict your next move will be to claim that Dr. Fukino is in on the conspiracy.

C'mon now, everyone knows that KITV-ABC is a liberal news channel that can't be trusted.

 

[beowolfe]

I'll bet none of you even asked yourselves, why now? Why not when he had the job and could have disqualified him from the hawaii ballot? Naw.........that would make too much sense for you to do that.

Actually, IF (and that's a stretch) he's telling the truth, you should really be pissed off at him for not doing his job.

 

[Immanuel]

I'll bet none of you even asked yourselves, why now? Why not when he had the job and could have disqualified him from the hawaii ballot? Naw.........that would make too much sense for you to do that.

Actually, IF (and that's a stretch) he's telling the truth, you should really be pissed off at him for not doing his job.

You are right, I didn't ask. I filed the entire article in the trash bin where it belonged the minute I saw where it was going. I would have had to have given it some credibility to have gone as far as to have asked such a question.

Immie

 

[DiveCon]

Another kooky fucking birther. Thanks for bringing that Stormfront shit over here. Way to fly the shithead flag, Ted.

We do certainly seem to have a couple Storm Front members here.

They are usually more sneaky about their affiliations.

Hey, if someone wants to belong to a neo nazi movement and be a goose-stepping bastard, that's their prerogative.

Just don't expect me to lend any credence to it.

yup and its better for the rest of us when they ANNOUNCE it openly

 

[DiveCon]

There always has to be some one out there that tries to spoil some fun!!

Avatar! Quit trying to ruin the party with reality... please!

Immie

LMAO

Jeeze. I sure wish folks would give this birther BS a funeral and lower it about 6 feet down.

Hell. We could even have a little party for it. Ice Cream and cake. LOL

What, and attract Fred Phelps? No thank you.

well, the up side to that is he wouldnt be bothering and soldiers families when they are having funerals for the lost