Discussion in 'Politics' started by Political Junky, Jul 18, 2016.
No doubt I seem VERY old from your perspective of 13 years of life...
YOU asked me why I was still talking about Melania's speech? Lol. I don't think the right running to defend their candidate is all that shocking. Both sides do it.
I actually researched the reactions and media coverage of Melania's plagiarism by seeing the effect in her home country and nearby eastern European nations as portrayed in regional media, both English speaking and Russian speaking.
Small countries take great pride when one of their celebrities gains international attention and fame. Melania has been such a celebrity since before ever meeting Trump. She has now become an embarrassment and is being mocked. The populations are not so different over there than they are here. When a celebrity messes up the media and people jump on it and turn it into a bigger scandal than it probably deserves, but a negative scandal all the same. Melania is being viewed in a whole different light now in the country she comes from, and it isn't a good light. A big story over there now is that she lied about her education besides the plagiarism story.
Melania isn't a candidate.
But since the campaign behind her brought her to the stage, yeah those partisans will jump in to defend IT. IT after all is what's under the microscope here, not her. And again this is where the denialism of, in the main, the campaign manager and Rumpbot Nation come in. They can't acknowledge it even after their own staff has acknowledged it. That's a story in itself.
I still think she may be innocent of consciously plagiarizing. As I noted before, a bigly event speech like this is always rehearsed, repeatedly, in the hotel room, on the stage, with a coach managing phrases and cadence and eye movements and stage lighting. If she's the one who brought the original lines in, and then stood up for rehearsals reading those same lines ------ then it should have occurred to her during those rehearsals that the lines had not been rephrased and they were still there as raw material. At that point you go, "did this get worked yet?" and fix it. And it would have been a point of embarrassment for the speechwriter for almost hanging her out to dry with the plagiarized lines.
That's why I have my doubts about the story that she brought the lines in. She may have been entirely unaware of them. That leaves open the question of how they actually did get in there, but it also means she may have been in effect set up.
Yeah, I don't think she wrote that speech, at least not on her own.
You know, I really don't care that Trump's wife lifted several paragraphs of her speech from Mrs. Obama's. It happens.
However.....................the Trump campaign should have said "oops, we goofed and didn't properly vet her speech" when they were caught, not deny it for several days, and then finally admit it when their feet were held to the fire.
But............they denied it. Like I said, I'm not concerned with Mrs. Trump, but if Donald is going to lie in his campaign about something so inconsequential rather than admit a mistake, what else is he willing to lie about?
If you will lie for something small, you will lie for something big.
Now you have zero right to be angry at Trump about his comments. Let this post be out there for all to see.
i keep looking in that post but I'm not seeing any bragging about sexual assault... can you point it out?
Nothing like that. Such demeaning terminology towards a woman. Hatred and indifference to women can manifest itself in many ways. Lakhota's post is one of them. Behold the misogynist she is.
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