Uh oh, global warming loons: here comes Climategate II!

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    Uh oh, global warming loons: here comes Climategate II! – Telegraph Blogs

    Breaking news: two years after the Climategate, a further batch of emails has been leaked onto the internet by a person – or persons – unknown. And as before, they show the "scientists" at the heart of the Man-Made Global Warming industry in a most unflattering light. Michael Mann, Phil Jones, Ben Santer, Tom Wigley, Kevin Trenberth, Keith Briffa – all your favourite Climategate characters are here, once again caught red-handed in a series of emails exaggerating the extent of Anthropogenic Global Warming, while privately admitting to one another that the evidence is nowhere near as a strong as they'd like it to be.

    In other words, what these emails confirm is that the great man-made global warming scare is not about science but about political activism. This, it seems, is what motivated the whistleblower 'FOIA 2011' (or "thief", as the usual suspects at RealClimate will no doubt prefer to tar him or her) to go public.

    As FOIA 2011 puts it when introducing the selected highlights, culled from a file of 220,000 emails:

    “Over 2.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day.”

    “Every day nearly 16.000 children die from hunger and related causes.”

    “One dollar can save a life” — the opposite must also be true.

    “Poverty is a death sentence.”

    “Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilize
    greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels.”

    Today’s decisions should be based on all the information we can get, not on
    hiding the decline.

    FOIA 2011 is right, of course. If you're going to bomb the global economy back to the dark ages with environmental tax and regulation, if you're going to favour costly, landscape-blighting, inefficient renewables over real, abundant, relatively cheap energy that works like shale gas and oil, if you're going to cause food riots and starvation in the developing world by giving over farmland (and rainforests) to biofuel production, then at the very least you it owe to the world to base your policies on sound, transparent, evidence-based science rather than on the politicised, disingenuous junk churned out by the charlatans at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

    You'll find the full taster menu of delights here at Tall Bloke's website. Shrub Niggurath is on the case too. As is the Air Vent.

    I particularly like the ones expressing deep reservations about the narrative put about by the IPCC:

    /// The IPCC Process ///

    <1939> Thorne/MetO:

    Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical
    troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a
    wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the
    uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these
    further if necessary [...]

    <3066> Thorne:

    I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it
    which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run.

    <1611> Carter:

    It seems that a few people have a very strong say, and no matter how much
    talking goes on beforehand, the big decisions are made at the eleventh hour by
    a select core group.

    <2884> Wigley:

    Mike, The Figure you sent is very deceptive [...] there have been a number of
    dishonest presentations of model results by individual authors and by IPCC [...]

    <4755> Overpeck:

    The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guid[e] what’s
    included and what is left out.

    <3456> Overpeck:

    I agree w/ Susan [Solomon] that we should try to put more in the bullet about
    “Subsequent evidence” [...] Need to convince readers that there really has been
    an increase in knowledge – more evidence. What is it?

    And here's our friend Phil Jones, apparently trying to stuff the IPCC working groups with scientists favourable to his cause, while shutting out dissenting voices.

    <0714> Jones:

    Getting people we know and trust [into IPCC] is vital – hence my comment about
    the tornadoes group.

    <3205> Jones:

    Useful ones [for IPCC] might be Baldwin, Benestad (written on the solar/cloud
    issue – on the right side, i.e anti-Svensmark), Bohm, Brown, Christy (will be
    have to involve him ?)

    Here is what looks like an outrageous case of government – the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs – actually putting pressure on climate "scientists" to talk up their message of doom and gloom in order to help the government justify its swingeing climate policies:

    <2495> Humphrey/DEFRA:

    I can’t overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a
    message that the Government can give on climate change to help them tell their
    story. They want the story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made
    to look foolish.

    Here is a gloriously revealing string of emails in which activists and global warming research groups discuss how best to manipulate reality so that climate change looks more scary and dangerous than it really is:

    <3655> Singer/WWF:

    we as an NGO working on climate policy need such a document pretty soon for the
    public and for informed decision makers in order to get a) a debate started and
    b) in order to get into the media the context between climate
    extremes/desasters/costs and finally the link between weather extremes and
    energy

    <0445> Torok/CSIRO:

    [...] idea of looking at the implications of climate change for what he termed
    “global icons” [...] One of these suggested icons was the Great Barrier Reef [...]
    It also became apparent that there was always a local “reason” for the
    destruction – cyclones, starfish, fertilizers [...] A perception of an
    “unchanging” environment leads people to generate local explanations for coral
    loss based on transient phenomena, while not acknowledging the possibility of
    systematic damage from long-term climatic/environmental change [...] Such a
    project could do a lot to raise awareness of threats to the reef from climate
    change

    <4141> Minns/Tyndall Centre:

    In my experience, global warming freezing is already a bit of a public
    relations problem with the media

    Kjellen:

    I agree with Nick that climate change might be a better labelling than global
    warming

    Pierrehumbert:

    What kind of circulation change could lock Europe into deadly summer heat waves
    like that of last summer? That’s the sort of thing we need to think about.

    I'll have a deeper dig through the emails this afternoon and see what else I come up with. If I were a climate activist off to COP 17 in Durban later this month, I don't think I'd be feeling a very happy little drowning Polie, right now. In fact I might be inclined to think that the game was well and truly up.
     
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    I head about this earlier. East Anglia and these perps are in BOHICA * mode again. :lol::eusa_whistle:


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    Hide the decline

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqc7PCJ-nc]Hide the decline - satire on global warming alarmists - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Who is "WE"? Gotta frog in yer pocket?

    AGW doesn't exist. It's nothing but pure human vanity...based on a flailing premise for political control over others...
     
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    As soon as I saw Telegraph blogs I knew just knew this had to be James. I adore Delingpole. He's the funniest anti climate change blogger on the planet.

    I fell into him a few years back and immediately fell in love.

    Haven't been keeping up with him lately because I am still in semi gloss hell (for those that don't know I am painting the house for the millionth time trying to cover over for the last time in my life yellow enamel paint. And yes, this is why you get a lovely house at a bargain. The old man who lived here before me had a smoke fire and the real estate agent in his wisdom painted over the smoke damage with yellow acrylic. I have spent the past 3 years as the yellow keeps seeping thru my original paint job, feeling like a stamen in a daffodil. Ok bitched enough. Back to topic.)

    I love James and thank you for posting this.
     
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    :lol:

    lo and behold 40 posts and a sea of red under your rep power leads me to believe you have issues.
     
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    TD,
    About that paint; did you try priming over it with Killz or something similar? That will generally stop color from bleeding through.
     

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