Uh oh, cutting energy use may raise carbon emissions.

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Jan 23, 2010
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A recent alarming article on the environment seen through the eyes of the great Mark Steyn (peace be upon him):

SteynOnline - The sustainability of freedom
Remember the way all those Curly Fry Lightbulbs governments are forcing us to use are going to lead to massive savings in our energy bills? The great Australian wag Tim Blair draws my attention to this story from The Scotsman:

Cutting carbon emissions through reducing energy consumption may not be as effective as it seems, if consumers spend the money they have saved on environmentally unfriendly products, an economic think-tank has warned.

The original article:

Take care cutting carbon, or you may end up using more - Scotsman.com News
A report on energy and pollution from the Fraser of Allander Institute at the University of Strathclyde, in partnership with accountants PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC), has claimed that the "rebound effect" may mean that people who have saved cash through cutting back energy use, or generating their own renewable energy, could use the money to take an extra flight - or splurge it on electrical goods shipped from overseas.

Products that have been transported over a long distance, or which have been made in a factory which has poor standards of carbon emissions, have a high "carbon footprint", the amount of carbon used to make or use the product.

And so and so and so, if some of you A-holes are being friendly to Mother Earth just to save some dough on your energy bill, and then using those savings to buy imported beer well you can just go to Hell. You go to Hell and you die! :lol:

Mark concludes:

So, as the First Church of the Settled Science worshippers would say, just as snowier winters are evidence of global warming, likewise installing environmentally-friendly devices will only increase the rate of environmental devastation.

Clearly the only solution is for Big Government to control every aspect of human existence 24/7.

Sing it brother! :lol:
 
Well now, you underpriveleged goofs in Cincinnati may have to import decent suds, but here in Portland, Oregon, we make the best there is in all varieties.
 
Well now, you underpriveleged goofs in Cincinnati may have to import decent suds, but here in Portland, Oregon, we make the best there is in all varieties.




Wrong. Monteiths out of Nelson New Zealand is the best brewer in the world, bar none. VB from Australia is a very close second. As an Aussie friend of mine put it, "how is drinking American beer like making love in a canoe?, it's fucking close to water!"
 
Best of Oregon beer | Wired Oregon

Portland is home to 32 breweries within its city limits, more than any other city anywhere in the world, according to the OBG. Likewise, Eugene, Bend and several other Oregon cities have become home to several high-quality breweries each. In all, there are 74 brewing companies throughout the state with 102 brewing facilities.

Quantity doesn&#8217;t always mean quality, but when it comes to beer in Oregon, it does: 13 Oregon beers placed at the prestigious 2010 Beer World Cup. Winners of gold included: Shredders Wheat from Barley Brown&#8217;s Brew Pub of Baker City in the American-Style Wheat Beer category; Caldera Rauch Ur Bock from Caldera Brewing Company of Ashland for Smoked Beer; Session Black from Full Sail Brewing Company of Hood River for American-Style Dark Lager; Drop Top from Widmer Brothers Brewing Company of Portland for Ordinary Bitter; Bachelor Bitter from Deschutes Brewery of Bend for Special Bitter or Best Bitter; Outback X from Bend Brewing Company of Bend for Strong Ale.

Hop Valley of Springfield, Rogue Ales of Newport, Hopworks Urban Brewery of Portland, Pelican Pub & Brewery of Pacific City, Caldera Brewing Company of Ashland and Upright Brewing Company of Portland also had beers place in their respective categories. Widmer Brothers Brewing was a double winner, with their ALT taking bronze for German-Style Brown Ale.
 
Portland is home to 32 breweries within its city limits, more than any other city anywhere in the world, according to the OBG. Likewise, Eugene, Bend and several other Oregon cities have become home to several high-quality breweries each. In all, there are 74 brewing companies throughout the state with 102 brewing facilities.

Quantity doesn’t always mean quality, but when it comes to beer in Oregon, it does: 13 Oregon beers placed at the prestigious 2010 Beer World Cup. Winners of gold included: Shredders Wheat from Barley Brown’s Brew Pub of Baker City in the American-Style Wheat Beer category; Caldera Rauch Ur Bock from Caldera Brewing Company of Ashland for Smoked Beer; Session Black from Full Sail Brewing Company of Hood River for American-Style Dark Lager; Drop Top from Widmer Brothers Brewing Company of Portland for Ordinary Bitter; Bachelor Bitter from Deschutes Brewery of Bend for Special Bitter or Best Bitter; Outback X from Bend Brewing Company of Bend for Strong Ale.

Hop Valley of Springfield, Rogue Ales of Newport, Hopworks Urban Brewery of Portland, Pelican Pub & Brewery of Pacific City, Caldera Brewing Company of Ashland and Upright Brewing Company of Portland also had beers place in their respective categories. Widmer Brothers Brewing was a double winner, with their ALT taking bronze for German-Style Brown Ale.

Deschutes is pretty good, I prefer 10-Barrel (Belgian Blonde and Irish Red) and McMenamins (seasonal ales), SilverMoon had a really good pilsner but I think they closed up shop not too long ago. These are all Bend breweries, but I think most of them have Portland outlets as well.
 

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