Uh No - Two al Qaeda Leaders Behind Northwest Bombing Attempt Former Gitmo Prisoners!

[GHook93]

We are releasing these guys, giving them US citizen rights and it has been proven time and time again that they go back to jihad and seek to kill Americans!

Northwest Flight 253: al Qaeda Leaders Behind Terror Plot Were Released by U.S. - ABC News

Two al Qaeda Leaders Behind Northwest Flight 253 Terror Plot Were Released by U.S.
Former Guantanamo Prisoners Believed Behind Northwest Airlines Bomb Plot; Sent to Saudi Arabia in 2007

Two of the four leaders allegedly behind the al Qaeda plot to blow up a Northwest Airlines passenger jet over Detroit were released by the U.S. from the Guantanamo prison in November, 2007, according to American officials and Department of Defense documents. Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the Northwest bombing in a Monday statement that vowed more attacks on Americans.

Authorities investigate Northwest flight 253 on the tarmac at Detroit Metro Airport in Romulus, Michigan December 27, 2009.
(Reuters/U.S. Marshal's Service)American officials agreed to send the two terrorists from Guantanamo to Saudi Arabia where they entered into an "art therapy rehabilitation program" and were set free, according to U.S. and Saudi officials.

Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody. Al-Harbi has since changed his name to Muhamad al-Awfi

 

[Ravi]

If true...Bush fucked up big time.

 

[uscitizen]

As I said from the first, if those put in Gitmo were not terrorists when they went in they will be when they come out.

 

[GHook93]

If true...Bush fucked up big time.

True, but closing Gitmo and giving these foreign combatants access to our civilian courts is still nutz!

 

[GHook93]

As I said from the first, if those put in Gitmo were not terrorists when they went in they will be when they come out.

Of course a liberal would say that! Its backwards thinking and stupidity!

When are you going to abandon your illogical oath to protect Islamic Radicals at all costs. Yes the vast majority of Muslims are good peaceful people, but a large minority of them are poisoned by a radical Islam and you (we) can just stick our heads in the sand and pretent it will go away!

 

[Si modo]

If true...Bush fucked up big time.

True, but closing Gitmo and giving these foreign combatants access to our civilian courts is still nutz!

It's beyond nuts.

 

[Ravi]

If true...Bush fucked up big time.

True, but closing Gitmo and giving these foreign combatants access to our civilian courts is still nutz!

Disagree. They need to be put on trial and punished...not be sent back to where they came from.

 

[Claudette]

If true...Bush fucked up big time.

True, but closing Gitmo and giving these foreign combatants access to our civilian courts is still nutz!

Totally agree. These dirtbags need to be tried in MT's not civilian courts. This IS just nutz.

I guess that BO's crew didn't learn anything from Bush's mistake of relaesing some of the Gitmo detaineee. They all go back and pick up their arms and start fighting and killing again.

I don't know about you, but once is usally enough for me.

 

[toomuchtime_]

We are releasing these guys, giving them US citizen rights and it has been proven time and time again that they go back to jihad and seek to kill Americans!

Northwest Flight 253: al Qaeda Leaders Behind Terror Plot Were Released by U.S. - ABC News

Two al Qaeda Leaders Behind Northwest Flight 253 Terror Plot Were Released by U.S.
Former Guantanamo Prisoners Believed Behind Northwest Airlines Bomb Plot; Sent to Saudi Arabia in 2007

Two of the four leaders allegedly behind the al Qaeda plot to blow up a Northwest Airlines passenger jet over Detroit were released by the U.S. from the Guantanamo prison in November, 2007, according to American officials and Department of Defense documents. Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the Northwest bombing in a Monday statement that vowed more attacks on Americans.

Authorities investigate Northwest flight 253 on the tarmac at Detroit Metro Airport in Romulus, Michigan December 27, 2009.
(Reuters/U.S. Marshal's Service)American officials agreed to send the two terrorists from Guantanamo to Saudi Arabia where they entered into an "art therapy rehabilitation program" and were set free, according to U.S. and Saudi officials.

Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody. Al-Harbi has since changed his name to Muhamad al-Awfi

However, if you don't close Guantanamo and set these guys free so that they can go back to planning how to kill Americans, you are never going to convince five Norwegian politicians to give you a Nobel Peace Prize, so who's an American President supposed to listen to, the American people or Norwegian politicians?

 

[Ravi]

As I said from the first, if those put in Gitmo were not terrorists when they went in they will be when they come out.

Of course a liberal would say that! Its backwards thinking and stupidity!

When are you going to abandon your illogical oath to protect Islamic Radicals at all costs. Yes the vast majority of Muslims are good peaceful people, but a large minority of them are poisoned by a radical Islam and you (we) can just stick our heads in the sand and pretent it will go away!

I don't know if he is right or not, but it is anything but backwards thinking. People become radicalized because they think someone (in this case the US) is out to get them.

It is very likely that some innocent people were held without charges, treated like dog shit and became ardent haters of America.

Like I said, Bush fucked this up big time.

 

[Si modo]

If true...Bush fucked up big time.

True, but closing Gitmo and giving these foreign combatants access to our civilian courts is still nutz!

Totally agree. These dirtbags need to be tried in MT's not civilian courts. This IS just nutz.

I guess that BO's crew didn't learn anything from Bush's mistake of relaesing some of the Gitmo detaineee. They all go back and pick up their arms and start fighting and killing again.

I don't know about you, but once is usally enough for me.

Right. Military tribunals. BHO is fucking up as much (and IMO more) than his predecessor.

 

[GHook93]

If true...Bush fucked up big time.

True, but closing Gitmo and giving these foreign combatants access to our civilian courts is still nutz!

Disagree. They need to be put on trial and punished...not be sent back to where they came from.

They are not criminals, they are Lawful Enemy Combatants! Ex Parte Quirin set the precedence that "upheld the jurisdiction of a United States military tribunal over the trial of several Operation Pastorius German saboteurs in the United States. Quirin has been cited as a precedent for the trial by military commission of any unlawful combatant against the United States."
We are at war and the detainees in this war need to be treated as lawful enemy combatants subject to private military tribunals.

Ex Parte Quirin
Ex parte Quirin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[MaggieMae]

As I said from the first, if those put in Gitmo were not terrorists when they went in they will be when they come out.

Yup. Bad idea from the gitgo (gitmo).

 

[Si modo]

As I said from the first, if those put in Gitmo were not terrorists when they went in they will be when they come out.

And this comment has what to do with those behind flight 253?

 

[GHook93]

As I said from the first, if those put in Gitmo were not terrorists when they went in they will be when they come out.

Of course a liberal would say that! Its backwards thinking and stupidity!

When are you going to abandon your illogical oath to protect Islamic Radicals at all costs. Yes the vast majority of Muslims are good peaceful people, but a large minority of them are poisoned by a radical Islam and you (we) can just stick our heads in the sand and pretent it will go away!

I don't know if he is right or not, but it is anything but backwards thinking. People become radicalized because they think someone (in this case the US) is out to get them.

It is very likely that some innocent people were held without charges, treated like dog shit and became ardent haters of America.

Like I said, Bush fucked this up big time.

Bush fucked up big time! You will hear little argument against that from me (even on this handling for the economy and spending). However, most of the Gitmo detainees were caught on the battlefield and in the act of committing hanious crimes against humanity, they were already radicalized and gitmo isn't going to change that. Are their some innocent men at Gitmo? Probably, but US Citizen, as a hopeless and blind liberal, will state that increased radicalization is a reason to close gitmoi, when probably the effect is so minute its illogical to use in his arguments.

 

[Neotrotsky]

We are releasing these guys, giving them US citizen rights and it has been proven time and time again that they go back to jihad and seek to kill Americans!

Northwest Flight 253: al Qaeda Leaders Behind Terror Plot Were Released by U.S. - ABC News

Two al Qaeda Leaders Behind Northwest Flight 253 Terror Plot Were Released by U.S.
Former Guantanamo Prisoners Believed Behind Northwest Airlines Bomb Plot; Sent to Saudi Arabia in 2007

Two of the four leaders allegedly behind the al Qaeda plot to blow up a Northwest Airlines passenger jet over Detroit were released by the U.S. from the Guantanamo prison in November, 2007, according to American officials and Department of Defense documents. Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the Northwest bombing in a Monday statement that vowed more attacks on Americans.

Authorities investigate Northwest flight 253 on the tarmac at Detroit Metro Airport in Romulus, Michigan December 27, 2009.
(Reuters/U.S. Marshal's Service)American officials agreed to send the two terrorists from Guantanamo to Saudi Arabia where they entered into an "art therapy rehabilitation program" and were set free, according to U.S. and Saudi officials.

Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody. Al-Harbi has since changed his name to Muhamad al-Awfi

Damn Bush

That's what he gets for trying to keep liberals happy by letting some of these nuts go

 

[MaggieMae]

If true...Bush fucked up big time.

True, but closing Gitmo and giving these foreign combatants access to our civilian courts is still nutz!

Why?

Thirty-three international terrorists, many with ties to al-Qaeda, reside in a single federal prison in Florence, Colo., with little public notice.

Detained in the supermax facility in Colorado are Ramzi Yousef, who headed the group that carried out the first bombing of the World Trade Center in February 1993; Zacarias Moussaoui, convicted of conspiring in the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001; Ahmed Ressam, of the Dec. 31, 1999, Los Angeles airport millennium attack plots; Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, conspirator in several plots, including one to assassinate President George W. Bush; and Wadih el-Hage, convicted of the 1998 bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kenya.


There are hundreds more who have been tried, convicted and jailed in jurisdictions in Germany, France, the UK, Indonesia, the Philippines.

Since the al-qaeda operation is global, with cells scattered in every major nation, just where exactly should they all be placed once captured?

 

[MaggieMae]

As I said from the first, if those put in Gitmo were not terrorists when they went in they will be when they come out.

Of course a liberal would say that! Its backwards thinking and stupidity!

When are you going to abandon your illogical oath to protect Islamic Radicals at all costs. Yes the vast majority of Muslims are good peaceful people, but a large minority of them are poisoned by a radical Islam and you (we) can just stick our heads in the sand and pretent it will go away!

We "liberals" would be all ears if you "cons" ever had an adequate solution of your own. Do you recommend just killing all Muslims, with less than 1% being identified as Islamic fundamentalists? There's only around 2 billion Muslims worldwide. Where would you like to start weeding them out?

 

[Si modo]

Don't capture them if found in a war zone. Shoot them.

 

[uscitizen]

True, but closing Gitmo and giving these foreign combatants access to our civilian courts is still nutz!

Disagree. They need to be put on trial and punished...not be sent back to where they came from.

They are not criminals, they are Lawful Enemy Combatants! Ex Parte Quirin set the precedence that "upheld the jurisdiction of a United States military tribunal over the trial of several Operation Pastorius German saboteurs in the United States. Quirin has been cited as a precedent for the trial by military commission of any unlawful combatant against the United States."
We are at war and the detainees in this war need to be treated as lawful enemy combatants subject to private military tribunals.

Ex Parte Quirin
Ex parte Quirin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and how long did military tribunals have to decide on the enemy combatants?
Why was this not done?