UAW needs a wake up call!

[Fmr jarhead]

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/13/C01-115531.htm

This is about as assinine as I have heard from any of the rantings of the liberals....

It's about time to show our distaste of unions getting involved in politics. Unions are supposed to look after the welfare of workers, not make political statements!

Anyone have an idea of how we can express our displeasure with the UAW.

 

[no1tovote4]

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/13/C01-115531.htm

This is about as assinine as I have heard from any of the rantings of the liberals....

It's about time to show our distaste of unions getting involved in politics. Unions are supposed to look after the welfare of workers, not make political statements!

Anyone have an idea of how we can express our displeasure with the UAW.

The only way to effect them is by boycotting the product their members make. This would make it so more were laid off and the product would be increasingly made in other places. It could be cutting off the nose to spite the face.

 

[Itsthetruth]

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/13/C01-115531.htm

It's about time to show our distaste of unions getting involved in politics. Unions are supposed to look after the welfare of workers, not make political statements!
QUOTE]

And what do you think workers organizations should do when faced with an anti-worker President like George Bush? Keep quiet and pretend it ain't so! This "free speech stuff" just goes to far when you start including union members and their representatives! Only employers and corporate CEO's ought to have "free speech" rights. And only those employers and corporate CEO's who support Bush just to be safe!

Bet you'd have just the opposite opinion of the Auto Workers supported Bush!

Did you condemn James P. Hoffa, Teamster Union President, when he frequently said nice things about George W. Bush. Why George Bush gave Hoffa a choice seat next to Barbara Bush during one of his early state of the union speeches!

 

[no1tovote4]

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/13/C01-115531.htm

It's about time to show our distaste of unions getting involved in politics. Unions are supposed to look after the welfare of workers, not make political statements!
QUOTE]

And what you think workers organizations should do when faced with a anti-worker President like George Bush? Keep quiet and pretend it ain't so! This "free speech stuff" just goes to far when you start including union members and their representatives! Only employers and corporate CEO's ought to have "free speech" rights. And only those employers and corporate CEO's who support Bush just to be safe!

Bet you'd have just the opposite opinion of the Auto Workers supported Bush!

Did you condemn James P. Hoffa, Teamster Union President, when he frequently said nice things about George W. Bush. Why George Bush gave Hoffa a choice seat next to Barbara Bush during one of his early state of the union speeches!

This is ridiculous overgeneralization. If I were a member of the union and they began endorsing candidates and pushing a political agenda I would become a non-unionized employee. The Union is supposed to represent me, not me changing to become the expected in order to meet their expectations.

 

[OCA]

So when unions, who BTW are socialist and communist at their root, forcefully deduct from their members paychecks political contribution solely to Democratic candidates even though said union member might not support that candidate is right? Its democratic?

The time for unions is long past, they are the sole reason for mediocrity in much of the nation.

Provide some proof that Bush is anti-worker or leave the assinine statements out of your posts. Your skating on thin ice here.

 

[Fmr jarhead]

I would not go so far as to say that unions are not a viable organization, when they do represent mistreated workers against bad management....

I do think that they should not have a political agenda, at all....just the interest of the workers with regard to management's mistreatment or abuse of the workforce.

The stance taken against the Marine Corps is reprehensible, at the very least! The UAW's management has become obsolete, and misdirected!

 

[SmarterThanYou]

So when unions, who BTW are socialist and communist at their root, forcefully deduct from their members paychecks political contribution solely to Democratic candidates even though said union member might not support that candidate is right? Its democratic?

The time for unions is long past, they are the sole reason for mediocrity in much of the nation.

Provide some proof that Bush is anti-worker or leave the assinine statements out of your posts. Your skating on thin ice here.

Unions are socialist, they are not communist. Theres no 'state' involved with a union. maybe a state of greed, but no state as in a government.

 

[Itsthetruth]

Unions are socialist, they are not communist. Theres no 'state' involved with a union. maybe a state of greed, but no state as in a government.

Ya .... those union workers are always so greedy .... wanting more pay, pensions, health care, etc.,

They should follow the lead and example of self-sacrificing corporate CEO's who never demand anything. Take our role model Kenneth Lay for example. Now that's a guy who deserved every dollar he stole from employees and investors.

What's the corporate CEO slogan? Oh .... I remember it: "Greed Is Good!"

 

[SmarterThanYou]

Ya .... those union workers are always so greedy .... wanting more pay, pensions, health care, etc.,

They should follow the lead and example of self-sacrificing corporate CEO's who never demand anything. Take our role model Kenneth Lay for example. Now that's a guy who deserved every dollar he stole from employees and investors.

What's the corporate CEO slogan? Oh .... I remember it: "Greed Is Good!"

let me tell you how greedy unions can be. I'm an IT professional with 15 years experience. 2 years ago I was making $15 an hour doing highly technical work while unionized customer service reps, who don't know anything more technical than how to push the keys on the keyboard, were making $20 and hour.

 

[Itsthetruth]

let me tell you how greedy unions can be. I'm an IT professional with 15 years experience. 2 years ago I was making $15 an hour doing highly technical work while unionized customer service reps, who don't know anything more technical than how to push the keys on the keyboard, were making $20 and hour.

Sounds to me like the customer service reps were better represented than you were. Don't be jealous. Didn't you demand at least $30 an hour? Sounds like that's what you should have been making.

Their pay should not have been cut. Your pay should have been increased a lot! And cutting the service reps pay to $10 an hour might have resulted in you receiving even less money. That's how it works in real life.

If the company really paid you what your worth you would have received far more than $20 a hour. They didn't because they didn't have to. I assume you did not have a labor contract with that employer. All CEO's and top company executives have labor contracts with their employers. The only other people who have employer/employee labor agreements are generally employees who have union rights to negotiate labor contracts.

 

[Fmr jarhead]

Sounds to me like the customer service reps were better represented than you were. Don't be jealous. Didn't you demand at least $30 an hour? Sounds like that's what you should have been making.

Their pay should not have been cut. Your pay should have been increased a lot! And cutting the service reps pay to $10 an hour might have resulted in you receiving even less money. That's how it works in real life.

If the company really paid you what your worth you would have received far more than $20 a hour. They didn't because they didn't have to. I assume you did not have a labor contract with that employer. All CEO's and top company executives have labor contracts with their employers. The only other people who have employer/employee labor agreements are generally employees who have union rights to negotiate labor contracts.

and the cost of goods and services would have driven us consumers to buy from an offshore competitor who made a better moustrap for less money!

So, you think the UAW is correct in kicking the reservists out of thier parking lots, because they have Pro-Bush stickers and chose to drive cars they can afford? Who is infringing on personal choice?

 

[Annie]

http://www.uaw.org/news/newsarticle.cfm?ArtId=315

For Release: Monday, March 14, 2005

Statement by UAW President Gettelfinger on Marine reservists parking at UAW headquarters
“I have reconsidered and reversed my decision not to allow Marine reservists to park non-union made vehicles or vehicles displaying Bush stickers at Solidarity House on weekends.

“Some people may have thought my orginal decision reflected a lack of support for the Marine Corps and the service of Marine reservists.

“That certainly was not my intention. Having served in the Marine Corps Reserves myself, I fully appreciate the sacrifices and contributions made by America’s reservists, National Guard members and active duty military personnel and their families.

“That said, I made the wrong call on the parking issue, and I have notified the Marine Corps that all reservists are welcome to park at Solidarity House as they have for the past 10 years.

“I regret that the controversy over this decision has overshadowed the many good things the UAW and our members are doing to support and express our appreciation to America’s service men and women and veterans.”

Cars assembled by UAW:

http://www.uaw.org/uawmade/cartruck2005.cfm

 

[musicman]

The world around us is changing.

 

[KarlMarx]

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/13/C01-115531.htm

It's about time to show our distaste of unions getting involved in politics. Unions are supposed to look after the welfare of workers, not make political statements!
QUOTE]

And what do you think workers organizations should do when faced with an anti-worker President like George Bush? Keep quiet and pretend it ain't so! This "free speech stuff" just goes to far when you start including union members and their representatives! Only employers and corporate CEO's ought to have "free speech" rights. And only those employers and corporate CEO's who support Bush just to be safe!

Bet you'd have just the opposite opinion of the Auto Workers supported Bush!

Did you condemn James P. Hoffa, Teamster Union President, when he frequently said nice things about George W. Bush. Why George Bush gave Hoffa a choice seat next to Barbara Bush during one of his early state of the union speeches!

Yes, anti worker, there you go. Of course, never mind that during the anti-worker Bush's two terms in office, unemployment went down, inflation was super low, interest rates were the same. Never mind that, after inheriting a recession from Clinton the economy is now expanding.

Never mind that people like your buddy Carter likes to rub elbows with friends of the workers like Castro (who likes workers so much, he even throws them in jail).

Never mind that a lot of unions are corrupt, involved with organized crime (did you mention Hoffa?)