UACA would NEVER be the ACA!!!

[healthmyths]

What a stupid misnomer "Affordable Care Act" was so wrong from the title to the tanning tax to the ASSUMPTiON people WANTED health insurance!!

Starting with the WrONG number of truly needy health "UNINSURED" because:
1) 10 million called "uninsured" were NOT citizens... per the USA CENSUS Bureau!
2) 14 million who stupidly said "oh Im uninsured" didn't know they were covered by Medicaid!
3) finally 17.5 million people under age 34, that can afford (make over $50,000) but they would rather pay their health bills out of pocket are erroneously counted and presented as part of the bogus 50 million "uninsured"!

The truth is 41.5 million either not citizens,or already covered OR don't want it are counted back as "uninsured" and as a result the TRULY 8.5 million that need coverage won't get it!

Consider the simplicity of TAXING those millionaire lawyers $100 billion income at 10%
Pays a $1,176 premium for each.

Then when the uninsured goes to the hospital the hospital sends the bill to the company that manages the uninsured.

NOW the hospitals WON"T have any excuse to markup their claims to Medicare and insurance companies sometimes 6,000% just to cover their "uncompensated" services!
AND Medicare is OK with paying 6,000% more because it was Medicare that created the gross markups ...called EMTALA!!!

 

[francoHFW]

No more freeloaders! Romneycare already is the slowest rising state, 2%, and ACA is better. It would help if you knew how it works, dupe. And OP is BS.

 

[healthmyths]

No more freeloaders! Romneycare already is the slowest rising state, 2%, and ACA is better. It would help if you knew how it works, dupe. And OP is BS.

Well I do know! More then YOU I'm sure!
For example.. do you have access to database of the 6,000 hospitals and WHAT they've billed Medicare?
For example tell me what CITY you live in and I'll show you how much the largest hospital in your town is OVERCHARGING MEDICARE !
Medicare is OK with the overcharge and you have NO idea why do you?

I dare you tell me your city and I'll prove to you I know ten times more about health care finance alone in Medicare then you! If you dare!

 

[francoHFW]

More fraud has been found in the run up to ACA than ever before, with much more to come as the system is computerized under ACA.

ACA is all about solutions. You're all about screaming about the problems under this bs Pub system. One of the biggest frauders ever is the Pub gov of Florida...

 

[J.E.D]

What a stupid misnomer "Affordable Care Act" was so wrong from the title to the tanning tax to the ASSUMPTiON people WANTED health insurance!!

Starting with the WrONG number of truly needy health "UNINSURED" because:
1) 10 million called "uninsured" were NOT citizens... per the USA CENSUS Bureau!
2) 14 million who stupidly said "oh Im uninsured" didn't know they were covered by Medicaid!
3) finally 17.5 million people under age 34, that can afford (make over $50,000) but they would rather pay their health bills out of pocket are erroneously counted and presented as part of the bogus 50 million "uninsured"!

The truth is 41.5 million either not citizens,or already covered OR don't want it are counted back as "uninsured" and as a result the TRULY 8.5 million that need coverage won't get it!

Consider the simplicity of TAXING those millionaire lawyers $100 billion income at 10%
Pays a $1,176 premium for each.

Then when the uninsured goes to the hospital the hospital sends the bill to the company that manages the uninsured.

NOW the hospitals WON"T have any excuse to markup their claims to Medicare and insurance companies sometimes 6,000% just to cover their "uncompensated" services!
AND Medicare is OK with paying 6,000% more because it was Medicare that created the gross markups ...called EMTALA!!!

My gawd, you're dumb.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Franco is a partisan hack. Holla

 

[francoHFW]

Anyone who knows history and the facts, is NOT a Pub dupe. Everything you know is wrong, dupe. LOL

 

[healthmyths]

What a stupid misnomer "Affordable Care Act" was so wrong from the title to the tanning tax to the ASSUMPTiON people WANTED health insurance!!

Starting with the WrONG number of truly needy health "UNINSURED" because:
1) 10 million called "uninsured" were NOT citizens... per the USA CENSUS Bureau!
2) 14 million who stupidly said "oh Im uninsured" didn't know they were covered by Medicaid!
3) finally 17.5 million people under age 34, that can afford (make over $50,000) but they would rather pay their health bills out of pocket are erroneously counted and presented as part of the bogus 50 million "uninsured"!

The truth is 41.5 million either not citizens,or already covered OR don't want it are counted back as "uninsured" and as a result the TRULY 8.5 million that need coverage won't get it!

Consider the simplicity of TAXING those millionaire lawyers $100 billion income at 10%
Pays a $1,176 premium for each.

Then when the uninsured goes to the hospital the hospital sends the bill to the company that manages the uninsured.

NOW the hospitals WON"T have any excuse to markup their claims to Medicare and insurance companies sometimes 6,000% just to cover their "uncompensated" services!
AND Medicare is OK with paying 6,000% more because it was Medicare that created the gross markups ...called EMTALA!!!

My gawd, you're dumb.

Put your money where your mouth is IDIOT! What city do you live in and I'll tell you how much your biggest hospital is marking up their Medicare claims!
YOU are so ignorant you have NO idea what a 270 is from a 837 from a 277CA!
YOU have no idea what EMTALA is or why it is COSTING you in the form of higher insurance premiums!
You have NOT refuted the FACT the Census says 10 million counted as "uninsured" are not citizens and yet you want to pay for that?
YOU have not refuted the fact that 17.5 million people that DON"T want to buy health insurance as they don't need it... yet they were bogus number put into the 50 million!
WRONG wrong wrong and if you think that is right you are so f..king STUPID!

 

[healthmyths]

More fraud has been found in the run up to ACA than ever before, with much more to come as the system is computerized under ACA.

ACA is all about solutions. You're all about screaming about the problems under this bs Pub system. One of the biggest frauders ever is the Pub gov of Florida...

Why do idiots like you write and PROVE you are idiots?

I'm going to give you a "health finance" test...
What does an EDI 270 do?
If you wanted to get paid by Medicare would you send a 835???
Is the IP address to FTP claims to Novitas 157.154.96.7, or 157.155.96.7 or 157.154.84.7?
You want to see if a Medicare claim is paid what Enterprise Data center would you use to do a DDE/TN3270 session?
See you have NO idea what I just asked... yet you are so.f...king stupid you write about computerized...????

What a putz!

 

[francoHFW]

Those 10 million noncitizens, thanks to Pubs' refusal FOREVER of a good work/ID card, work and pay taxes (67% at last count) and get health care, so we might as well get them paying SOMETHING or get them preventive care- both cheaper than free ER care.

Those 17.5 million are freeloaders , and DITTO.

 

[healthmyths]

So it comes down to this..
YOU WANT the United States, capitalism, freedom of choice to be replaced by the
United Socialistic States.. womb to tomb control of what you do where go you live and NO such thing
as free will because when you MOCK the 17.5 million who CHOOSE not to pay for healthcare as "free loaders" on what?
They aren't using the services unless the pay for them!

So because THEY aren't using them you want them to pay for it!

The problem with idiots like you is YOU can't discuss FACTS with people holding their hands over their ears!

No wonder most adults shun people like you because YOU don't have any touch with reality!

But see even idiots like YOU admit.. the 50 million number is bogus!

And if the fundamental ERROR of not even knowing what the magnitude is tell me.. how can you solve a problem if you don't even know what size the problem is?

You just admitted 17.5 million are not the problem.
You admitted counted illegal aliens for a problem that was for citizens!
You never recognized the FACT 14 million people are already insured!
SO idiot... how come the destruction of everyone else's health program is necessary for a problem that affects less then 3% of the population?
Why does it take destroying 97% of America's health program to cover 3%?
But again... no one ever accused people like you of figuring things like this out!

 

[francoHFW]

Romneycare already is the slowest rising state, 2%, and ACA is better. It's helluva lot cheaper for the country than the freeloading/bankruptcy system we have now. What are you afraid of, seriously. Do you have insurance. ACA will make it guaranteed and cheaper over time. If not, you'll get it, affordabley.Either improved Medicaid free for less than 140% of poverty level, or subsidies to make it affordable, up to $88k for a family of four.????????????

 

[francoHFW]

No, the 17.5 million are a huge problem- they need to get insurance to make it possible to cover those with preexisting conditons. If they get sick or have an accident, they go bankrupt and freeload- IN A WAY LOL, and they DO get sick more often because they never see a doctor, and aren't told how to take care of themselves, so it costs bigger money when they finally DO come in.

A system like this is the most popular social program there is in every other modern country...

Obama never wanted a mandate- people will just WANT it...maybe starting tomorrow...the American way...lol

 

[healthmyths]

Romneycare already is the slowest rising state, 2%, and ACA is better. It's helluva lot cheaper for the country than the freeloading/bankruptcy system we have now. What are you afraid of, seriously. Do you have insurance. ACA will make it guaranteed and cheaper over time. If not, you'll get it, affordabley.Either improved Medicaid free for less than 140% of poverty level, or subsidies to make it affordable, up to $88k for a family of four.????????????

Unlike YOU I provide substantiation.. here!!!!

And why don't you want millionaire lawyers to pay a 10% tax like tanning salons do in ACA?
90% of physicians say they spend $1 of $4 on "defensive medicine"!
Because of fear of lawsuits! $600 billion a year!

2) Nine out of 10 physicians reported practicing defensive medicine.
Estimate Defensive Medicine Costs Americans $650-850 Billion Annually
Doctors Practice Medicine in Fear, New Study Finds

The $10 billion in lawyer taxes would be tied to reducing the $600 billion in defensive medicine, i.e. $600 billion reduces 10% tax rate reduces!

The average settlement in a medical malpractice case is about $340,000.
Most cases don't end up in trial. About 95 percent of personal injury cases that are filed settle prior to trial.
Read more: What Is the Average Personal Injury Settlement?
What Is the Average Personal Injury Settlement? | eHow.com

The other FACTOR is UNCOMPENSATED services of hospitals & physicians add up to about
2009 5008 $39.1 6.0%
Source: Health Forum, AHA Annual Survey Data, 1980-2009
www.aha.org/content/00-10/10uncompensatedcare.pdf

So hospitals "pad and pass" and that's why Medicare's OK with paying 6,000% markups and these "markups" are passed on to YOUR children!

FACTS where are YOUR substantiated facts?

 

[healthmyths]

Romneycare already is the slowest rising state, 2%, and ACA is better. It's helluva lot cheaper for the country than the freeloading/bankruptcy system we have now. What are you afraid of, seriously. Do you have insurance. ACA will make it guaranteed and cheaper over time. If not, you'll get it, affordabley.Either improved Medicaid free for less than 140% of poverty level, or subsidies to make it affordable, up to $88k for a family of four.????????????

FACTS:
Which states rank highest in health care costs?
Based on those ratings, the most expensive states are:
Maine
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
New York
New Jersey
Vermont
Washington
Connecticut
Colorado
Florida
Oregon
California
Which states rank highest in health care costs? - Jan Norman on Small Business : The Orange County Register

So where did your 2% statistic come from????

The report found that by 2009, premiums were highest in Alaska, Connecticut, Massachusetts
Study Gives a State by State Look at Health Insurance Costs - The Commonwealth Fund

But again WHY confuse you with FACTS!!! Where did your 2% figure come from??

 

[GuyPinestra]

Dem/Dupe hater made it up!!

 

[healthmyths]

No, the 17.5 million are a huge problem- they need to get insurance to make it possible to cover those with preexisting conditons. If they get sick or have an accident, they go bankrupt and freeload- IN A WAY LOL, and they DO get sick more often because they never see a doctor, and aren't told how to take care of themselves, so it costs bigger money when they finally DO come in.

A system like this is the most popular social program there is in every other modern country...

Obama never wanted a mandate- people will just WANT it...maybe starting tomorrow...the American way...lol

Deal with FACTS please!
Pre-existing conditions catastrophic healthcare are such GROSS hyperbolic exceptional situations!
For example FACT:
1) Do you think by some kind of Magic your health insurance premium will go down
because the 17.5 million that don't want insurance will be forced to by insurance?
Then if it doesn't go down why would it go up?
Because the supposedly "pool" would be bigger?
If the pool is bigger there are more people who will also therefore spend more
cause they have it so let's use it! And now they go for a simple cold!
Works all the time!
2) Right NOW insurance companies under penalty of false reporting sign documents attesting that on average 80 cents of ever dollar in premium PAYS CLAIMS!!!

Since you don't know much evidently how insurance works.. JUST because you have more people paying in MEANS more money goes out!

NO the best solution is to stop trying to be all things to all people i.e. the Govt. can not
manage health care efficiently... again why is Medicare paying 6,000% markups?

Deal with fact there is less the 8 million that truly need insurance!
Deal with FACT that $600 billion is WASTED due to fear of lawsuits!
Deal with FACT hospitals OVERBILL payers to make up for uncompensated services!

Once you get through your head these are 3 fundamental cost drivers then you
can attack the problem!
A) force all "uninsured" when go to hospital register with the Uninsured Health ins. Co.
B) Force lawyers, hospitals,Payers to pay 10% of lawyers fees 10% of uncompensated & 10% of insurance claims to uninsured.- net $10 billion lawyers $10 billion hospitals, $10 billion payers to Uninsured...
C) force all "uncompensated" services to send claims to Uninsured.

NOW you have
A ) forced lawyers to cut back which reduces $600 billion defensive medicine
B) hospitals CAN't PAD AND Pass to Medicare/insurance companies.

And Health care costs DROP which reduces premiums!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No more freeloaders! Romneycare already is the slowest rising state, 2%, and ACA is better. It would help if you knew how it works, dupe. And OP is BS.

Lie.

 

[francoHFW]

FRONTLINE doesn't lie. Pub propaganda does, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

"1) Do you think by some kind of Magic your health insurance premium will go down
because the 17.5 million that don't want insurance will be forced to by insurance?"

Always has LOL.

Also, see low cost clinics ( $10 billion worth), guidelines for care saves malpractice $, limit on % spent by insurers on non care, etc etc etc. READ something.