U.S. to Pull Out of 13 German Bases

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    It's ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME! Thanks for NOTHING Germany... Thanks for being pussies in the War on Terror...

    BERLIN — The U.S. Army will pull out of 13 bases in southern Germany as part of its repositioning of American forces around the world, its European headquarters said Friday.

    Eleven bases in and around the Bavarian city of Wuerzburg will be handed over to the German government by September 2007, the Army's European headquarters in Heidelberg said. Two more bases near Wuerzburg will close and be handed over in subsequent years.

    The Defense Department said the changes would affect about 6,100 soldiers and 11,000 family members as well as about 1,000 Army civilian employees and 1,000 civilians employed locally.

    Although facilities such as the huge Ramstein Air Base, a hub for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, are being retained, Washington is bringing many units home and opening smaller, more flexible bases abroad to respond to new threats such as international terrorism.

    The new bases will accommodate U.S.-based troops rotating through for shorter periods, without the schools and family housing that went with Cold War-era bases.

    The U.S. military has about 62,000 service members based in Germany, a legacy of the Cold War. U.S. officials have said that number will fall to as few as 20,000.

    The military has said a total of about 50,000 troops will be brought home from Germany and South Korea.

    The closures announced Friday are part of plans calling for most of the Wuerzburg-based 1st Infantry Division to return to the United States in mid-2006 and to relocate, convert and deactivate other parts of the Army's 5th Corps.

    The military also has said it will move the Wiesbaden-based 1st Armored Division — the other main element of the 5th Corps — out of Germany.

    The Pentagon reiterated Friday that it intended to base a mobile Stryker Combat Brigade Team in Vilseck, also in Bavaria.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...jul30,1,5106397.story?coll=la-headlines-world
     
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    My heart bleeds that Germany is going to lose all those American dollars. :beer:
     
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    I agree. There is though, more than one way to look at this:

    http://varifrank.com/archives/2005/07/pullout.php

     
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    We need the manpower elsewhere. Manning an obsolete defensive perimeter while other troops are pushed to teh limit with short deployment turnaround is not what I'd call efficient.

    Manning that perimeter and supporting local economies in a Nation that has been openly critical of the US and voted against us in the UN just simply doesn't make sense to me.

    The only threat of invasion Germany currently faces is that of the mediocrity brought on by socialism.
     
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    As I said, I agree. There is more than one way to look at this, though.
     
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    LOL .... okay ..... I'm having a blonde moment ... what specifically are you looking at?
     
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    'Connections' on the term 'pullout' same as in Iraq. What it 'really' means.
     
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    It was about time anyway. I was stationed in Darmstadt, a small town just to the south of Frankfurt. I enjoyed my time there; the idea of going to McDonalds to get a Big Mac, pommes frites and a lager, still kicks butt in my mind.

    My only concern is the future of US/foreign relations. Many of lessons our soldiers had learned, when dealing with other cultures, came from living amongst them.

    We're not just removing bases, we're removing vitural classrooms from our soldiers. Just a thought!
     
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    My guess, the locations of the classrooms will change. Not a bad idea. New world, rather than spent.
     
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    Well, Kathy, I have no intention of protesting the withdrawls, it's about time. I'll never regret my experience there.

    I'd learned that the Germans were not all evil; I'd learned that many of them were executed, along with the Jews, for fighting against Hitler. Most important, I'd learned that Germany had put forth the strongest campaign to apologize for the holocaust; which is better than any other nation had ever done for apologizing for previous atrocities, including the US's role in slavery.

    They'd paid their dues; our mission is done there. It's time to come home.
     

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