U.S. Presidential Rankings

[PoliticalChic]

why would Lincoln shoot to the bottom?

You have to give him some credit for uniting the nation.

 

[KGB]

You have to give him some credit for uniting the nation.

that's why I asked him why he put Lincoln on the bottom.....

 

[Modbert]

It's too bad about Nixon because he certainly was one of the brightest and most competent of the presidents. He made tremendous strides in foreign relations particularly China. I thought also that Clinton should have been lower on the list due to his stain on the office of the president. I don't agree that Eisenhower should have been so high on the list...

Thanks for posting.

Nixon certainly was also one of the most crooked.

The one positive thing he will remembered for is the strides with foreign relations with China as you mentioned. The other thing would be Watergate.

As for this list:

FDR at #3 was an excellent choice.

TR at #5 was also excellent

Eisenhower at #6 though?

Ronald Reagan at #8?

Polk was ranked too high, especially just for expanding the union.

Woodrow Wilson at #10 is high, creation of the federal reserve and not wanting to enter WWI makes him way too high on this list.

JFK at #11 was an excellent choice though I believe he would he make the top 10 with a few changes. Alot of the legislation that occurred after his death was because of him.

Hayes at #27 is insane. The man not only stole the election but he withdrew troops from the south which proved to be a huge mistake in the future.

I believe #33 - 42 is 110% correct.

Though with Bush, history might prove him to be even higher then #37 perhaps peaking out in the 40's or 39 or even higher but not much.

 

[Modbert]

What are YOU talking about? Wipe the drool off your lips, btw. Reagan started the war on drugs, dipstick. Agnew PRECEEDED him out of office. How the Hell do you think the Speaker of the House became President?

Eisenhower was the first to send federal troops into Southern schools to enforce desegregation, so you'd be wrong on that score as well.

Prescott Bush was not President and his name is just a buzzword for you people that have that terminal buzz between your ears.

Keep your conspiratorial bullshit in the forum where it belongs.

The War on Drugs is the longest and biggest failure of a war in American History.

War On Drugs Clock

Einsenhower being the first to send federal troops into Southern schools does not deserve him that high though.

 

[seth1492]

I think that most of the ranking is bogus... Media hype, defamation, and mud slinging have always existed. But the last century has been extreme. Presidents have not been given a fair chance. Also, history has its charms for Presidents. We will see what it looks like a decade from now and see if the older presidents are remembered better by history.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

why would Lincoln shoot to the bottom?

The United States were supposed to be a confederated union of free and independent states, up until Lincoln waged his war to "save the union." He suspended habeas corpus, and had many of his political opponents arrested. He wasn't some great civil rights leader, and he did not want African-Americans to be equal with whites. He supported colonization, which was an effort to have African-Americans in the U.S. sent to Africa, Central America, and Haiti.

"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it."

"I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position."

"What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races."

All quotes from Lincoln.

I recommend The Real Lincoln and Lincoln Unmasked by Thomas J. DiLorenzo for more information on the subject.

 

[Dr Grump]

We REALLY don't care what you think since you are not even an American.

You speaking for others now? And if you don't care, why answer the post..

 

[jillian]

i take it you were born in the 80's

I think Reagan is largely responsible for moving the republican party to the disgusting place they're at now. He was not a good president. not as bad as others who came after him like baby bush, but certainly not good. Daddy Bush was right then about voodoo economics and it's still voodoo economics.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

What the hell are you talking about? Nixon ran a gangster government. He kept lists of his enemies, because he was a paranoid psycho? He was also a closet pot smoker, while he started the war on drugs! He gave us the dreadful HMO's. He ordered the Watergate break in. He now gave us the nightmare of trading with communist dictatorship in China. And unsafe imports. He resigned in shame and Spiro T. Agnew followed him out the door. So what the hell are you talking about competent leadership? Dwight D. Eisenhour was against de-segregation in public schools. He was close friends with Prescott Bush, Grandpa Bush who helped the Nazi's while George H.W. Bush was fighting the Germans in WWII. WTF are you talking about?

Yeah well said.Until Bush Jr came along,Nixon rivaled clinton jr as the most evil and corrupted president of all time.He is in a tie with Clinton in second place now.Nixon also had ties to the mafia.He along with LBJ,was also involved in the kennedy assassination up to his ears.He had deep ties to the mob and CIA.He pardoned Jack Ruby from the unamerican activities in 1947 and pardoned Jimmy Hoffa as well.The similarities between Clinton and Nixon are amazing.Both got impeached with one being forced to leave office and both started a fake and phony war.Nixon with cambodia to get everybodys attention away from watergate and Clinton with is Bosnia-I think it was the Bosnia war,to get everybodys attention away from the Lewinsky scandal.Bastards.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The War on Drugs is a prohibition campaign undertaken by the United States government with the assistance of participating countries, intended to reduce the illegal drug trade—to curb supply and diminish demand for certain psychoactive substances deemed "harmful or undesirable" by the government. This initiative includes a set of laws and policies that are intended to discourage the production, distribution, and consumption of targeted substances. The term was first used by President Richard Nixon in 1971, and his choice of words was probably based on the War on Poverty, announced by President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964.

On October 10, 1973, Spiro Agnew became the second Vice President to resign the office. Unlike John C. Calhoun, who resigned to take a seat in the Senate, Agnew resigned and then pleaded nolo contendere (no contest) to criminal charges of tax evasion and money laundering, part of a negotiated resolution to a scheme wherein he accepted $29,500 in bribes during his tenure as governor of Maryland. The bribes were paid to Agnew by some members of the construction industry to get their projects approved. When Agnew moved from Annapolis, Maryland to Washington, D.C., he continued to demand payments. Angered, the construction men turned government's witnesses. Agnew was fined $10,000 and put on three years' probation. The $10,000 fine only covered the taxes and interest due on what was "unreported income" from 1967.

Eisenhower supported the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka U.S. Supreme Court decision, in which segregated ("separate but equal") schools were ruled to be unconstitutional. The very next day he told District of Columbia officials to make Washington a model for the rest of the country in integrating black and white public school children.[41][42] He proposed to Congress the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 and signed those acts into law. Although both Acts were weaker than subsequent civil rights legislation, they constituted the first significant civil rights acts since the 1870s. The "Little Rock Nine" incident of 1957 involved the refusal by Arkansas to honor a Federal court order to integrate the schools. Under Executive Order 10730, Eisenhower placed the Arkansas National Guard under Federal control and sent Army troops to escort nine black students into an all-white public school. The integration did not occur without violence. Eisenhower and Arkansas governor Orval Faubus engaged in tense arguments.

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the "Bush/Nazi" connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.

well done again my man.

 

[Turboswede]

What the hell are you talking about? Nixon ran a gangster government. He kept lists of his enemies, because he was a paranoid psycho? He was also a closet pot smoker, while he started the war on drugs! He gave us the dreadful HMO's. He ordered the Watergate break in. He now gave us the nightmare of trading with communist dictatorship in China. And unsafe imports. He resigned in shame and Spiro T. Agnew followed him out the door. So what the hell are you talking about competent leadership? Dwight D. Eisenhour was against de-segregation in public schools. He was close friends with Prescott Bush, Grandpa Bush who helped the Nazi's while George H.W. Bush was fighting the Germans in WWII. WTF are you talking about?

I am guessing that greenpartyaz must be over 50 as modern Liberals don't seem to have this kind of venom for Nixion, we reserve it for Regan

 

[Turboswede]

Well this is just Time’s opinion based on the writer of the article and the priorities of the writer.

Coming from my perspective you would ALWAYS need to have Washington first, I don’t care what side of the political spectrum you are one and I am kind of offended that he isn’t in the #1 spot. Without Washington’s insistence that there not be a hereditary ruler for the new United States, we may not have had any presidents at all.

#2 Jefferson
Would be my Personal #2 as the guiding hand behind the bill of rights and the idea that the states powers need to be limited under the law. I know that’s before he was elected, but he deserves some extra credit. Not to mention the Louisiana Purchase and the close bond he formed with France to ensure our continued independence.

#3 James Madison
Would be my #3 for preventing the Brits from reversing the revolutionary war and his contributions in shaping the role of the presidency.

#4 Lincoln
Would be my #4 choice kind of by default, any president who kept the union together would probably deserve this slot.

#5 FDR
I am aware that this is very debatable, but in my opinion he ended the depression, won the Second World War, established the U.S. as the successor to the U.K.’s global hegemony all while he was partially paralyzed by polio. Say what you will, I will always think of FDR as the best “modern” president.

#6 Teddy Roosevelt
The architect of America’s place on the world stage, and a great conservationist as well.

#7 Dwight Eisenhower
Had an easy time of it as president but he called out the National Guard in support of basic civil rights, kept us out of WW III, was opposed to helping the French maintain their colonial hold on SE Asia (and European Colonialism in general) and warned us all of the dangers posed by the Military Industrial Complex.

#8 James Polk
Assuming you are a fan of manifest destiny, you have to give Polk a spot in the top 10.

#9 Richard Nixon
Yes, I think once the baby boomers finally pass on people will recognize the contributions Nixon made in his presidency that influence American domestic and foreign policy today. He re-established relations with the PRC which (in my opinion) was a major reason for the collapse of the Soviets 20 odd years later. He also realized that the Domino theory was bunk and that the US needed to get the hell out of Vietnam. He showed OPEC that the US could not be blackmailed into submission by any cartel that threatened us. He fought stagflation while simultaneously reducing the national debt and cemented our commitment to Israel in the 73 war. That commitment combined with the failure of OPEC to break us led to Egypt’s acceptance of Israel and (relative) peace in the Middle East.

#10 Lyndon Johnson
Support for civil rights, creation of the Great Society while fighting in Vietnam and reducing the national debt.

 

[bigdaddygtr]

It's too bad about Nixon because he certainly was one of the brightest and most competent of the presidents. He made tremendous strides in foreign relations particularly China. I thought also that Clinton should have been lower on the list due to his stain on the office of the president. I don't agree that Eisenhower should have been so high on the list...

Thanks for posting.

Nixon good?

Boy that makes perfect sense you would like that crook and then get on Clinton for getting a blow job in the office. You are absolutely ridiculous

 

[bigdaddygtr]

George Washington is one of the worst Presidents we ever had and he even said that after he left office. He was a play boy who did very little except create the President's cabinet. He shouldn't be in the top 10

Last - GEORGE BUSH jr

 

[bigdaddygtr]

We REALLY don't care what you think since you are not even an American.

Exactly why I don't want the military ANYWHERE near the oval office. Comments like that are exactly why everyone hates us, yet most of the civilized world knows MORE about our history then we do.

Don't try and speak for all of us Sarg