U.S. Pays For Afghan Massacre -- $50,000 Per Victim...

[Gadawg73]

It would have been far worse had they been allowed access to American courts.

What court do we have access to for damages on September 11, 2001?

 

[Sallow]

It would have been far worse had they been allowed access to American courts.

What court do we have access to for damages on September 11, 2001?

The same one that was available when the US backed the muj against the Russians.

Like the results?

 

[paulitician]

It would have been far worse had they been allowed access to American courts.

What court do we have access to for damages on September 11, 2001?

The same one that was available when the US backed the muj against the Russians.

Like the results?

No i don't, and unfortunately American Tax Dollars were used to create that horrific mess too.

 

[Sallow]

What court do we have access to for damages on September 11, 2001?

The same one that was available when the US backed the muj against the Russians.

Like the results?

No i don't, and unfortunately American Tax Dollars were used to create that horrific mess too.

Yep. This is probably a topic I agree with Dr. Paul on.

 

[Katzndogz]

This kind of payment is in accordance with islamic law where a killer can buy "forgiveness" or, quisas from the bereaved and is not guilty of any crime once payment, diyya has been accepted.

U.S. abides by Sharia principles, pays $46,000 for each victim of Kandahar massacre - Jihad Watch

I don't see any real problem with abiding by sharia law in this case. We are in their country after all. The important thing is, that now that the diyya has been paid, Afghanistan has no further interest in prosecution. Bales is now a fully innocent man according to their law and only subject to military law.

Your post is 100% correct

It should be publicized in the country.

It won't be. Bales will be held for a number of years, then tried on some vague charges that sound good. Whatever action the military plans will be taken quietly.

There are no witnesses against him. He is innocent of any wrongdoing on Afghan soil. Paying the diyya has the effect that a full acquittal has under our system.

 

[Sunni Man]

Your post is 100% correct

It should be publicized in the country.

It won't be. Bales will be held for a number of years, then tried on some vague charges that sound good. Whatever action the military plans will be taken quietly.

There are no witnesses against him. He is innocent of any wrongdoing on Afghan soil. Paying the diyya has the effect that a full acquittal has under our system.

No, he is not innocent of any wrong doing on Afghan soil.

The paying the money was an admission of guilt.

Although he has satisfied the Afghan legal system.

He still violated the American military criminal justice system.

And now must face those charges against him.

 

[NYcarbineer]

On MSNBC's 'Up' with Chris Hayes this morning, he put up on the screen, and read, the names of the Afghanis who were killed.

MSNBC seems to want a conviction without a trial.

That is what you got from that?

Where did you get that, btw? From what evidence did you conclude that the editorial consensus at MSNBC is that it wants this guy convicted without a trial?

 

[NYcarbineer]

On MSNBC's 'Up' with Chris Hayes this morning, he put up on the screen, and read, the names of the Afghanis who were killed.

MSNBC seems to want a conviction without a trial.

What makes you say that?

Amazing isn't it? Someone at MSNBC happens to remind us that the Afghan victims were real human beings with real names and suddenly he's leading a lynch mob.

 

[paulitician]

Lets stop spending $Billions on this awful mess. The Longest War is over. Time to bring our money and our kids home.

 

[eflatminor]

Nobody gave a shit when civilians died in wars considered just. We dropped nukes on Japan then celebrated the end of the war. The only reason we're talking about this is because we stopped making war about killing the enemy and started making it about national building, democracy and other bullshit that has nothing to do with what is supposed to be the point of war.

 

[paulitician]

Nobody gave a shit when civilians died in wars considered just. We dropped nukes on Japan then celebrated the end of the war. The only reason we're talking about this is because we stopped making war about killing the enemy and started making it about national building, democracy and other bullshit that has nothing to do with what is supposed to be the point of war.

Good point. No one really knows why we're there anymore. Once they started conducting a 'Drug War' over there, i knew all was lost. That's not why we went there. It's just such a tragic mess now. So sad.

 

[Unknown_Soldier]

This kind of payment is in accordance with islamic law where a killer can buy "forgiveness" or, quisas from the bereaved and is not guilty of any crime once payment, diyya has been accepted.

U.S. abides by Sharia principles, pays $46,000 for each victim of Kandahar massacre - Jihad Watch

I don't see any real problem with abiding by sharia law in this case. We are in their country after all. The important thing is, that now that the diyya has been paid, Afghanistan has no further interest in prosecution. Bales is now a fully innocent man according to their law and only subject to military law.

Your post is 100% correct

In fact, his post is 100% wrong. A nation's courts NEVER have jurisdiction over US military UNLESS JAG surrenders jurisdiction, which they rarely do.

This is done so to protect US military members from malicious prosecution.

Not saying this guy doesn't deserve to be fried for killing these people, but the idea that we paid to satisfy Sharia is ludicrous.

 

[Gadawg73]

It would have been far worse had they been allowed access to American courts.

What court do we have access to for damages on September 11, 2001?

The same one that was available when the US backed the muj against the Russians.

Like the results?

Yes I did as Afghanistan under Soviet rule fell and the domino effect went into reverse with the Berlin Wall coming down in the finale.
Most of the weapons we used in the Revolutuinary War were made and supplied by the British before that.
War is picking sides and the results afterwards are always hard to judge where the weapons end up. Most of the weapons used in the revolutionary war here were used in previous wars.
Been that way for thousands of years.

 

[Gadawg73]

Sort of sick that under Sharia law one can murder at will, pay off the families and all of a sudden be innocent.
Fucked up system for sure. That is no "law". That is bull shit.

 

[pete]

This kind of payment is in accordance with islamic law where a killer can buy "forgiveness" or, quisas from the bereaved and is not guilty of any crime once payment, diyya has been accepted.

U.S. abides by Sharia principles, pays $46,000 for each victim of Kandahar massacre - Jihad Watch

I don't see any real problem with abiding by sharia law in this case. We are in their country after all. The important thing is, that now that the diyya has been paid, Afghanistan has no further interest in prosecution. Bales is now a fully innocent man according to their law and only subject to military law.

Your post is 100% correct

Did the accept?
Then he is off and should be set free end of story.

 

[eflatminor]

Once they started conducting a 'Drug War' over there, i knew all was lost.

Yep. Hell, let's not even call it war anymore. I say missiles launched upon another nation should henceforth be known as an "aerial time out".

 

[Sunni Man]

This kind of payment is in accordance with islamic law where a killer can buy "forgiveness" or, quisas from the bereaved and is not guilty of any crime once payment, diyya has been accepted.

U.S. abides by Sharia principles, pays $46,000 for each victim of Kandahar massacre - Jihad Watch

I don't see any real problem with abiding by sharia law in this case. We are in their country after all. The important thing is, that now that the diyya has been paid, Afghanistan has no further interest in prosecution. Bales is now a fully innocent man according to their law and only subject to military law.

Your post is 100% correct

Did the accept?
Then he is off and should be set free end of story.

Nope.

He violated the UCMJ and must be held accountable for his criminal actions.

 

[snakedoc]

The majority of the 9-11 highjacker's were Saudi did the 9-11 victims families get compensation from the Saudis just curious?

 

[hortysir]

More of your Tax Dollars at work. And the saddest part is, no amount of your Tax Dollars & apologies can ever make this right. So why are we still in Afghanistan?

The United States has paid $50,000 in compensation for each Afghan killed in the shooting spree attributed to a U.S. soldier in southern Afghanistan, an Afghan official and a community elder said Sunday.

The families of the dead received the money Saturday at the governor's office, said Kandahar provincial council member Agha Lalai. Each wounded person received $11,000, Lalai said. Community elder Jan Agha confirmed the same figures.

They were told that the money came from U.S. President Barack Obama, Lalai said.

A U.S. official confirmed that compensation had been paid but declined to discuss exact amounts, saying only that it reflected the devastating nature of the incident. The official spoke anonymously because of the sensitive nature of the subject.

A spokesman for NATO and U.S. forces declined to confirm or deny the payments, saying that while coalition members often make compensation payments, they are usually kept private.

"As the settlement of claims is in most cases a sensitive topic for those who have suffered loss, it is usually a matter of agreement that the terms of the settlement remain confidential," Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings said.

Staff Sgt. Robert Bales is accused of sneaking out of his base before dawn on March 11 then creeping into houses in two nearby villages and opening fire on sleeping families within.

It was not immediately clear how much money had been paid out in all. Afghan officials and villagers have counted 16 dead - 12 in the village of Balandi and four in neighboring Alkozai - and six wounded. The U.S. military has charged Bales with 17 murders without explaining the discrepancy.

Read More:
My Way News - Afghans: US paid $50,000 per shooting spree death
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

Not sure which is worse; the title or what I highlighted.


How much is Karzai going to compensate our soldiers' families????

 

[paulitician]

More of your Tax Dollars at work. And the saddest part is, no amount of your Tax Dollars & apologies can ever make this right. So why are we still in Afghanistan?

The United States has paid $50,000 in compensation for each Afghan killed in the shooting spree attributed to a U.S. soldier in southern Afghanistan, an Afghan official and a community elder said Sunday.

The families of the dead received the money Saturday at the governor's office, said Kandahar provincial council member Agha Lalai. Each wounded person received $11,000, Lalai said. Community elder Jan Agha confirmed the same figures.

They were told that the money came from U.S. President Barack Obama, Lalai said.

A U.S. official confirmed that compensation had been paid but declined to discuss exact amounts, saying only that it reflected the devastating nature of the incident. The official spoke anonymously because of the sensitive nature of the subject.

A spokesman for NATO and U.S. forces declined to confirm or deny the payments, saying that while coalition members often make compensation payments, they are usually kept private.

"As the settlement of claims is in most cases a sensitive topic for those who have suffered loss, it is usually a matter of agreement that the terms of the settlement remain confidential," Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings said.

Staff Sgt. Robert Bales is accused of sneaking out of his base before dawn on March 11 then creeping into houses in two nearby villages and opening fire on sleeping families within.

It was not immediately clear how much money had been paid out in all. Afghan officials and villagers have counted 16 dead - 12 in the village of Balandi and four in neighboring Alkozai - and six wounded. The U.S. military has charged Bales with 17 murders without explaining the discrepancy.

Read More:
My Way News - Afghans: US paid $50,000 per shooting spree death
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

Not sure which is worse; the title or what I highlighted.


How much is Karzai going to compensate our soldiers' families????

Zip, Nada. And if he did, it would still be our Tax Dollars. He has all his Heroin cash stashed in Switzerland.