U.S. Military Considers Climate Change a 'Threat Multiplier' That Could Exacerbate Terrorism

Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.
 
Good thread.

Conservatives must do one of two things.

Admit climate change is real and needs to be dealt with


-or-


Label the military traitors and idiots.

The Climate is changing but it is not due to man or his influence.

This threat assessment report is a fantasy "what if" game... ITS FANTASY! NO Commander in his right mind is going to make any final decision on this report or any decision without further facts collected.

IT's no wonder why the OP latched on to it... Its pure speculation without any scientific backing.
 
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Good thread.
Conservatives must do one of two things.
Admit climate change is real and needs to be dealt with
-or-
Label the military traitors and idiots.

The Climate is changing but it is not due to man or his influence.
That's your bogus denier cult myth. The world scientific community says different. The scientific evidence is overwhelming and conclusive.

You are a denier cult troll, parroting debunked myths and moronic propaganda created by the fossil fuel industry. This is obvious to almost everyone.

You refuse to answer the question!

HOW DID YOU STOP NATURAL VARIATION? Your failure to answer shows that you are purporting a lie. nothing more.
 
Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.




:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: If what you just stated were true, Australia would have a nice carbon tax in place. The US would too. All of Europe would be strangling under the economic impact of a carbon tax. That's what was going to happen in Copenhagen before CLIMATEGATE. What has been happening since then? Oh yeah...this...


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And I can go on and on and on. Which means that what you said is in fact THE LIE. And you and your fellow conspirators can go piss up a rope.
 
Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.
If what you just stated were true, Australia would have a nice carbon tax in place. The US would too. All of Europe would be strangling under the economic impact of a carbon tax. That's what was going to happen in Copenhagen before CLIMATEGATE. What has been happening since then? Oh yeah...this...
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk Environmental Finance
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading - Bloomberg

Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk is Southern Company’s Mississippi Power Latest Cap-And-Trade Setback
Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk In Latest Cap And Trade Setback Breaking Energy - Energy industry news analysis and commentary
And I can go on and on and on. Which means that what you said is in fact THE LIE. And you and your fellow conspirators can go piss up a rope.

LOLOLOL......more of the walleyedretard's REALLY illogical non sequiturs that have nothing to do with what Mamooth said, and that certainly don't have anything to do with the fact that the United States military command recognizes the threat anthropogenic global warming and climate changes pose to national and international security and the stability of our political, economic and agricultural systems and global water supplies.
 
Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.
If what you just stated were true, Australia would have a nice carbon tax in place. The US would too. All of Europe would be strangling under the economic impact of a carbon tax. That's what was going to happen in Copenhagen before CLIMATEGATE. What has been happening since then? Oh yeah...this...
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk Environmental Finance
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading - Bloomberg

Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk is Southern Company’s Mississippi Power Latest Cap-And-Trade Setback
Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk In Latest Cap And Trade Setback Breaking Energy - Energy industry news analysis and commentary
And I can go on and on and on. Which means that what you said is in fact THE LIE. And you and your fellow conspirators can go piss up a rope.

LOLOLOL......more of the walleyedretard's REALLY illogical non sequiturs that have nothing to do with what Mamooth said, and that certainly don't have anything to do with the fact that the United States military command recognizes the threat anthropogenic global warming and climate changes pose to national and international security and the stability of our political, economic and agricultural systems and global water supplies.




Actually they do. You, just like all your other silly friends, are simply too stupid to understand why.
 
Ol' Walleyes, considering all the 'facts' that you have thrown out that turned out to be straight out of your ass, maybe you had best avoid calling other stupid.
 
Ol' Walleyes, considering all the 'facts' that you have thrown out that turned out to be straight out of your ass, maybe you had best avoid calling other stupid.





Present some then.
 
Why does the military show more concern for a theory than an actual threat such as Obama's Ebola?
Whiskey kills Ebola..
Wrong answer, as usual.

Wrong answers seem to be your speciality, as is the case with the other denier cult dingbats.

Meanwhile, in the real world....

Chief of US Pacific forces calls climate biggest worry
Boston Globe

By Bryan Bender
MARCH 09, 2013
CAMBRIDGE — America’s top military officer in charge of monitoring hostile actions by North Korea, escalating tensions between China and Japan, and a spike in computer attacks traced to China provides an unexpected answer when asked what is the biggest long-term security threat in the Pacific region: climate change.

Navy Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, in an interview at a Cambridge hotel Friday after he met with scholars at Harvard and Tufts universities, said significant upheaval related to the warming planet “is probably the most likely thing that is going to happen . . . that will cripple the security environment, probably more likely than the other scenarios we all often talk about.’’

People are surprised sometimes,” he added, describing the reaction to his assessment. “You have the real potential here in the not-too-distant future of nations displaced by rising sea level. Certainly weather patterns are more severe than they have been in the past. We are on super typhoon 27 or 28 this year in the Western Pacific. The average is about 17.

Locklear said his Hawaii-based headquarters — which is assigned more than 400,00 military and civilian personnel and is responsible for operations from California to India, is working with Asian nations to stockpile supplies in strategic locations and planning a major exercise for May with nearly two dozen countries to practice the “what-ifs.”

Locklear’s two-day visit to New England, which included meetings with students at the Naval War College in Newport, R.I., coincides with the Obama’ administration’s recent “pivot” to Asia — the recalibration of national security strategy after more than decade of war in the Middle East to reemphasize a region with rising military and economic powers such as China and India and where most US trade links are.

In closed-door discussions Thursday and Friday, Locklear met with security and foreign policy specialists, including the Harvard Kennedy School’s Graham Allison, who directs the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, and Asia specialist Joseph Nye Jr..

Nye said he briefed Locklear on a trip he made last fall at the behest of the Department of State to meet with the top leaders of China and Japan to urge them to peacefully settle the disputes over islands in the South and East China Seas.

China last month was accused of directing one of its navy radars at a Japanese warship near the islands where both countries assert sovereignty and claims to fishing and mineral rights. It came several weeks after Japan said China took similar action with one of its military helicopters.

We have an ongoing number of disputes,” Locklear said. “It is not just about China and everybody else, because there are disputes between other partners down there, too. Sometimes I think the Chinese get handled a little too roughly on this."

What we are concerned most about,” he added, “is that they work through these things.

A larger concern is North Korea, which in recent days has threatened to launch a nuclear weapon against the United States.

Following Pyongyang’s recent long-range missile launch and underground nuclear test, the United Nations Security Council on Thursday voted unanimously to tighten sanctions on the reclusive Communist regime. In response the North Korean government threatened to nullify its nonaggression pacts with South Korea, where the United States maintains a military presence.

Locklear said North Korea’s military has taken recent steps to “visibly increase their levels of readiness” along the demilitarized zone that has separated the two Koreas since the armistice halting the Korean War in 1953. “We are watching very closely what’s going on and we are prepared to defend the alliance as well as our homeland,” he said.

In the interview, he stressed the need for a global set of guidelines for the Internet and cyberspace, which he called the modern version of the 19th century’s “Wild West,” where “the only security you brought with you was what you carried on you.

We made cyberspace as kind of an ungoverned territory . . . and we haven’t been able to get our arms around how to govern it yet,” Locklear added.

But when it comes to pragmatic military planning, Locklear said he is increasingly focused on another highly destabilizing force.

The ice is melting and sea is getting higher,” Locklear said, noting that 80 percent of the world’s population lives within 200 miles of the coast. “I’m into the consequence management side of it. I’m not a scientist, but the island of Tarawa in Kiribati, they’re contemplating moving their entire population to another country because [it] is not going to exist anymore.

The US military, he said, is beginning to reach out to other armed forces in the region about the issue.

We have interjected into our multilateral dialogue – even with China and India – the imperative to kind of get military capabilities aligned [for] when the effects of climate change start to impact these massive populations,” he said. “If it goes bad, you could have hundreds of thousands or millions of people displaced and then security will start to crumble pretty quickly.’’


 
Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.
If what you just stated were true, Australia would have a nice carbon tax in place. The US would too. All of Europe would be strangling under the economic impact of a carbon tax. That's what was going to happen in Copenhagen before CLIMATEGATE. What has been happening since then? Oh yeah...this...
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk Environmental Finance
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading - Bloomberg

Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk is Southern Company’s Mississippi Power Latest Cap-And-Trade Setback
Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk In Latest Cap And Trade Setback Breaking Energy - Energy industry news analysis and commentary
And I can go on and on and on. Which means that what you said is in fact THE LIE. And you and your fellow conspirators can go piss up a rope.

LOLOLOL......more of the walleyedretard's REALLY illogical non sequiturs that have nothing to do with what Mamooth said, and that certainly don't have anything to do with the fact that the United States military command recognizes the threat anthropogenic global warming and climate changes pose to national and international security and the stability of our political, economic and agricultural systems and global water supplies.
So where is the experiment that shows what 120PPM does to the climate? You got that one somewhere blunderballs?
 
Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.
If what you just stated were true, Australia would have a nice carbon tax in place. The US would too. All of Europe would be strangling under the economic impact of a carbon tax. That's what was going to happen in Copenhagen before CLIMATEGATE. What has been happening since then? Oh yeah...this...
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk Environmental Finance
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading - Bloomberg

Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk is Southern Company’s Mississippi Power Latest Cap-And-Trade Setback
Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk In Latest Cap And Trade Setback Breaking Energy - Energy industry news analysis and commentary
And I can go on and on and on. Which means that what you said is in fact THE LIE. And you and your fellow conspirators can go piss up a rope.

LOLOLOL......more of the walleyedretard's REALLY illogical non sequiturs that have nothing to do with what Mamooth said, and that certainly don't have anything to do with the fact that the United States military command recognizes the threat anthropogenic global warming and climate changes pose to national and international security and the stability of our political, economic and agricultural systems and global water supplies.
So where is the experiment that shows what 120PPM does to the climate? You got that one somewhere blunderballs?
The "experiment" is being run, without our consent, on the entire planet and the initial results are all around us, you poor deluded cretin.
 
Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.

OMFG!!!

You're totally, completely insane!

Batshit!

What a fucking nut!

Climategate destroyed the East Angelia Data Mining Operation, are they even open?

You decline Hider have all the makings of another Jonestown Cult

Drink up!!
 
Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.
If what you just stated were true, Australia would have a nice carbon tax in place. The US would too. All of Europe would be strangling under the economic impact of a carbon tax. That's what was going to happen in Copenhagen before CLIMATEGATE. What has been happening since then? Oh yeah...this...
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk Environmental Finance
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading - Bloomberg

Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk is Southern Company’s Mississippi Power Latest Cap-And-Trade Setback
Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk In Latest Cap And Trade Setback Breaking Energy - Energy industry news analysis and commentary
And I can go on and on and on. Which means that what you said is in fact THE LIE. And you and your fellow conspirators can go piss up a rope.

LOLOLOL......more of the walleyedretard's REALLY illogical non sequiturs that have nothing to do with what Mamooth said, and that certainly don't have anything to do with the fact that the United States military command recognizes the threat anthropogenic global warming and climate changes pose to national and international security and the stability of our political, economic and agricultural systems and global water supplies.
So where is the experiment that shows what 120PPM does to the climate? You got that one somewhere blunderballs?
The "experiment" is being run, without our consent, on the entire planet and the initial results are all around us, you poor deluded cretin.

Tell 'em how all the lizards are going to turn female!
 
Westwall, given how Climategate showed how most on your side were frauds, liars and thieves, why would you want to remind people of it?

Oh, that's right, that's one of those shout-outs you do for the benefit of your fellow cultists, to demonstrate to them how you're still fanatically devoted to the cult. It's much like an Islamicist publicly screaming "Allahu Ahkbar!".

So, how much does it bother you, the way your cult has cratered after Climategate? You must have managed to come to terms with your disgrace somehow. You should share your justification and rationalization tricks with other deniers, so that they'll be less likely to turn to substance abuse.
If what you just stated were true, Australia would have a nice carbon tax in place. The US would too. All of Europe would be strangling under the economic impact of a carbon tax. That's what was going to happen in Copenhagen before CLIMATEGATE. What has been happening since then? Oh yeah...this...
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk
Mabanaft to close carbon trading desk Environmental Finance
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading
ABN Amro Becomes Latest Bank to Withdraw From Carbon Trading - Bloomberg

Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk is Southern Company’s Mississippi Power Latest Cap-And-Trade Setback
Barclays Closes US Carbon Desk In Latest Cap And Trade Setback Breaking Energy - Energy industry news analysis and commentary
And I can go on and on and on. Which means that what you said is in fact THE LIE. And you and your fellow conspirators can go piss up a rope.

LOLOLOL......more of the walleyedretard's REALLY illogical non sequiturs that have nothing to do with what Mamooth said, and that certainly don't have anything to do with the fact that the United States military command recognizes the threat anthropogenic global warming and climate changes pose to national and international security and the stability of our political, economic and agricultural systems and global water supplies.
So where is the experiment that shows what 120PPM does to the climate? You got that one somewhere blunderballs?
The "experiment" is being run, without our consent, on the entire planet and the initial results are all around us, you poor deluded cretin.
Well now I know you are truly a nutjob. Dude this is so funny, do you write your own material or do you send away for it?
 
And the denier cultists continue to derail the thread and with pointless distractions and old denier myths so they can run away from the topic of the thread and the evidence that the United States Military recognizes the reality and dangers of anthropogenic global warming and its associated climate changes. These pro-war, "support-the-troops", rightwingnut denier cult nutjobs are hilariously rejecting the testimony of the current top brass at the Pentagon, as discussed in the OP, and the testimony of Admiral Locklear, the current US Commander in the Pacific region, and the testimony of these retired officers....
General Gordon R. Sullivan, USA (Ret.) - Chairman, Military Advisory Board
Admiral Frank Skip Bowman, USN (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Lawrence P. Farrell Jr., USAF (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Paul G. Gaffney II, USN (Ret.)
General Paul J. Kern, USA (Ret.)
Admiral T. Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.)
Admiral Donald L. Don Pilling, USN (Ret.)
Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.)
General Charles F. Chuck Wald, USAF (Ret.)
General Anthony C. Tony Zinni, USMC (Ret.)


Reality denial makes you insane!
 
And the denier cultists continue to derail the thread and with pointless distractions and old denier myths so they can run away from the topic of the thread and the evidence that the United States Military recognizes the reality and dangers of anthropogenic global warming and its associated climate changes. These pro-war, "support-the-troops", rightwingnut denier cult nutjobs are hilariously rejecting the testimony of the current top brass at the Pentagon, as discussed in the OP, and the testimony of Admiral Locklear, the current US Commander in the Pacific region, and the testimony of these retired officers....
General Gordon R. Sullivan, USA (Ret.) - Chairman, Military Advisory Board
Admiral Frank Skip Bowman, USN (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Lawrence P. Farrell Jr., USAF (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Paul G. Gaffney II, USN (Ret.)
General Paul J. Kern, USA (Ret.)
Admiral T. Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.)
Admiral Donald L. Don Pilling, USN (Ret.)
Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.)
General Charles F. Chuck Wald, USAF (Ret.)
General Anthony C. Tony Zinni, USMC (Ret.)


Reality denial makes you insane!
Why is that important for you?

Don't you have a teddy you carry with you to bed at night already?
 
And the denier cultists continue to derail the thread and with pointless distractions and old denier myths so they can run away from the topic of the thread and the evidence that the United States Military recognizes the reality and dangers of anthropogenic global warming and its associated climate changes. These pro-war, "support-the-troops", rightwingnut denier cult nutjobs are hilariously rejecting the testimony of the current top brass at the Pentagon, as discussed in the OP, and the testimony of Admiral Locklear, the current US Commander in the Pacific region, and the testimony of these retired officers....
General Gordon R. Sullivan, USA (Ret.) - Chairman, Military Advisory Board
Admiral Frank Skip Bowman, USN (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Lawrence P. Farrell Jr., USAF (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Paul G. Gaffney II, USN (Ret.)
General Paul J. Kern, USA (Ret.)
Admiral T. Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.)
Admiral Donald L. Don Pilling, USN (Ret.)
Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.)
General Charles F. Chuck Wald, USAF (Ret.)
General Anthony C. Tony Zinni, USMC (Ret.)


Reality denial makes you insane!
Why is that important for you?

Don't you have a teddy you carry with you to bed at night already?
And there goes JustCrazy's 10,000th post consisting of weird, pointless, meaningless, completely off-topic, kind-of-insane drivel.

He and the other cultists are having a really hard time when confronted with some aspect, like these military statements, of the cold hard fact that most of the intelligent, rational, competent people in the world recognize the reality of human caused global warming and its consequent climate changes, and are attempting to deal with the crisis. Moreover, everybody with their head screwed on right can clearly see that these deniers are duped delusional pawns of the fossil fuel industry propaganda campaign to try to preserve their profits and stock prices from the necessary restrictions on carbon emissions.
 
The "experiment" is being run, without our consent, on the entire planet and the initial results are all around us, you poor deluded cretin.

Ok Dumb Fuck.... lets look at that "experiment" shall we...?

Below are two rates of warming from the Hadcrut3 lower troposphere. One is from the period 1900 through 1950 and the the other is 1951 through 2000. Below each is the rate of warming.

trend


The trend for the period 1900-1950 is 0.51 deg C or 0.103/decade

This trend occurred before CO2 became a rapidly increasing according to the IPCC and is near or is the Natural Variational rate.

The trend for 1951-2000 is 0.50 deg C or 0.100 deg C/decade.

Now wait... this means that the two rates of warming are statistically insignificant DESPITE the rapid rise in CO2 and equal to NATURAL VARIATION..

GlobaltempChange.jpg


So by simple observation we can see the problem with the hypothesis of runaway temp caused by CO2. During the time they claim runway rise it was nothing of the sort and even given the rise in CO2 there was no discernible increase in that natural rise.

THUS CO2 IS NOT THE DRIVER by they use of the Null Hypothosies.

Experiment FAIL!
 

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