U.S. is terrorist's best hope

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    Not a fan of Dick Morris, but this is a rather interesting co-written piece on the closing of Gitmo and the prisoner dilemma.


    THE TERRORISTS' BEST U.S. HOPE

    By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

    Published in the New York Post on May 23, 2009


    THE TERRORISTS' BEST US HOPE - New York Post


    President Obama is attacking a red herring when he defends his decision to send the worst terrorists at Guantanamo to United States prisons by saying the likelihood of escape from secure federal facilities is very low.

    Of course it is. No rope ladder or prison laundry truck is likely to do the trick.

    But when it comes to federal judges, we can't be so sure.

    The reason we sent the terrorists to Guantanamo in the first place, rather than bring them onto US soil, was never really connected to worries that they might escape. The Bush administration feared, quite correctly, that if the inmates were in federal prisons on US territory, federal judges would take their pleas for constitutional rights more seriously.

    That argument is still true, and bringing the terrorists to the United States puts us at risk that they could be freed by court order.

    Some detainees will be tried in US courts on US soil. The first will be tried in New York.

    This raises two problems: First, if he is acquitted, where will he be released? Likely, he'll just be invited to walk out the door and onto the streets of New York. Second, is there a danger of terrorist retaliation or attempts to interdict the trial with violence?

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    What's your point?

    We convict drug cartel bosses all the time. You don't think the friggin colombians are dangerous?

    You pussified punks need all your panzy asses kicked by school girls. You are pathetic!
     
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    There are some very valid points there. If they are going to move them and even take the chance of their release one day why can't they dump them back into Iraq or where they were captured?
     
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    My goodness.... I suspect my pussy could make you weep for mercy....

    Now, the point, as I opened with, was that it was an interesting piece....
     
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    I'd much rather have them wandering around, wherever they came from, than wandering around here.
     
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    I'm also not a fan of the toe-sucker... but he's exactly right here...

    The entire premise of the left, with regard to revising the status of these terrorist to that of "VICTIM" is that they haven't been convicted of anything... thus detaining them is a crime; thus any stress induced in interrogating them is a crime; thus any interrogation of them is a function of trying to cull a "CONFESSION" from them... a confession or information which will lead them to being railroaded into a CONVICTION of a crime... and that crime being 'terrorism'...

    When we're not interested in convicting them, we're not interested in trying them... our interests lay across two fundamental rhetorical folds...

    First... we want to cull from them, information which will provide us the means to better prevent their comrades from attacking us, thus preventing the wholesale slaughter of innocent men, woman and children; which provides the means to better track down other Muslim terrrorist to either detain them and cull more information from THEM... or to kill them.

    Second, to prvent their further participation in the aforementioned wholesale slaughter of innocent men, woman and children.

    It's not a very complex problem... it's just well beyond the limited means of the addled minds of the ideological left.
     
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    A good question, which has a ready answer... To do so would provide the enemy with further means to attack us... thus such cannot serve the moral imperative of preventing such an attack.
     
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    The distinction between criminality and war is the disparity of the severity of the respective crime... Sure the Columbian crime syndicates are real-live bad guys... murderers of nearly the highest order...

    But they've not taken to organizing attacks upon the US which result in the deaths of 3000 innocent people and the loss of a trillion dollars in US GDP in the span of two hours; while declaring their further intent to do worse...

    The good news here is that IF they did... they'd get the same treatment that the Islamic terrorist are getting; and for the same reason.

    DUMBASS!
     
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    Oh shut the fuck up you pompus blowhard. Bush was warned ...Rice was warned and they did NOTHING. It was not a sneak attack. It worked to Bush and Cheneys advantage and they knew it so they let it happen.

    You and your holier than thou trying to look down on another american might make someone want to look you up. But I wouldn't do that. It's better to just put your arrogant ass on front street to show you as the traitor that you are.

    If the Colombians acted here like they do at home there would be thousands of judges...prosecutors and dea agents laying in the streets.

    We haven't stopped anything with how we treat anyone. You are such a moron. I spent over ten years of mylife smuggling and I know for a fact that if muslims or anyone else wanted to do harm to us there isn't a thing we could do to stop them. One of Attas room mates when he was training to fly was a fuckin FBI agent you twit.

    No even when they KNEW it was coming your heros traded a chance for wealth over the lives of americans.

    Now you have the gaul to fear monger over the chances of some taxi driver that was turned in by some war lord for ten grand. You are not an american you are a piece of shit.
     
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    Did you shout it when you were doin' it?
     

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