Discussion in 'Afghanistan' started by Kevin_Kennedy, May 11, 2009.
U.S. Foreign Policy Caused the Taliban Problem by Jacob G. Hornberger
Please Kevin, take your hateful left-wing propaganda out of this board.
Because when WE do it, it's ok, when THEY do it, it isn't. Duh. Didn't this guy learn anything in history class?
Jeez, seriously, how hateful of America do you have to be to say something like this:
Common sense is a criminal offense. Crucify this so called "Jacob Hornberger"! More like Ayatollah Adolf bin Jughashvili-il!!
The Taliban won't take over Pakistan. The Pakistani army is too powerful and too secular to allow that to happen.
We have been handling terrorists and insurgents like complete nitwits since I was in the NAV and before.
We're sort of like the Hessians.
We keep fighting the wrong wars on behalf of the wrong people the wrong way for all the wrong reasons.
But hey! ~ such policy mistakes make some very few of us very wealthy, and since only those people matter, we can expect to continue these idiotic policies until the USA is such a third world nation, it will no longer be relevant.
So sunshine patriots will just keep plastering their cars with support the troops bumper stickers and sending their children off to fight wars to make their masters wealthy and to make 12th century Islamic fiefdoms safe from modernity.
Because that's what know-nothing tools do, after all.
They drink the families values kool-aid and their sell their souls for a pittance and help their masters turn this nation into the a third world nation.
And they keep telling us this American debate is all about capitalism v. socialism because, after all, that's about how deeply they can fathom these troubled waters we're ALL adrift in.
And once the Taliban leaves Waziristan/FATA, they quickly lose their tactical advantage.
I don't agree with much of what the OP says, but he's not incorrect in saying that we are culpable for the rise of the Taliban.
On the advice of the ISI-D we exclusively funded Pashtun warlords, the two that received the bulk of the funding were Hekmatyar (of the HIG) and Juliddan Haqqani (who has the captured soldier in his custody now). We ignored more moderate (and effective) Mujahadeen like Massoud.
Then, to make matters worse, after we'd allowed the pashtun thugs to build up an army and funded it, we ignored them after the Soviets pulled out. These Pashtun Warlords would go on to become the Taliban, which were also supported by ISI-D to stabilize Afghanistan.
This might stick in the craw of some people, but it's well documented. I recommend Ghost Wars by Coll if you are interested in the details.
The Pakistani military is not secular. Not by a long shot.
Basically, we lost interest in Afghanistan after the Soviets collapsed. One of life's little ironies, though admittedly Poppy Bush had much bigger issues on his plate at the time, like restructuring the entire international system.
ALL and I do mean ALL of our problems in the Middle east are the culmination of decades of meddlesome foreign policy where we did nothing but bed hop between governments and leaders we sought to control.
The best way to fix it is to get the fuck out of the Middle East and stay out.
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