U.S. can't link accused Army private to Assange

[Two Thumbs]

By Jim Miklaszewski
Chief Pentagon correspondent
NBC News
NBC: U.S. can't link Army private to Assange - U.S. news - WikiLeaks in Security - msnbc.com


U.S. military officials tell NBC News that investigators have been unable to make any direct connection between a jailed army private suspected with leaking secret documents and Julian Assange, founder of the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks.

The officials say that while investigators have determined that Manning had allegedly unlawfully downloaded tens of thousands of documents onto his own computer and passed them to an unauthorized person, there is apparently no evidence he passed the files directly to Assange, or had any direct contact with the controversial WikiLeaks figure.




Seems we have more people that need to be arrested.

Who did he pass the info to?
What did they know?
And
Does this get Assange off the hook b/c he may not have know the secrecy level of what he was holding?

 

[California Girl]

As far as Assange is concerned..... ignorance is not a defense.

 

[Two Thumbs]

As far as Assange is concerned..... ignorance is not a defense.

I agree. However ignorance tends to lead to a verdict on a lesser crime.

Like a pawn broker having stolen goods w/o knowing they are stolen.

They should stick the private in a brig. Terms of getting out and back in jail; telling who he sold the info to.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I'm certain Army Specialist Bradley Manning passed those documents to WikiLeaks. Just like I'm certain Lt. Col. Oliver North was in charge of Iran Contra way back when.

 

[Sallow]

I'm certain Army Specialist Bradley Manning passed those documents to WikiLeaks. Just like I'm certain Lt. Col. Oliver North was in charge of Iran Contra way back when.

Ollie spent how many days in jail?

 

[Sallow]

As far as Assange is concerned..... ignorance is not a defense.

I agree. However ignorance tends to lead to a verdict on a lesser crime.

Like a pawn broker having stolen goods w/o knowing they are stolen.

They should stick the private in a brig. Terms of getting out and back in jail; telling who he sold the info to.

Assange is going to Skate. He's on his way to becoming a very rich celebrity.

Manning isn't going to be so lucky. He's going to be in a world of hurt for at least five years.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I'm certain Army Specialist Bradley Manning passed those documents to WikiLeaks. Just like I'm certain Lt. Col. Oliver North was in charge of Iran Contra way back when.

Ollie spent how many days in jail?

What was he convicted of?

 

[Sallow]

I'm certain Army Specialist Bradley Manning passed those documents to WikiLeaks. Just like I'm certain Lt. Col. Oliver North was in charge of Iran Contra way back when.

Ollie spent how many days in jail?

What was he convicted of?

North?

Oliver Laurence North (born October 7, 1943) is a former U.S. Marine Corps officer, political commentator, host of War Stories with Oliver North on Fox News Channel, a military historian, and a New York Times best-selling author.

North was at the center of national attention during the Iran-Contra affair, a political scandal of the late 1980s. North was a National Security Council member involved in the clandestine sale of weapons to Iran, which served to encourage the release of U.S. hostages from Lebanon. North formulated the second part of the plan: diverting proceeds from the arms sales to support the Contra rebel groups in Nicaragua (funding to the Contras had been prohibited under the Boland Amendment amidst widespread public opposition in the U.S. and controversies surrounding human rights abuses by the Contras). North was charged with several felonies and convicted of three, but the convictions were later vacated, and the underlying charges dismissed due to the limited immunity agreement granted for his pre-trial public Congressional testimony about the affair.[1]

Oliver North - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The whole kit and kabodoodle, Reagan included, could have been charged with Treason. Reagan violated the United States Constitution as well.

Ol' Ronnie's lucky that the American public loved him.

 

[uscitizen]

By Jim Miklaszewski
Chief Pentagon correspondent
NBC News
NBC: U.S. can't link Army private to Assange - U.S. news - WikiLeaks in Security - msnbc.com


U.S. military officials tell NBC News that investigators have been unable to make any direct connection between a jailed army private suspected with leaking secret documents and Julian Assange, founder of the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks.

The officials say that while investigators have determined that Manning had allegedly unlawfully downloaded tens of thousands of documents onto his own computer and passed them to an unauthorized person, there is apparently no evidence he passed the files directly to Assange, or had any direct contact with the controversial WikiLeaks figure.




Seems we have more people that need to be arrested.

Who did he pass the info to?
What did they know?
And
Does this get Assange off the hook b/c he may not have know the secrecy level of what he was holding?

The aremy has also not yet been able to prove the private was passing the info directly to Glenn Beck.

 

[uscitizen]

Ollie spent how many days in jail?

What was he convicted of?

North?

Oliver Laurence North (born October 7, 1943) is a former U.S. Marine Corps officer, political commentator, host of War Stories with Oliver North on Fox News Channel, a military historian, and a New York Times best-selling author.

North was at the center of national attention during the Iran-Contra affair, a political scandal of the late 1980s. North was a National Security Council member involved in the clandestine sale of weapons to Iran, which served to encourage the release of U.S. hostages from Lebanon. North formulated the second part of the plan: diverting proceeds from the arms sales to support the Contra rebel groups in Nicaragua (funding to the Contras had been prohibited under the Boland Amendment amidst widespread public opposition in the U.S. and controversies surrounding human rights abuses by the Contras). North was charged with several felonies and convicted of three, but the convictions were later vacated, and the underlying charges dismissed due to the limited immunity agreement granted for his pre-trial public Congressional testimony about the affair.[1]

Oliver North - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The whole kit and kabodoodle, Reagan included, could have been charged with Treason. Reagan violated the United States Constitution as well.

Ol' Ronnie's lucky that the American public loved him.

And that Bush I pardoned all Iran contra invovlees including himself.

Bush I Preemptive pardoning.
Bush II Preemptive invasion.

 

[manifold]

Why does it matter either way?

Assange is not an American and therefore cannot be convicted of treason against the United States.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Why does it matter either way?

Assange is not an American and therefore cannot be convicted of treason against the United States.

Treason is a hard conviction for citizens. Even if assange was a citizen he may not have been charged with it.

but he falls well into espionage.

However if he can claim ignorance he may only be charged with receiving stolen goods and passing them out.

 

[WorldWatcher]

By Jim Miklaszewski
Chief Pentagon correspondent
NBC News
NBC: U.S. can't link Army private to Assange - U.S. news - WikiLeaks in Security - msnbc.com


U.S. military officials tell NBC News that investigators have been unable to make any direct connection between a jailed army private suspected with leaking secret documents and Julian Assange, founder of the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks.

The officials say that while investigators have determined that Manning had allegedly unlawfully downloaded tens of thousands of documents onto his own computer and passed them to an unauthorized person, there is apparently no evidence he passed the files directly to Assange, or had any direct contact with the controversial WikiLeaks figure.




Seems we have more people that need to be arrested.

Who did he pass the info to?
What did they know?
And
Does this get Assange off the hook b/c he may not have know the secrecy level of what he was holding?

I said it from the beginning, if the Army had turned the case over the Jethro, Tony, Tim, Ziva, Abby, and Ducky - the case would have been solved in 44-minutes.



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[Two Thumbs]

By Jim Miklaszewski
Chief Pentagon correspondent
NBC News
NBC: U.S. can't link Army private to Assange - U.S. news - WikiLeaks in Security - msnbc.com


U.S. military officials tell NBC News that investigators have been unable to make any direct connection between a jailed army private suspected with leaking secret documents and Julian Assange, founder of the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks.

The officials say that while investigators have determined that Manning had allegedly unlawfully downloaded tens of thousands of documents onto his own computer and passed them to an unauthorized person, there is apparently no evidence he passed the files directly to Assange, or had any direct contact with the controversial WikiLeaks figure.




Seems we have more people that need to be arrested.

Who did he pass the info to?
What did they know?
And
Does this get Assange off the hook b/c he may not have know the secrecy level of what he was holding?

I said it from the beginning, if the Army had turned the case over the Jethro, Tony, Tim, Ziva, Abby, and Ducky - the case would have been solved in 44-minutes.



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That took me a minut

 

[WorldWatcher]

That took me a minut

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[Quantum Windbag]

As far as Assange is concerned..... ignorance is not a defense.

I agree. However ignorance tends to lead to a verdict on a lesser crime.

Like a pawn broker having stolen goods w/o knowing they are stolen.

They should stick the private in a brig. Terms of getting out and back in jail; telling who he sold the info to.

Actually, it means that Assange did not break any laws at all. The only chance the US had of convicting him was if they could prove he conspired with Manning to steal the documents. SCOTUS has already ruled that receiving classified documents is not a crime, which is why the NY Times did not get prosecuted for printing the Pentagon Papers.

 

[Two Thumbs]

As far as Assange is concerned..... ignorance is not a defense.

I agree. However ignorance tends to lead to a verdict on a lesser crime.

Like a pawn broker having stolen goods w/o knowing they are stolen.

They should stick the private in a brig. Terms of getting out and back in jail; telling who he sold the info to.

Actually, it means that Assange did not break any laws at all. The only chance the US had of convicting him was if they could prove he conspired with Manning to steal the documents. SCOTUS has already ruled that receiving classified documents is not a crime, which is why the NY Times did not get prosecuted for printing the Pentagon Papers.

So as long as asange works through a 3rd party he gets off scot free?