U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

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    Some of you might be of a mind to cheer, but before you do, consider this:

    By what authority does President Obama command the US military?

    That granted by the Constitution.

    How is it not a violation of the 5th Amendment to hunt down and execute an American citizen without a trial?

     
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    Because this is a war, not a criminal action.
    And Obama was lucky to have Bush before him to pave the way here for the understanding that the War on Terror is in fact a war, not a criminal police action.

    Thanks again, Mr Former President. We all miss you!
     
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    Where did he say to kill him without trial?

    Local police often authorize the use of deadly force if the suspect cannot be captured alive. Sounds like the same principle to me.
     
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    I'm sorry - not buying it. I know the N.Y. Times article says so. But I'm not buying it. We simply do not "target" people for death.

    Need to know a lot more here.
     
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    We are not at war with Yemen.

    What Obama is doing is beyond disgusting.
     
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    I'm confused. I really am here. So we worry about the 'rights' of non-US Citizens as suspected terrorists in GITMO, but this suspected terrorist has no rights as a US citizen, no right to trial or miranda?
     
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    Methinks all that Miranda stuff for the terrorists was just for show (didn't they get convicted anyway). Either that or Obama has a special grudge against this guy for some reason.
     
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    Whether it is proper for American citizens to have their photo on a "Wanted Dead or Alive" posters is a good question. For me it is a question whether preserving this guy's rights is worth the additional risk to any in our military by mandating he be taken alive? I really think we already ask too much from our soldiers and so am leaning towards Obama's decision. Although if the guy surrenders, he should get his trial.
     
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    Not to be offensive here but that is a little ignorant. The US military regularly defines targets for death. This sound to be the same thing.
    We are at war with terrorists. Yes it is a war and disgusting things are done in wars. That is the nature of the beast. What is more disgusting the bullshit outrage that the American public seems to have against military actions that must be done. It is beyond me how people cannot seem to understand how brutal warfare is and the things that go on in wars are never pretty. It is that sentiment that wants terrorists brought here and given trials as American citizens when our justice system was not built to handle that type of situation. Whether or not this individual is an American citizen is rather a distant secondary concern. The grater concerns here are his ties to enemy actions and that he is hiding abroad to do them. This makes him a military target and subject to that paradigm.
    Well said, and I do believe that if the individual in question were to surrender then they would get a trial. If they fight back is another story as it should be.
     
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    Why do people act like the entire Constitution can be ignored at will if we're at war?
     
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