U.N.: Record 1 Billion People Worldwide are Hungry

So all you did was make a bunch of general opinions. Not one statistic or fact. You can blame Liberals all you want, but it doesn't make it true.

Not one fact or statistic, what you smoking, you need to get a bit of an education my freind.

Africa has gone to hell in a hand basket since the whites have been chased out. One of the best hospitals in the world was destroyed in south africa when rule by the whites ended.

Not all people are ready for self rule.

Really? Why dont you study the Mau Mau insurrection?
 
Not one fact or statistic, what you smoking, you need to get a bit of an education my freind.

Africa has gone to hell in a hand basket since the whites have been chased out. One of the best hospitals in the world was destroyed in south africa when rule by the whites ended.

Not all people are ready for self rule.

You make a good point. While the idealists believe everyone want's "democracy". it's kind of hard to explain to someone that doesn't know what it is.

Just as it's hard to assume power when one has no experience in being in control. The PC crowd can rant all they want but their ranting flies in the face of logic an dcommon sense.

Who the hell would want democracy?


Who would not want a Republic is a better question.

Fact is since the revolution of 1775 many other revolutions have followed and millions have fled to newly created Republics and Democracies.
 
So all you did was make a bunch of general opinions. Not one statistic or fact. You can blame Liberals all you want, but it doesn't make it true.

Its my opinion that massive amounts of money have been given to fight hunger, that is not a fact, its an opinion?

So why not disprove what you consider opinion? Why not present your facts if in fact you know what your talking about.

Why do you consider your opinion as being the correct opinion and discount an opinion you disagree with simply with rhetoric.

Where are your facts, where are your statistics.

Better yet where is your "logical reason" based on education and experience in life.
 
Not one fact or statistic, what you smoking, you need to get a bit of an education my freind.

What I smoke IS my education.

Africa has gone to hell in a hand basket since the whites have been chased out.

Africa went to Hell in a hand basket (where ever the f*** that is) when Europeans GOT there. Some of the worst genocides in human recorded history occured in the Congo under Kings Leopold I and II. 10 to 30 million may have died during this era.

One of the best hospitals in the world was destroyed in south africa when rule by the whites ended.

The name of this hospital is?

Not all people are ready for self rule.

The fact that Bush ever got elected is proof of that.
 
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Its my opinion that massive amounts of money have been given to fight hunger, that is not a fact, its an opinion?

For every million given in foreign aid to most underdeveloped countries millions more are owed in debt. Haiti for instance owes millions in dollars in debt to France for bullshit charges that originate from... guess where? Colonialism! So much for the blessed white man.

So why not disprove what you consider opinion? Why not present your facts if in fact you know what your talking about.

Why do you consider your opinion as being the correct opinion and discount an opinion you disagree with simply with rhetoric.

Where are your facts, where are your statistics.

Better yet where is your "logical reason" based on education and experience in life.

I've experienced alot in life, I'm not a person who's partisan or who judges people because of their political ideologies... but I have enough experience to tell... that you ahve no clue what your talking about.
 
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i blame the hungry. plant a fucking seed, and kill a fucking animal for goodness sake

I did that once... turns out there's certain berries you shouldn't eat.

Of course... plants would be hard to find anyway in a drought striken desert & animals are a Hell of alot smarter then humans so you don't find them in places with droughts and shit. So... I guess we should all just be free-spirited pot-smoking nomads. Sounds fun. Might cause more hunger though.
 
Not one fact or statistic, what you smoking, you need to get a bit of an education my freind.

What I smoke IS my education.

Africa has gone to hell in a hand basket since the whites have been chased out.

Africa went to Hell in a hand basket (where ever the f*** that is) when Europeans GOT there. Some of the worst genocides in human recorded history occured in the Congo under Kings Leopold I and II. 10 to 30 million may have died during this era.

One of the best hospitals in the world was destroyed in south africa when rule by the whites ended.

The name of this hospital is?

Not all people are ready for self rule.

The fact that Bush ever got elected is proof of that.

Attack Bush if you wish, I hated Bush, Bush is a Socialist, Bush is not a conservative.

Name of the hospital, I will ask my friend who was born and lived in South Africa, I admit I am relying on the word of a trusted freind of many years. I take his word as fact, I dont take the media's reporting as fact.

You state one of the worst genocides "may of happened". It either did or did not, either way what happened a hundred years or more ago does not justify what happens today.

Fact is some of the worst genocides in Africa are committed by Africans against Africans and one need not go back a century to substantiate this fact.

As far as smoking your education, I am sorry to hear that. it explains much though.
 
Attack Bush if you wish, I hated Bush, Bush is a Socialist, Bush is not a conservative.

I wish. Oh, and for the record since we're finding things in common I don't believe in foreign aid either.:eusa_eh: I know. Shocking.

Name of the hospital, I will ask my friend who was born and lived in South Africa, I admit I am relying on the word of a trusted freind of many years.

You go ahead and ask 'em.

I take his word as fact, I dont take the media's reporting as fact.

Who the Hell do you know from there, Jesus? It's so... unright-wing of you to believe a foreigner over Faux Noise... but okay.

You state one of the worst genocides "may of happened". It either did or did not, either way what happened a hundred years or more ago does not justify what happens today.

The genocide DID occur the only "may or may not" in the issue is whether or not it was actually the worst genocide in African history, if the genocide killed more then 4 million then it would have topped anything in known African history, 30 million more then any in known history since the discovery of the New World.

King Leopold's Ghost - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fact is some of the worst genocides in Africa are committed by Africans against Africans and one need not go back a century to substantiate this fact..

Just like the worst genocides in Europe were commited by Europeans, the worst genocides in Asia were commited by Asians, the worst genocides in South America were commited by South Americans... I mean you get the point right? Humans commit genocide unfortunetly, branding criminal activities to one race, is irrational.

As far as smoking your education, I am sorry to hear that. it explains much though.

I'm sure you are sorry, but not to worry I've got plenty for everyone and all the doritos you can eat. ;)
 
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We all throw down a lot of shit to make it through the day, every last one of us.

Even if it is trite health shit or religion, drink or drugs, we all do it.

Darwin is a fuckhead who told us it would be this way, no other.

Now, who wants to make love to me?
 
Attack Bush if you wish, I hated Bush, Bush is a Socialist, Bush is not a conservative.

I wish. Oh, and for the record since we're finding things in common I don't believe in foreign aid either.:eusa_eh: I know. Shocking.

Name of the hospital, I will ask my friend who was born and lived in South Africa, I admit I am relying on the word of a trusted freind of many years.

You go ahead and ask 'em.



Who the Hell do you know from there, Jesus? It's so... unright-wing of you to believe a foreigner over Faux Noise... but okay.



The genocide DID occur the only "may or may not" in the issue is whether or not it was actually the worst genocide in African history, if the genocide killed more then 4 million then it would have topped anything in known African history, 30 million more then any in known history since the discovery of the New World.

King Leopold's Ghost - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fact is some of the worst genocides in Africa are committed by Africans against Africans and one need not go back a century to substantiate this fact..

Just like the worst genocides in Europe were commited by Europeans, the worst genocides in Asia were commited by Asians, the worst genocides in South America were commited by South Americans... I mean you get the point right? Humans commit genocide unfortunetly, branding criminal activities to one race, is irrational.

As far as smoking your education, I am sorry to hear that. it explains much though.

I'm sure you are sorry, but not to worry I've got plenty for everyone and all the doritos you can eat. ;)

Who do I know, from South Africa, Graham, sixty year old man, great man, would never hurt a fly, he had friends of his murdered by blacks of south africa. He bought and sold cars for a living. Graham told me many times the black housekeepers boyfriends or husbands would rob the family which employed their spouse. Always inside jobs, it did not happen ofter but when it did the owners of the home sometimes found themselves murdered. So Graham stated to me under the British rule the South Africans had access, free access to the best hospitals in the world, I did not think of asking the name of the hospital, why for, Graham had no reason to lie. Next time I see him I will ask him to explain a bit more, it may not be for awhile though, I am in the middle of a bit of travel.

Either way I stated Africa was better off under British, I did not say that it could not be improved. Nothing you have posted distracts from what I state. Further pointing out a genocide that happened under Belguim's rule of the Congo has nothing to do with the current status of South Africa.

Branding criminal activities to one race, I did not state that.

The fact is that in Africa food production has gone down since farms have been taken from whites.

Everything else we have discussed obfuscates the facts.
 
Who do I know, from South Africa, Graham, sixty year old man, great man, would never hurt a fly, he had friends of his murdered by blacks of south africa.

My grandmother has friends that were lynched by Klan members in the backwoods of Mississippi. So what? Does that mean all white people from Mississippi are bad? Probably. but does that mean that all white people are bad? No. LOL sike nah. I need sleep.

He bought and sold cars for a living.

I know alot of car salesmen from "back-in-the-day" and alot of them have seen alot of dead people. It's a kind of violent industry... they have a tendency to piss people off.

Graham told me many times the black housekeepers boyfriends or husbands would rob the family which employed their spouse. Always inside jobs, it did not happen ofter but when it did the owners of the home sometimes found themselves murdered.

Sounds like old dude should right a book.

So Graham stated to me under the British rule the South Africans had access, free access to the best hospitals in the world, I did not think of asking the name of the hospital, why for, Graham had no reason to lie.

Neither do former Nazis who deny the holocaust. No reason. None at all.

Next time I see him I will ask him to explain a bit more, it may not be for awhile though, I am in the middle of a bit of travel.

Hopefully not to South Africa.

Either way I stated Africa was better off under British, I did not say that it could not be improved. Nothing you have posted distracts from what I state. Further pointing out a genocide that happened under Belguim's rule of the Congo has nothing to do with the current status of South Africa.

South Africa wasn't the original topic either. STRAW-MAN.

Branding criminal activities to one race, I did not state that.

The fact is that in Africa food production has gone down since farms have been taken from whites.

Why exactly is that mdn? Why exactly is that?
 
So all you did was make a bunch of general opinions. Not one statistic or fact. You can blame Liberals all you want, but it doesn't make it true.

I think he blames liberals if he has a hard shit that tears his anus on it's way out.
 
Who do I know, from South Africa, Graham, sixty year old man, great man, would never hurt a fly, he had friends of his murdered by blacks of south africa.

My grandmother has friends that were lynched by Klan members in the backwoods of Mississippi. So what? Does that mean all white people from Mississippi are bad? Probably. but does that mean that all white people are bad? No. LOL sike nah. I need sleep.

He bought and sold cars for a living.

I know alot of car salesmen from "back-in-the-day" and alot of them have seen alot of dead people. It's a kind of violent industry... they have a tendency to piss people off.



Sounds like old dude should right a book.



Neither do former Nazis who deny the holocaust. No reason. None at all.



Hopefully not to South Africa.

Either way I stated Africa was better off under British, I did not say that it could not be improved. Nothing you have posted distracts from what I state. Further pointing out a genocide that happened under Belguim's rule of the Congo has nothing to do with the current status of South Africa.

South Africa wasn't the original topic either. STRAW-MAN.

Branding criminal activities to one race, I did not state that.

The fact is that in Africa food production has gone down since farms have been taken from whites.

Why exactly is that mdn? Why exactly is that?

Strawman? South Africa was not the original topic, sure it was, people are starving in Africa.

So whats your point, food production is going up? Whats your arguement, its the fault of what happened in the Congo over a hundred years ago, what is your point, you know a bit of facts about Africa thus?

What is it, you dont like if someone has first hand information that differs from your education.

I know a few more people from south africa as well, not racists. Problem is so many people get an education from newspapers and television. Or they get an education in school. So many people think they know everything, you cannot stereotype the british rule as one hundred percent evil, you cannot label all people of white color in Africa as evil and bad, that is far from the truth. You cannot demonize people of our generation based on what Europeans did over a hundred years ago.
 
Who do I know, from South Africa, Graham, sixty year old man, great man, would never hurt a fly, he had friends of his murdered by blacks of south africa.

My grandmother has friends that were lynched by Klan members in the backwoods of Mississippi. So what? Does that mean all white people from Mississippi are bad? Probably. but does that mean that all white people are bad? No. LOL sike nah. I need sleep.

He bought and sold cars for a living.

I know alot of car salesmen from "back-in-the-day" and alot of them have seen alot of dead people. It's a kind of violent industry... they have a tendency to piss people off.



Sounds like old dude should right a book.



Neither do former Nazis who deny the holocaust. No reason. None at all.



Hopefully not to South Africa.

Either way I stated Africa was better off under British, I did not say that it could not be improved. Nothing you have posted distracts from what I state. Further pointing out a genocide that happened under Belguim's rule of the Congo has nothing to do with the current status of South Africa.

South Africa wasn't the original topic either. STRAW-MAN.

Branding criminal activities to one race, I did not state that.

The fact is that in Africa food production has gone down since farms have been taken from whites.

Why exactly is that mdn? Why exactly is that?

Strawman? South Africa was not the original topic, sure it was, people are starving in Africa.

So whats your point, food production is going up? Whats your arguement, its the fault of what happened in the Congo over a hundred years ago, what is your point, you know a bit of facts about Africa thus?

What is it, you dont like if someone has first hand information that differs from your education.

I know a few more people from south africa as well, not racists. Problem is so many people get an education from newspapers and television. Or they get an education in school. So many people think they know everything, you cannot stereotype the british rule as one hundred percent evil, you cannot label all people of white color in Africa as evil and bad, that is far from the truth. You cannot demonize people of our generation based on what Europeans did over a hundred years ago.

I know something that you dont, if you dismiss my points as bullshit, you hurt yourself, not me.
 
Strawman? South Africa was not the original topic, sure it was, people are starving in Africa.

Yes and there are major metropolitan cities where people are not starving in Africa. Turns out there are starving people on other continents too.

So whats your point, food production is going up? Whats your arguement, its the fault of what happened in the Congo over a hundred years ago, what is your point, you know a bit of facts about Africa thus?

STRAW-MAN AGAIN! Heck-of-a-job. Your original assertion was that colonialism was a positive force in Africa... I gave you an example in the Congo of how it was not a positive force at all and raped an African antion of it's resources and people. You gave me an example of... what your friend from South Africa said about something about a hospital.

What is it, you dont like if someone has first hand information that differs from your education.

I'll sooner believe that FEMA has death camps somewhere in Louisiana for all the God-fearing Christmas celebraters... then I will that South Africa gave it's black citizens more rights then we get here in Americans as actual citizens.

I know a few more people from south africa as well, not racists. Problem is so many people get an education from newspapers and television. Or they get an education in school.

If you can give me the name of one hospital in South Africa that used modern western technology between 1975 and the fall of apartheid that offered the same health care services to blacks as whites (ANY SERVICES AT ALL), and back it up with any kind of factual evidence, ANY a book... picture... independent news journal... ANYTHING I will concede to you that South African British rule was not that bad.

So many people think they know everything, you cannot stereotype the british rule as one hundred percent evil, you cannot label all people of white color in Africa as evil and bad, that is far from the truth. You cannot demonize people of our generation based on what Europeans did over a hundred years ago.

Of course you can't. You can't REALLY stereotype anything including Nazi Germany as one hundred percent bad, but you can come to an overall concensus after examine Apartheid and come to the conclusion that Apartheid = wrong, Nazi internment camps = wrong, segregation = wrong... etc
 
Of course you can't. You can't REALLY stereotype anything including Nazi Germany as one hundred percent bad, but you can come to an overall concensus after examine Apartheid and come to the conclusion that Apartheid = wrong, Nazi internment camps = wrong, segregation = wrong... etc

So your saying the British behaved as the Germans during the reign of Hitler? Maybe you are, maybe your not, you really dont know what your talking about. You talk about stereotyping and that is exactly what you did with my statement, but maybe not, you say we cant stereotype Apartheid, I did not stereotype Apartheid so according to you we are now in agreement.

I never said Apartheid was not wrong, as far as hospitals and giving you a name I could give you a list of a hundred hospitals built by the British and providing care to the blacks. If you think all people who are white would not care for a black, if you think all white doctors would never give a black the best care possible than you my freind know very little about people and have thus stereotyped. How can you point out what you perceive as a stereotype while you stereotype people in the same blind manner you accuse others of.

There are studies and reports all over the internet about conditions in all of Africa. Only problem is you have to dig through a ton of propaganda put out by the opposing political view.

Yes the British were bad, but at the same time they allowed blacks into their homes and gave them, money, food, work, and clothing. They gave the Africans an oppurtunity that did not exsist. Was it perfect, nope, both sides are guilty of the worst crimes. But not all people are guilty of these crimes.

I have not stereotyped, I have simply stated what many Africans beleive, not all Africans beleive that things were better, many do, and for many different reasons.

Relevant to thread seeing how people seemed to want to discuss world hunger, Africa being in a state of constant famine thus is relevant.

you want a name of a hospital otherwise what I state is not true is about as ignorant as one can be. Sorry you were taught to stereotype the history of South Africa, there is much more to the story than you seem to know. To discount what one states without looking into the facts yourself does your education and understanding harm, not mine.

The rest of your post is not relevant to anything I posted.

You assume much and state my position based on one sentence, you sttribute things to me I never stated, its actually getting easy to punch holes in your rant.

I said nothing of colonialism yet you state that I have, either way your assertion about colonialism is not based on the facts of history.

So many good things came out of colonialism, its kind of stupid to speculate that Africa would of developed into Eden on earth without colonialism. Its just as stupid to stereotype all aspects of colonialism as bad.

Without colonialism you would not exsist, most likely we would not have the technology we have today.

I wont speculate as to what you beleive and twist your statements into meaning nothing relating to your thoughts. If you wish to continue to do this to my knowledge feel free. Its nice to see how narrow ones perspective of history is.
 

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