Tyrone Dies and Sees Hell Testimony

[guno]

An interesting subject--life after death experiences.

However, the experience is different based on background

Near-Death Experiences of Hindus

This is an article that talks about the differences between American and Hindi LAD experiences. They are not the exact same.

That isn't true. You're wrong, armchaos. Ghandi began to have the fear of hell and the realization of his doom shortly before his death. There is a thread here about Last Words of Atheists on their death bed and Ghandi' was quite unsettled just before his death - realizing he had been mistaken and as I recall even admitting it! There are testimonies of other Hindu's who have had near death or momentary death in hospital and seen hell and converted to Jesus Christ as a result of their experience.

Oh Jeremiah


The fact that reincarnation is part of Jewish tradition comes as a surprise to many people. Nevertheless, it's mentioned in numerous places throughout the classical texts of Jewish mysticism, starting with the preeminent sourcebook of Kabbalah, the Zohar

"All souls are subject to reincarnation; and people do not know the ways of the Holy One, blessed be He! They do not know that they are brought before the tribunal both before they enter into this world and after they leave it; they are ignorant of the many reincarnations and secret works which they have to undergo, and of the number of naked souls, and how many naked spirits roam about in the other world without being able to enter within the veil of the King's Palace. Men do not know how the souls revolve like a stone that is thrown from a sling. But the time is at hand when these mysteries will be disclosed. (Zohar II 99b)"

• Reincarnation is cited by authoritative classic biblical commentators, including Ramban21 (Nachmanides), Menachem Recanti 22 and Rabbenu Bachya.23Among the many volumes of the holy Rabbi Yitzchak Luria, known as the "Ari,"24 most of which come down to us from the pen of his primary disciple, Rabbi Chaim Vital, are profound insights explaining issues related to reincarnation. Indeed, his Shaar HaGilgulim, "The Gates of Reincarnation," 25is a book devoted exclusively to the subject, including details regarding the soul-roots of many biblical personalities and who they reincarnated into from the times of the Bible down to the Ari.

The Ari's teachings and systems of viewing the world spread like wildfire after his death throughout the Jewish world in Europe and the Middle East. If reincarnation had been generally accepted by Jewish folk and intelligentsia beforehand, it became part of the fabric of Jewish idiom and scholarship after the Ari, inhabiting the thought and writings of great scholars and leaders from classic commentators on the Talmud (for example, the Maharsha, Rabbi Moshe Eidels ),26 to the founder of the Chassidic Movement, the Baal Shem Tov, as well as the leader of the non-Chassidic world, the Vilna Gaon. 27

The trend continues down to this day. Even some of the greatest authorities who are not necessarily known for their mystical bent assume reincarnation to be an accepted basic tenet.

One of the texts the mystics like to cite as a scriptural allusion to the principle of reincarnation is the following verse in the Book of Job:

Behold, all these things does God do -- twice, even three times with a man -- to bring his soul back from the pit that he may be enlightened with the light of the living. (Job 33:29)


Reincarnation and Jewish Tradition

 

[guno]

Afterlife Beliefs in Judaism




The first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus stated that the Pharisees, the Jewish sect that founded rabbinic Judaism to which Paul once belonged, believed in reincarnation. He writes that the Pharisees believed the souls of evil men are punished after death. The souls of good men are "removed into other bodies" and they will "have power to revive and live again."



From time to time in Jewish history, there had been an insistent belief that their prophets were reborn. Reincarnation was part of the Jewish dogmas, being taught under the name of "resurrection". Only the Sadducees, who believed that everything ended with death, did not accept the idea of reincarnation. Jewish ideas included the concept that people could live again without knowing exactly the manners by which this could happen.



Josephus records that the Essenes of the Dead Sea Scrolls lived "the same kind of life" as the followers of Pythagoras, the Greek philosopher who taught reincarnation. According to Josephus, the Essenes believed that the soul is both immortal and preexistent, necessary for tenets for belief in reincarnation.



The Dead Sea Scrolls prove that the Jewish mystical tradition of divine union went back to the first, perhaps even the third century B.C.E. Jewish mysticism has its origins in Greek mysticism, a system of belief which included reincarnation. Among the Dead Sea Scrolls, some of the hymns found are similar to the Hekhaloth hymns of the Jewish mystics. One text of hymns gives us clear evidence of Jewish mysticism. The text is called "Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice." Fragments of 1 Enoch, which is considered the oldest text of Jewish mysticism, were also found with the Scrolls. Since evidence shows Jewish mysticism existed in the third century B.C.E., as Enoch indicates, then it would certainly have existed in first-century Israel.

Reincarnation has been a belief for thousands of years for orthodox Jews. The Zohar is a book of great authority among Kabbalistic Jews. It states the following:

"All souls are subject to revolutions. Men do not know the way they have been judged in all time." (Zohar II, 199b)

That is, in their "revolutions" they lose all memory of the actions that led to their being judged.

Another Kabbalistic book, the Kether Malkuth states:

"If she, the soul, be pure, then she shall obtain favor... but if she has been defiled, then she shall wander for a time in pain and despair... until the days of her purification." (Kether Malkuth)

How can the soul be defiled before birth? Where does the soul wander if not on this or some other world until the days of her purification? The rabbis explained this verse to mean that the defiled soul wanders down from paradise through many births until the soul regained its purity.

A Brief Survey of the Afterlife Beliefs in Judaism

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Guno, you are speaking of fables taught by the sages not the Scriptures found in Torah and Tanach (the Old Testament in the bible) The Word of God is true and the Word of God states a man is given one life and then comes death and then comes the judgment. Stop believing in fables.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Would you take the word of a guy suffering a drug overdose on anything he saw or is it just when they see hell that you find them credible?

Tell me this. What would be his motivation in making up such as story and wouldn't the fact that he returned to base after going AWOL - accepted his punishment and gave his life fully to Christ be evidence of true and godly repentance? Furthermore, how could he and the Muslim and the two Hindu;s, the atheist, the Jehovah witness and other testimonies on this thread have all come to the same exact conclusion when none of them had ever met each other?

What you are suggesting (that he is delusional) is simply not possible because his actions after the overdose were most rational. All indicating his experience to have been life changing - just as it was for the Muslim, the Hindu's (both of them) the Jehovah Witness, the atheist professor......... these people all became followers of Jesus Christ. Coincidence? What would be the odds of that? 10 trillion to 1?

 

[hadit]

Hell is the only childish fantasy even more moronic than Heaven. Stop worrying about going to Hell, you already live there. The only question is, what'd you do to get here?

How many times have you died again?

They cannot be numbered.

I did, and the number is less than one.