Tyrant Obama Admin: Files lawsuit to force Boeing to use union labor!!! WOW!!

[mnbasketball]

Oh lets be a little trueful guys. The south is not full of qualified workers and they are using the downturn in the economy to attract good paying jobs to a low paying area and give them little of anything other than a place to show up and do what they are told for the amount that the company want to give them.

But the truth is 15 years down the line we will see that people will want more things than just a job and all of a sudden these companies will move again. When they see a company that is making billions and paying top exc's 100 to 500 times the workers will start to look around and say why are we worth crap, living like dogs with no benefits.
But lets tell the truth about how this factory was built, because most likely the state gave big incentives for them to build, low taxes and cheap property.

But can one of you idiots that wants a company to pay less and screw their workers while they pad their coffers tell us that what this new company will do will cause any tax payer or any citizen who might fly in any plane they make to pay less.

It's a lot like Nike and their 10 cents an hr labor producing tennis shoes that have a cost from production to sold of like 22.00 being sold for 122.00 a pair. Sure cut the cost of those shoes didn't it.
Kinda like the TV's that used to be made in USA by good american workers are now made in sweat shops overseas and sold for 1000.00 when the cost of labor and parts is around 100.00 maybe.

Isn't it a little funny why the price of a loaf of bread or a gal of milk or a gal of gas cost just as much in a non union state as it does in a union state. Why aren't cars that are made by workers who make half as much with little benefits cost the same as it did when it was made in by Unions.

 

[Two Thumbs]

We live in a Gangsta Gubmint Thugocracy these days, donchanow?

As the rich get richer and the wealth gap grows.

What did the wealthy do to deserve such a disproportionate amount?

No one deserves to be sued and ordered around by the government you fucking slave.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Oh lets be a little trueful guys. The south is not full of qualified workers and they are using the downturn in the economy to attract good paying jobs to a low paying area and give them little of anything other than a place to show up and do what they are told for the amount that the company want to give them.

But the truth is 15 years down the line we will see that people will want more things than just a job and all of a sudden these companies will move again. When they see a company that is making billions and paying top exc's 100 to 500 times the workers will start to look around and say why are we worth crap, living like dogs with no benefits.
But lets tell the truth about how this factory was built, because most likely the state gave big incentives for them to build, low taxes and cheap property.

But can one of you idiots that wants a company to pay less and screw their workers while they pad their coffers tell us that what this new company will do will cause any tax payer or any citizen who might fly in any plane they make to pay less.

It's a lot like Nike and their 10 cents an hr labor producing tennis shoes that have a cost from production to sold of like 22.00 being sold for 122.00 a pair. Sure cut the cost of those shoes didn't it.
Kinda like the TV's that used to be made in USA by good american workers are now made in sweat shops overseas and sold for 1000.00 when the cost of labor and parts is around 100.00 maybe.

Isn't it a little funny why the price of a loaf of bread or a gal of milk or a gal of gas cost just as much in a non union state as it does in a union state. Why aren't cars that are made by workers who make half as much with little benefits cost the same as it did when it was made in by Unions.

What the fuck does that have to do with obama becoming a dictator?

Is your head so far up your ass you refuse to see what's going on?

 

[mudwhistle]

The beginning of the end of union labor was also the beginning of the end of the middle class.

Why is it ok for the capitalists to keep a such a disproportionate amount of the profits? Why is it ok for the wealthy to possess such a disproportionate amount or our nations wealth? What did they do to earn it?

Unions are just one way to help ensure the working class is not reduced into serfdom.

Because this is America, where it's okay to make evil profits. It's okay to make so much money that you can bury yourself in a mountain of coke.



Oh, cut the fucken shit and get real numb-nuts.

The Dems get their cash from union dues so they don't give a flying-fuck if the wealth is spread around as long as their coffers are full.

 

[mudwhistle]

We live in a Gangsta Gubmint Thugocracy these days, donchanow?

As the rich get richer and the wealth gap grows.

What did the wealthy do to deserve such a disproportionate amount?

I don't know.

Give me some examples of wealthy fuckers that don't deserve the big-bucks.

Or are you just trying to pass off something so general you can't nailed down on it?

 

[KissMy]

Obama is forcing more companies to send jobs out of the USA.

Big U.S. Firms Shift Hiring Abroad

U.S. multinational corporations, the big brand-name companies that employ a fifth of all American workers, have been hiring abroad while cutting back at home, sharpening the debate over globalization's effect on the U.S. economy.

The companies cut their work forces in the U.S. by 2.9 million during the 2000s while increasing employment overseas by 2.4 million, new data from the U.S. Commerce Department show. That's a big switch from the 1990s, when they added jobs everywhere: 4.4 million in the U.S. and 2.7 million abroad.

 

[code1211]

Reagan committed treason, violated the Constitution and was a terrible president.

His handling of the the Air Traffic controller's situation probably is one of the factors that contributed to 9/11.

Apples and oranges. Plus, that was 20 years ago.

Now, do you have a comment regarding the current tyrant in the White House that has directed the federal gov't to punish private company Boeing for not using it's preferred source of labor?

I thought Obama said we're all responsible for each other? Well, Boeing is doing it's part to create jobs. Why is Obama punishing them with a federal lawsuit?

What apple and oranges?

Boeing gets a good amount of government pork. If their workers want Union..they should go Union. Simple as that.

I don't understand how this observation is is associated with the discussion.

 

[code1211]

Boeing lawsuit: South Carolina vs. big labor | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment

My God, are we now the USSA?? (For stupid libs, thats akin to USSR, which to also add, is bad).

The Obama Admin has now filed a lawsuit against Boeing. Why? Boeing was tired of dealing with unions in Seattle. So, they took their new Dreamliner production planet, and built it in non-union North Charleston, South Caroline, bringing 5,000-8,000 good paying jobs to the area. The planet in SC is almost finished, with work about to start.

Now Tyrant Obama has filed a federal lawsuit claiming, get this, DISCRIMINATION!!!! They say Boeing is discriminating against union workers.....by daring build a plant in non-union South Carolina. Our federal government is trying to force a private company to use their preferred labor pool. The lawsuit seeks to force Boeing to relocate that new plant in SC back to Seattle.

Never in my wildest imagination could I have thought the United States government would begin filing lawsuits to force a private company to locate it's operations in the politicially preferred choice of the US government. It's basically a political assault on right wing South Carolina. Tyrant tactics, no doubt about it. Chicago thuggery in plain sight.

So now, even if Boeing wins that lawsuit, which they will, Boeing is gonna have to shell out millions of dollars to defend this suit.

Is this how Obama's Admin is gonna do business? SUE companies that provide jobs....for daring not use union labor? Punish states that voted against him with lawsuits against any non-union company within it's borders?

How anyone can continue to support Tyrant Obama baffles me.

The "Obama Administration" did not file the lawsuit.

The lawsuit was triggered by a March 2010 complaint from the IAMAW, which has engaged in five strikes against Boeing between 1977 and 2008.

The NLRB said its investigation found that the company violated two sections of the National Labor Relations Act in 2009 when it picked Charleston International Airport as the site of its second 787 assembly plant, rather than expanding its existing factory in Everett.

Get your facts straight before you go off half-cocked.

Why should the government have any say at all on when, where and how a private company chooses to build products for sale if all of the HS about the environmental impact is equal between the sites?

Will the goernment also go to bat for the 8000 newly unemployed at the new location? This is a can of worms the government does not need to open.

A profitable American company wants to employ Americans and the Obama Administration is fighting to keep this from happening. That's all we need to know.

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

 

[bripat9643]

No, the jobs won't be "gone". They'll just be in Seattle. The suit seeks to force Boeing to relocate that plant to Seattle. The massive factory that was just built in North Charleston would just be a big ass vacant building. Read me upcoming thread regarding Boeing, SC, and green energy. It's gonna be epic.

The factory in SC is already built. Boeing spent $2 billion on it. Forcing them to move it back to Seattle would mean $2 billion flushed down the toilet. Plus it would mean delaying production of the 787 Dreamliner. I can't imagine a better way to destroy a great company. That's how Democrats create jobs.

 

[bripat9643]

if boeing doesn't like the governments stipulations then they can stop bidding on federal contracts.

What if the government "stipulates" that Boeing refuse to hire Mexicans or Blacks?

You just admitted you don't give a flying fuck if government demands are legal or just.

How beautifully liberal!

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, what the article said is that Boeing violated the law by retaliating against the workers in WA, which it cannot do.

Now, I don't know if the allegations have merit or not. I don't even know if the law has merit. Generally, companies should be able to relocate plants to wherever they wish. And on its face, I would generally back Boeing. But that is what the suit is about.

The suit is utter horseshit. Building a plant in another location has never been considered "retaliation." If it is, then government will be in the business of deciding where corporations build their plants. We're only a couple steps removed from the kind of fascism practiced in Nazi Germany as it is. This is one more step in that direction.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Remember during all the Wisconsin brouhaha, when we heard repeatedly from the Right that it was the public sector unions they had a problem with,

NOT the private sector unions?

REMEMBER???

And remember how some of us laughed our asses off at that LIE??

well, here you go.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Apples and oranges. Plus, that was 20 years ago.

Now, do you have a comment regarding the current tyrant in the White House that has directed the federal gov't to punish private company Boeing for not using it's preferred source of labor?

I thought Obama said we're all responsible for each other? Well, Boeing is doing it's part to create jobs. Why is Obama punishing them with a federal lawsuit?

What apple and oranges?

Boeing gets a good amount of government pork. If their workers want Union..they should go Union. Simple as that.

I don't understand how this observation is is associated with the discussion.

Maybe it just goes to that conservative nonsense about how the government can't create jobs.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Actually, what the article said is that Boeing violated the law by retaliating against the workers in WA, which it cannot do.

Now, I don't know if the allegations have merit or not. I don't even know if the law has merit. Generally, companies should be able to relocate plants to wherever they wish. And on its face, I would generally back Boeing. But that is what the suit is about.

The suit is utter horseshit. Building a plant in another location has never been considered "retaliation." If it is, then government will be in the business of deciding where corporations build their plants. We're only a couple steps removed from the kind of fascism practiced in Nazi Germany as it is. This is one more step in that direction.

Have you read the National Labor Relations Act?

 

[bripat9643]

That's pure Marxist horseshit. Wages, on average, account for 70% of the cost of most products. Capital costs account for most of the rest. Executive salaries are a very small fraction of the costs. Profits go to the stock holders, who are mostly average people like you and me with 401Ks or union members.

You're nothing more than a commie union thug pumping out totally bogus propaganda.

Oh lets be a little trueful guys. The south is not full of qualified workers and they are using the downturn in the economy to attract good paying jobs to a low paying area and give them little of anything other than a place to show up and do what they are told for the amount that the company want to give them.

But the truth is 15 years down the line we will see that people will want more things than just a job and all of a sudden these companies will move again. When they see a company that is making billions and paying top exc's 100 to 500 times the workers will start to look around and say why are we worth crap, living like dogs with no benefits.
But lets tell the truth about how this factory was built, because most likely the state gave big incentives for them to build, low taxes and cheap property.

But can one of you idiots that wants a company to pay less and screw their workers while they pad their coffers tell us that what this new company will do will cause any tax payer or any citizen who might fly in any plane they make to pay less.

It's a lot like Nike and their 10 cents an hr labor producing tennis shoes that have a cost from production to sold of like 22.00 being sold for 122.00 a pair. Sure cut the cost of those shoes didn't it.
Kinda like the TV's that used to be made in USA by good american workers are now made in sweat shops overseas and sold for 1000.00 when the cost of labor and parts is around 100.00 maybe.

Isn't it a little funny why the price of a loaf of bread or a gal of milk or a gal of gas cost just as much in a non union state as it does in a union state. Why aren't cars that are made by workers who make half as much with little benefits cost the same as it did when it was made in by Unions.

 

[bripat9643]

That's what politicians say. All unions are nothing more than criminal gangs. They are extortion rackets, and that's exactly what this is: extortion.

Remember during all the Wisconsin brouhaha, when we heard repeatedly from the Right that it was the public sector unions they had a problem with,

NOT the private sector unions?

REMEMBER???

And remember how some of us laughed our asses off at that LIE??

well, here you go.

 

[Hot Wire]

how mentally ill do you have to be to want to use scabs instead of union labor.

what barn did you grow up in?

wackos.

You stupid asshole,Who are you to say where they build thier planes.ITS THIER BUSINESS!

 

[bripat9643]

The suit is utter horseshit. Building a plant in another location has never been considered "retaliation." If it is, then government will be in the business of deciding where corporations build their plants. We're only a couple steps removed from the kind of fascism practiced in Nazi Germany as it is. This is one more step in that direction.

Have you read the National Labor Relations Act?

Please quote the text where it says the government can tell a corporation where to build a new plant.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That's what politicians say. All unions are nothing more than criminal gangs. They are extortion rackets, and that's exactly what this is: extortion.

Remember during all the Wisconsin brouhaha, when we heard repeatedly from the Right that it was the public sector unions they had a problem with,

NOT the private sector unions?

REMEMBER???

And remember how some of us laughed our asses off at that LIE??

well, here you go.

Well, at least you own up to what the Right honestly feels about all unions. I was merely referring to all the rightwing fucks around here who were lying through their teeth.

 

[bripat9643]

Maybe it just goes to that conservative nonsense about how the government can't create jobs.

You think this is an example of the government creating jobs?