Tyranny: The greater evil behind the liberals...

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  1. ooghost1oo
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    You'll see my hatred for liberalism in a lot of the articles and various other things I post, but 'liberalism' (in the way I define it: socialist leftism), is really the symptom of a bigger problem, and a bigger enemy.

    Supporters of Socialism are like naive activists--it's all about ideals to make humanity live in harmony with no one holding the low end of the stick. All those hippies, worshipers of of the murderer Che Guevara, brainwashed Obama Kool-aid drinkers, etc.; through their philosophically immature views on how the world should be, they open the gates for mankind's most terrible enemy:

    Tyranny.

    The antithesis to individual freedom (and radical capitalists, objectivists, and 'godless conservatives' like me) is the tyrant. The tyrant comes in many forms and different flavors, be it collective or fascist, but it all boils down to the same thing.

    Power, through the threat of force, to violate the freedoms of the individual.

    When I rail and fight against liberals, it's more to wake up the brainwashed sheep who just parrot the feel-good stuff they hear from the tyrants in power, than it is a battle against the liberals themselves. I've heard it said that this out-of-control government, to reach its desired level of power and conquer the people of this nation, is focused on dividing us and encouraging us to fight among ourselves. This is true.

    Conservatives are guilty of not seeing the ploy of the larger enemy, and focusing their resistance and resources on liberals.

    Liberals are guilty of being thoughtless tools with undeveloped, immature perspectives, who fight the conservatives with their silly bullshit and blindingly follow their powerful masters who control them with guilt to accomplish their sinister aims.

    Liberals, themselves, are not really the enemy. They're a symptom of a bigger disease. The followers, anyway. The masses (no brain, but a million mouths) are mostly harmless, except for when their masters rile them up to do (vote on) their bidding. As individuals, liberals will either 'grow out' of their views the more they face reality, or become total douche-bags who blather about liberal bullshit and aren't really taken seriously by normal people.

    The liberals in power, however--they are the real enemy. And not only the liberals. Many republicans and conservatives would cheerfully see this country turned into a police state. Bush proved to be an enemy to freedom with his 'war on terror' that allowed American citizens to be spied on without consent. Obama is an enemy to freedom because he's an idealistic collectivist, and he's doing as much as he can to make America a socialist nation.

    It's been said that, under a Republican administration, America is creeping toward tyranny, and under a Democratic administration, it's GALLOPING. The true enemy is a rampant government, left unchecked with too much power over its people.

    I've seen it said that conservative talk-show hosts (Hannity, Rush--I don't know about Glenn Beck) are boot-licking authority lovers. I love a lot of what they say to America, but I think that may be true. They unfailingly support the Republicans, even when Republicans try and steer the country to their own brand of tyranny.

    And liberals are just retarded. I can't ever take them seriously. Anyone with an ounce of brains who studies the world to better understand reality, knows that collectivism (ANY form of socialism, no matter how slight) is counter-productive to the progress and betterment of mankind (on a large or individual level). Collectivism has always failed where-ever it has been tried, because it is fundamentally flawed and can never work. Where-ever (or if-ever) it succeeds, the result will not be idealized socialism, but instead, a society controlled by the corrupted elite in power. Which is not their ideal.

    The problem is the corrupted elite in power. We should have never let the government get big enough to the point where it no longer feared the people. We'd better not let it get any worse.

    Conservatives out there: you've got to realize where the real threat is. Pelosi, Obama, Clinton, Reid, all the other liberals in power ... Yes, you know how they're a problem and you're fighting it in whatever way you can (if you are), and that's a good thing. Did you know that Obama, since he realized he couldn't just 'take' away peoples' guns without sparking a serious conflict, is working on a way to let the United Nations have some legal power here in the US that would circumnavigate the Constitution and allow them to extradite people that refuse to obey their gun laws?

    But, before you're so quick to follow and defend the Republicans, ask yourself if this law or that law or whatever they're doing is for or against your individual freedom? Consider no fear. No compromise. Does it violate your individual constitutional freedom or not? If so, then they are your enemy and not to be trusted.

    And liberals: just grow the fuck up. Read some Ayn Rand (one of the best-ever insights into Capitalism and philosophy). Study some history. Expand your mind, and pull your head out of the trees and the rosy emissions of your hybrid cars. Can you really have any respect for yourself if you rely on the efforts of anyone other than yourself? Respect reality, and get to know the nature of mankind--not what 'would be nice'. And grow a damned back-bone. Stop being so offended, and stop trying to be politically correct.

    The only and best political system that will ever allow mankind thrive and be happy is Capitalism. Unrestricted Capitalism. That's why America came out on top and has been the best ever since this nation was born. Because enjoying our individual freedoms and being free to follow our own paths is the only way to truly live, and the only way we can reach our real individual potential.

    Reality and logic will always point you in this way. The right way is always clear when you are honest with yourself. All you have to do is look, and allow yourself to see.

    We are a country that stands alone. But, someone who enjoys real freedom will always have the wolves at their door trying to take it away.

    And the wolves are all around us. The federal government is at the point now where it pretty-much does what it wants--and doesn't even care to hide it anymore. The pathetic thing is, though, what do we do about it? Watch? Talk? Pretend it isn't happening and play with our cell phones?

    I fight liberalism because I believe collectivism is evil and sucks the life out of man. But the tyrant is the greater enemy, and the corrupt will sit on the top of the socialist pile of bodies and damn us all.
     
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    Yea, man. Put that tinfoil hat on, hide under the bed. The big, bad bogee is going to get you.

    Lordy, lordy. Paranoic dingbats we have in a surpluss.
     
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    Do you really know what liberal means? For example classical liberalism is defined as the following: doctrine stressing individual freedom, free markets, and limited government. This includes the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, individual freedom from restraint, equality under the law, constitutional limitation of government, free markets, and a gold standard to place fiscal constraints on government. So this equals free market capitalism (laizzes-faire capitalism).

    Liberals are not for the collectivist way of thinking as socialist or communist are. Liberals are all about free-markets and individual rights etc. Make sure that u know which terms/definitions you are bashing, so others don't get the wrong message from you.

    Other than that, i totally agree with you that unrestricted capitalism is the only solution, which allows individual to act as they wish and not be forced by the government,their never ending legislations and bailout etc. etc. etc.

    one of my favourite websites is mises.org, which talks about austrian economics, that advocate free-markets. Check it out, if u truly have a capitalistic mind frame like i do, then you will love it.
     
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    Classical liberalism no longer exists in the U.S.

    "Liberal" is now more of a label for someone who favors liberal use of taxpayer dollars, liberal expansion of government, and liberal application of government force.

    You can pretend that this is back in the day of JFK or whatever but classical liberalism truly ended with FDR. Kennedy was just a minor lapse from the increasing trend of liberalism towards authoritarian, socialist principles.

    Reading Bernie Goldberg's books helps to illustrate this perfectly. He used to be liberal when it was in its Kennedy-esque classical liberalism shape, but since that time he realized liberalism was tainted and had shifted more to an ideology that represents the principles of FDR and not Andrew Jackson, thus more akin to a milder version of European socialism.

    So you can talk about classical liberalism all you want but it just does not exist anymore. Sure, there are classical liberals out there but they define themselves as libertarians now just as Bernie Goldberg does.

    The definitions of words change over time, and those changes have been apparent in the definitions of liberals and conservatives.
     
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    Thank you. Every time I refer to liberals (I even defined, up there, liberals in my context as 'socialist leftists') someone has to point out that 'liberal' is the founder philosophy. The meaning of the term has changed to represent modern context. Just like the word 'gay'.
     
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    Whatever you wish to call us, we have the Executive, the Congress, and the Senate. And given the intelligence with which you people are conducting yourselves, we will have all of those for a number of elections.

    Go ahead, send us Snow, Collins, Crist, and McCain. And any other Republicans that demonstrate an ounce of sanity.
     

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