Type of government

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    since i've been posting on boards, a few years and really only got into politics a few years ago, i keep seeing a recurring theme.....what type of government is this program, this philosophy, this agenda.....this war....etc...

    the US does not have true capitalism, doesn't have true socialism, doesn't have true communism and so forth.

    when a repub runs, libs scream big money and how they hate they hate the poor, though never offering what type of government this is, except to say....capitalism or a new one i read, corporatism.....which i don't see how that is any different than capitalism....

    when a lib runs for office, the screams are of socialism, communism etc.....

    we have unemployment, social security, medicare, disability etc.....both parties seem to fight over them and both claim their right.....and now healthcare....

    what ism are these programs?
     
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    Americanism.
     
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    Economies are described in isms a lot aren't they? Feudalism, mercantilism, capitalism, socialism, communism. I can't find an ism for a slavery-based economy though, but someone might know the word.

    But government programmes are just public policy, they're not isms of themselves, although they are embedded in an ism I think.
     
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    Creeping incrementalism, toward totalitarianism.
     
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    ah...

    so then the claims that obama is a socialist or communist are false....he is an american
     
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    while witty......what does this mean other saying our current ism is creeping towards another ism....

    i could make that claim about nearly anything.....what say you to the specific programs i mentioned or any other programs you care to talk about.
     
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    European-style socialism. Every one of them.
    Social Security was copied from Bismark's Germany (why is the retirement age 65?). Others follow in turn.
    There are no absolutes. China is not absolutely communist. The US is not absolutely capitalist. They are both mixed on different points on the continuum.
     
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    In my opinion, you are asking the wrong question. It doesn't matter what "ism" people wish to attach to any program(s). What is important, is whether or not the programs are constitutional. That is the proverbial bottom line.

    If you don't truly care to get to the bottom line, you will ism yourself away.
     
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    When has being constitutional ever gotten in the way of a program? And that goes back to the founders themselves.
     
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    Social Security
    Medicare/Medicaid
    The "war" on poverty and all its attendant do-gooder programs
    Farm subsidies
    Gubmint schools
    The FDA, FCC, HUD, SEC, and the rest of the Alphabet Soup Mob

    That a good enough start?
     

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