Two quotes, who said them?

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    Because of a discussion in another thread, I am interested to see how many will answer these questions correctly.

    The first quote;
    From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    Who said it, or who popularized it. Does this 'slogan' fit the traditional American set of values?

    The second quote;
    He who does not work, neither shall he eat.

    Who said it, or who popularized it. Does this 'slogan' fit the traditional American set of values?

    Thanks in advance for your civil respones!
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    Marx, and no, it does not "fit."

    This is from II Thessalonians, and it was the slogan used by Captain John Smith when he set up Jamestown. As far as I'm concerned, it makes sense, despite Lenin's use of the phrase.
     
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    Marx and Lenin. As hj has pointed out.

    Marx's comments probably don't fit with traditional American values.

    Lenin's remarks were in the context of a civil drama and part of a criticism of exploiters during a time of food shortage.

    Quotes, as with many things, depend on context.
     
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    You already got an answer as to the authors so I will answer your questions very briefly. If you want me to go into more detail i can.

    The first quote does not fit american values.
    The second quote does not fit american values.
     
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    That's a contradiction. If the latter is not true, then American values call for all to be able to eat and have the other resources they need, even those unable to work. Since no man can reasonably be expected to do more than he is able, this means Louis Blanc's paraphrasing of Henri de Saint Simon (Marx did not originate the phrase) is in line with American values unless you believe America expects a man to do more than he is possibly able.

    The first quote is in line with the virtues of progressive and humanitarian Americans. The latter is in line with the Bourgeois capitalists and the ideology they foster.

    except for when the latter term is used in communo-socialist circles as an attack upon the Oisifs (parasitic Bourgeois), to imply that they should not be allowed benefit from the labour of others and act as parasites upon society- such usage, however, leads to much need for clarification, and for that reason i consider it an inappropriate slogan.
     
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    Kathi?
     
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    The first quote describes how civilized humans would live.

    The second quote describes how animals in the wild would live.
     
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    I said that, and enjoyed our evening as well.
     

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