Two Net Victories!

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    Google News is going to watch for hate speech, (Not google search, that is a 1st amendment deal):

    http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3492361

    This last comment is probably due to outrage from the blogosphere!

    The second has to do with FEC trying to use McCain Feingold to control blogs and their ability to add to political coffers. Seems the reaction has had an effect:

    http://www.democracy-project.com/archives/001396.html

     
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    Re point #2 - I'll be watching these developments with great interest. I have always thought that this particular incarnation of the Conservative Revolution has been successful primarily because its movers and shakers have recognized the true enemy, and engaged him effectively. Is it liberalism, or the Democrat Party? Absolutely not. Their insanity has been - and continues to be - resoundingly rejected by the American people. When the people are permitted to witness - unfiltered and unadorned - the hateful, dishonest, America-hating lunacy gushing from the hearts of these buffoons, the country draws ever-nearer to sanity.

    The only time liberals are able to succeed in the public arena is when they're able to fool America as to who actually lurks behind the benign rhetoric. This used to be a fairly easy proposition - back when the only sources of information were controlled by these selfsame liberals. Talk radio, Fox News, and the blogosphere have smashed that monopoly, and the slow death of liberal tyranny has begun.

    But, as I have warned numerous times in the past, tyrants do not go gently into that good night. In the absence of some control over the dissemination of information, liberal tyranny is a dead man walking. He is, therefore, a desperate, dangerous man.

    If tyranny cannot withstand the light of day, its only option for survival is to abolish daylight. Keep your eyes PEELED, my friends - they're coming for the internet!
     
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    Many links, many problems...

    http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17487

     
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    That it has. Liberal tyranny, too, has identified its true enemy - the unfettered, unfiltered exchange of information. The task of abolishing daylight is underway. It is liberalism's only chance.

    It figures that Soros would be up to his eyeballs in this attack on freedom.
     
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    I imagine he will be-----guess we'll see how powerful his money is !
     
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    No joke, same with PEW.
     
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    My guess is, pretty damned powerful.

    It saddens and frightens me that, "who controls the flow of information controls the reins of power". It points up the truth of a statement like, "If you tell Americans - enough times a day, and without any bothersome interference by words to the contrary - that the sky is plaid, a significant number of them will wind up rooting through their closets, looking for a matching belt". We are a lethargic, easily-led people.
     
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    Agreed---and money can influence the flow of information---price we pay I guess, but it still pisses me off.
     
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    Absolutely - and money that seeks to advance tyranny is the most dangerous of all. These bastards KNOW that they must halt the free flow of information, or die.
     
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    Here's some more concerns about this topic.

    The Coming War on Blogs
    By James D. Miller for Tech Central Station
    March 25, 2005

    It's a universal law of capitalism: when an industry faces a new and significant threat to its profits and powers it turns to the government for protection. Well, bloggers who write on current events are challenging the mainstream media (MSM), the most politically well-connected industry in America. Watch for the MSM to start using their political influence to burden bloggers.

    But won't the First Amendment protect blogs? Unfortunately, courts already hold that many governmental restrictions on speech don't violate the First Amendment, and I can think of three areas in which the MSM might successfully change laws and regulations to hinder their blogger competitors:

    1. Campaign Finance Reform -- Blog entries in support of a candidate could be considered political contributions to that candidate. The danger for most bloggers would lie not in contributing more than the legally permissible amount to a candidate, but rather in having to fill out the paperwork necessary to report their "political contributions".

    The MSM, of course, would never permit their editorials in favor of a candidate to be considered political contributions. So to use campaign finance reform against bloggers, courts would have to distinguish between bloggers and the "legitimate" media. Any definition of bloggers will be imprecise, but this won't stop courts because most legal categories already have fuzzy boundaries. To define a blogger, courts could simply use the "I know it when I see it" approach famously employed by Justice Potter Stewart to determine whether something constituted hard-core pornography.

    2. Libel Law -- The MSM used to fight aggressively against any expansion of libel law, but I predict this soon will change. The MSM can handle the burden of defending itself from libel suits much more easily than bloggers can. By increasing the scope of libel law the MSM would impose costs on all journalists which they, but not bloggers, could absorb.

    3. Copyright Law -- Blogs often use information from other sources and, from what I have observed, sometimes flagrantly violate copyright laws. Imagine if Congress increased the complexity and penalties of copyright laws. Non-lawyer bloggers could never be sure what constituted legal fair use of MSM stories and information. Enhanced copyright laws could have a chilling effect on blogging.

    In a fight against the MSM, blogs have two significant weaknesses: lack of monetary and legal resources. Most bloggers already lose money on their blogs. A small paperwork, monetary or legal burden imposed on bloggers would drive many of them to extinction. Expect the MSM to exploit this weakness.

    The Democratic Party will likely assist the MSM in their attack on blogs, not because most blogs are pro-Republican but because blogs are not as consistently liberal as the MSM. John Kerry, for example, is calling for the government to do something to protect the MSM. As he said in a recent speech:

    "The mainstream media, over the course of the last year, did a pretty good job of discerning. But there's a subculture and a sub-media that talks and keeps things going for entertainment purposes rather than for the flow of information. And that has a profound impact and undermines what we call the mainstream media of the country. And so the decision-making ability of the American electorate has been profoundly impacted as a consequence of that. The question is, what are we going to do about it?"

    The Republicans will, I hope, realize that on average their interests are served by protecting blogs. But the Democrats and the MSM will still use the courts and regulatory agencies to attack bloggers, and if the Democrats ever retake the Presidency and Congress expect "media reform" to become a top priority.

    The founders of our great country expected that different interest groups would seek to use the political process for their personal gain. So in seeking to get the government to hinder bloggers, the MSM will be acting exactly as men such as Alexander Hamilton would have predicted. And Hamilton would not have expected the courts to save bloggers. Rather, he would have hoped that bloggers themselves would politically organize to fight back against the MSM.

    http://www.techcentralstation.com/032505B.html
     
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