Two judges on empathy

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  1. midcan5
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    "Each day on the bench I learn something new about the judicial process and about being a professional Latina woman in a world that sometimes looks at me with suspicion. I am reminded each day that I render decisions that affect people concretely and that I owe them constant and complete vigilance in checking my assumptions, presumptions and perspectives and ensuring that to the extent that my limited abilities and capabilities permit me, that I reevaluate them and change as circumstances and cases before me requires. I can and do aspire to be greater than the sum total of my experiences but I accept my limitations. I willingly accept that we who judge must not deny the differences resulting from experience and heritage but attempt, as the Supreme Court suggests, continuously to judge when those opinions, sympathies and prejudices are appropriate." Judge Sonia Sotomayor

    "I don't come from an affluent background or a privileged background. My parents were both quite poor when they were growing up. And I know about their experiences and I didn't experience those things. I don't take credit for anything that they did or anything that they overcame. But I think that children learn a lot from their parents and they learn from what the parents say. But I think they learn a lot more from what the parents do and from what they take from the stories of their parents lives. But when I look at those cases, I have to say to myself, and I do say to myself, "You know, this could be your grandfather, this could be your grandmother. They were not citizens at one time, and they were people who came to this country." And that goes down the line. When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account. When I have a case involving someone who's been subjected to discrimination because of disability, I have to think of people who I've known and admire very greatly who've had disabilities, and I've watched them struggle to overcome the barriers that society puts up often just because it doesn't think of what it's doing -- the barriers that it puts up to them. So those are some of the experiences that have shaped me as a person." Samuel Alito
     
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    Which is it? Alito is a hack or he is a good Judge, can not have it both ways when it suits your agenda.
     
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    Just because we do not all look alike or talk alike we could miss what great people have to offer if we are not willing to look beyond the gender or ethnic backgrounds.
     
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    Neither in my opinion, but if empathy and life experiences count in one case they should count in all. And if quotations can be taken out of context we need to be fair and show what the candidate really said.
     
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    So in otherwords, you don't actually have a point in posting this...

    :eek: Color me SHOCKED! :eek:
     
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    I'm glad MC posted the full quotes. Too much cherry picking going on.

    I was taken care of by a wonderful Latino woman when I was a child. Call me biased. She said some things others may take as discriminatory if taken out of context looking back but her heart was as pure as they come. She was the first licensed movie producer in the state of California. She was also a star in the Latino world. She was good friends with Bob Hope. He used to come see her often. In my eyes I did not see a Latino woman, I saw a beautiful woman with a heart that few can match.
     
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    the race, creed or gender of a candidate for any position should NOT be a consideration.

    the contradiction here is that everyone wants equal rights but then they want special treatment because they are latino, Black, gay, lesbian etc etc ad infinitum ad nauseum.

    We are speaking with forked toungues
     
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    In as much as I can agree with you I can say that more often than not women have been overlooked for higher positions. I can tell you I never asked for a hand out only a level playing field. I have not gotten that through the years. Who is at fault for not insuring that we all do get that level playing field? I sure would not deny someone for standing up and saying, "I know it was not easy as I have been there. You have my empathy".
     
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    interpretation of the law and empathy are antithetical.

    empathy is for jurors not for judges
     
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    Judges manage to twist and circumvent laws on a regular basis to fit within the politic agenda that they represent. If you had ever had your filings accepted by a Supreme Court justice and then had your filings dismissed by a lower appeals court who was willing to circumvent their own court rules. You'd possibly look at the whole matter differently and say, "I want a judge that has empathy".

    I'll take the judge with empathy.
     

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