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The warming is imposed on the natural cycles, so one would expect times when there is a pause, or even a downturn. And one can see it here;
https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/how-much-has-global-temperature-risen-last-100-years
I see, just not predicted ones by the computer models. Just ones explained away after the fact.
He says one should expect that, but none of the AGW priesthood expected it. They always expect things after the facts differ from what they originally expected.
Research by Ed Hawkins of University of Reading shows surface temperatures since 2005 are already at the low end of the range projections derived from 20 climate models and if they remain flat, they will fall outside the models' range within a few years.
"The global temperature standstill shows that climate models are diverging from observations," says David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.
"If we have not passed it already, we are on the threshold of global observations becoming incompatible with the consensus theory of climate change," he says.
According to The Economist, "given the hiatus in warming and all the new evidence, a small reduction in estimates of climate sensitivity would seem to be justified." On face value, Hansen agrees the slowdown in global temperature rises can be seen as "good news".
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By the way Hames Hansen has been the BIGGEST champion of Global Warming!!!
Hmmm... those of us who said the jury was still out on Global Warming... who were the brunt of idiotic comments, jeers as being anti-science... please
I'm not gloating but here is my little dance!!!
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Yes, the pause in the warming is good news. Temporary good news. Due to the convergence of the massive aerosol release from the burning of coal in China and India, the decrease in the energy we are getting from the sun, and the several strong La Ninas versus the one strong El Nino we have seen since 1998.
However, we have seen temporary pauses, and even downturns, in the temperature before.
https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/how-much-has-global-temperature-risen-last-100-years
Not only that. He thinks those studies funded by the oil companies are unbiased as well?
LMAO.
SO my side gets 100 scientists to say warming is real and the oil companies get 2 sciesntists to say it is not, and somehow the 100 are wrong and the 2 are correct.
That could only make sense to a rethug.
So the 100 are paid by the government to make their claims and the 2 are paid for by the oil companies, seems to me that all could or should be considered suspect. Especially the 100 considering that is the only way they make money. Also the 2 would be putting their profession on the line by lying, if they are.
So you are totally ignorant of how scientific studies are done. Typical of a willfully ignorant 'Conservative'.
The science behind AGW is rock solid. In fact, so rock solid that the fruitloops here go for making personal attacks on the scientists, rather than trying to disprove the science. CH4, CO2, and water vapor absorb outgoing infrared. That heat is added to the atmosphere or re-emitted to warm the ground.
As for that posters comment about the plastic bags, let it stand. It shows the mindset of typical 'Conservatives'.
why is it cooler now than when the dinosaurs lived ??
Global warming is caused by sun activity. Only extremist nutters believe in this man made crap.
You mean extremist nutters like the American Institute of Physics, the largest scientific society on earth?
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
You mean like the Geological Society of America;
The Geological Society of America - Position Statement on Global Climate Change
Position Statement
Decades of scientific research have shown that climate can change from both natural and anthropogenic causes. The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s. If current trends continue, the projected increase in global temperature by the end of the twentyfirst century will result in large impacts on humans and other species. Addressing the challenges posed by climate change will require a combination of adaptation to the changes that are likely to occur and global reductions of CO2 emissions from anthropogenic sources.
Or like the American Geophysical Union;
http://www.agu.org/sci_pol/pdf/position_statements/AGU_Climate_Statement.pdf
The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming. Many components of the climate systemincluding the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasonsare now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century. Global average surface temperatures increased on average by about 0.6°C over the period 19562006. As of 2006, eleven of the previous twelve years were warmer than any others since 1850. The observed rapid retreat of Arctic sea ice is expected to continue and lead to the disappearance of summertime ice within this century. Evidence from most oceans and all continents except Antarctica shows warming attributable to human activities. Recent changes in many physical and biological systems are linked with this regional climate change. A sustained research effort, involving many AGU members and summarized in the 2007 assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, continues to improve our scientific understanding of the climate.
During recent millennia of relatively stable climate, civilization became established and populations have grown rapidly. In the next 50 years, even the lower limit of impending climate changean additional global mean warming of 1°C above the last decadeis far beyond the range of climate variability experienced during the past thousand years and poses global problems in planning for and adapting to it. Warming greater than 2°C above 19th century levels is projected to be disruptive, reducing global agricultural productivity, causing widespread loss of biodiversity, andif sustained over centuriesmelting much of the Greenland ice sheet with ensuing rise in sea level of several meters. If this 2°C warming is to be avoided, then our net annual emissions of CO2 must be reduced by more than 50 percent within this century. With such projections, there are many sources of scientific uncertainty, but none are known that could make the impact of climate change inconsequential. Given the uncertainty in climate projections, there can be surprises that may cause more dramatic disruptions than anticipated from the most probable model projections.
With climate change, as with ozone depletion, the human footprint on Earth is apparent. The cause of disruptive climate change, unlike ozone depletion, is tied to energy use and runs through modern society. Solutions will necessarily involve all aspects of society. Mitigation strategies and adaptation responses will call for collaborations across science, technology, industry, and government. Members of the AGU, as part of the scientific community, collectively have special responsibilities: to pursue research needed to understand it; to educate the public on the causes, risks, and hazards; and to communicate clearly and objectively with those who can implement policies to shape future climate.
Adopted by the American Geophysical Union December 2003; Revised and Reaffirmed December 2007, February 2012.
The warming is imposed on the natural cycles, so one would expect times when there is a pause, or even a downturn. And one can see it here;
https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/how-much-has-global-temperature-risen-last-100-years
You're a conspiracy theorist. You think 97% of the world's climate scientists are corrupt.
why is it cooler now than when the dinosaurs lived ??
And why is there oil production in the Arctic area?
Doesn't oil depend on decayed plants?
Don't decayed plants depend on a "warm" environment?
I need someone smarter then me to explain how plants grew where it is below zero!
Global Warming Petition ProjectYou're a conspiracy theorist. You think 97% of the world's climate scientists are corrupt.
Not only that. He thinks those studies funded by the oil companies are unbiased as well?
LMAO.
SO my side gets 100 scientists to say warming is real and the oil companies get 2 sciesntists to say it is not, and somehow the 100 are wrong and the 2 are correct.
That could only make sense to a rethug.
So the 100 are paid by the government to make their claims and the 2 are paid for by the oil companies, seems to me that all could or should be considered suspect. Especially the 100 considering that is the only way they make money. Also the 2 would be putting their profession on the line by lying, if they are.
31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs
and once again only insults to offer.
These same scientists said 40 years ago we were going to freeze to death by now.
These same scientists got exposed in the East Anglia university emails that they were doctoring evidence to support their theory.
but so many "scientists" are already so vested in this man made bullshit that you don't hear nearly that much about it.
I know this is far too simple for your sophisticated brain to get around but explain how oil is found in the Arctic area?
Did not take very long for the PBS cat in the hat which knows best to meow again. It`s no secret that there are huge rivers on Ellesmere and Northernmost Greenland that have carved out deep valleys. These did not appear just a few years ago.That's a fine example of PolarBear's "some stuff which is true, but which has nothing to do with the topic" deflection tactic, mixed in with some his whinyfuktard crying about those liberals who always laugh at him.
Greenland Ice Shows Rapid Climate Flips, Study Says"Shocking" Greenland Ice Melt: Global Warming or Just Heat Wave?
Nearly entire sheet surface melted after four days—fastest thaw seen by satellites.
It may be tempting to link the event to global warming, but scientists say such melts might occur every 150 years......
Greenland Flash Thaw Part of Natural Cycle?
Lora Koenig, a glaciologist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, noted that such events are known to have happened before, in the pre-satellite era.
"Ice cores from Summit show that melting events of this type occur about once every 150 years on average," with the last one happening in 1889, Koenig, a member of the NASA team analyzing the satellite data, said in a statement.
New Ice Core Reveals 800,000 Years of Climate HistoryGreenland Ice Shows Rapid Climate Flips, Study Says
Dahl-Jensen adds that scientists can't say that similar rapid changes will result from human-caused global warming.
But the new study, appearing tomorrow in the online edition of the journal Science, does "tell us about a capacity in our weather systems to change so fast," she said. "I think that's worth drawing attention to."
So why don`t you save them a whole bunch more drilling and studies that cost almost as much as the "War against terror".New Ice Core Reveals 800,000 Years of Climate History
Earth's polar temperature has swung wildly—by as much as 15 degrees Celsius (27 degrees Fahrenheit)—over the last 800,000 years, an Antarctic ice core has revealed. In 2004 scientists led by Jean Jouzel of the Laboratory of Climate and Environmental Sciences (LSCE) in Gif-sur-Yvette, France, pulled up the final chunk of ice core from a drill hole in the center of Antarctica.
It was about 10 degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit) colder than today. (Related: "Antarctica's Atmosphere Warming Dramatically, Study Finds" [March 30, 2006].)
Meanwhile, the warmest period was during the last interglacial period, which is an interval of warmer global average temperature that separates ice ages. At that time, around 130,000 years ago, it was a balmy 4.5 degrees Celsius (8.1 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than today.
Global Events
Many of the changes seen in the core were global climate events.
"We were able to correlate the record with changes seen in Greenland," study lead author Jouzel said.
