Turkey shoots down Russian jet

the good news is that the pilots bailed





The ban news is that Russia is not as frightening as many pro terrorists have been led to believe, and will not be bombing Israel on the commands of Assad
 
Odummy best come off the golf course.. He can bring the cheap booze and smokes to the party.

His gig is up

WW3 is simmering

-Geaux
 
The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.

Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels

Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels

Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK

The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS

ISIS is fighting everyone

Not only that you have:

Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front

The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa

al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS


You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.
 
the good news is that the pilots bailed
They say they found a dead pilot. A person dead due to politics....

People die all the time. Cry me a river

-Geaux

Yeah, and US presidents send people to their deaths all the time, HOOOORAAAAHHH!! Time to celebrate hey? We're makers of deaths. And pro-lifers at the same time.....

Boots on the ground is the only answer.

-Geaux
 
the good news is that the pilots bailed





The ban news is that Russia is not as frightening as many pro terrorists have been led to believe, and will not be bombing Israel on the commands of Assad

Yes. It's hilarious reading the incessant propaganda over the Mighty Resurgent Putin Imperium, though; we'll see how dedicated the Russians are to preserving their little naval base on the Med. Most of those who know better already accept he's an Emperor With No Clothes, and the rabid America Haters will once again be disappointed and have to start dreaming up new narratives about the incipient Collapse of the West yet again.
 
The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.

Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels

Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels

Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK

The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS

ISIS is fighting everyone

Not only that you have:

Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front

The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa

al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS


You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.

This is all good; the animals are focused on butchering each other for a change, and that is a plus. The shame is the West not doing enough to aid the really oppressed in those countries and instead are pandering to Muslims, i.e. just backasswards policy, on top of arming Iran with nukes. Pure idiocy.

All dictators eventually collapse; keeping the collateral damage from spreading is sane policy. The real issue for Americans is how much more will Obama screw up as a lame duck with a year or so left to work on enthusiastically spreading the violence and death to Europe and the U.S. We know Hillary and Lurch are completely incompetent re foreign policy and dealing with reality, so no sanity apparent in that direction.
 
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Wow. Big breaking news: Reuters didn't even have it up at all as of 7:30 today. NATO instantly called an emergency meeting, no waiting. This on top of Europe in chaos, Brussels shut down entirely for a FOURTH day. And the Crimea cut off from electricity because somebody (presumably Ukrainians) blew up all their electricity pylons.

Gerard Baker, editor of the Wall Street Journal, who also puts out an email "10-point" news summary, quickly put the fighter jet shoot-down at the top and sent it out. He says "The incident highlights the gathering peril in the multi-sided war that is rapidly spreading its tentacles around the world."

Right: I have thought for a couple weeks now that we are in a multi-nation war but don't know it yet, everything is so confusing. But that's what always happens: the beginnings of wars are incredibly confusing and people don't know what is going on. WWI: everyone on both sides said it would be Over by Christmas! Back before the leaves fall!. But in fact it was the beginning of the longest and worst two wars in human history.

I think the war monster is growing right now and will soon be impossible to ignore.
 
Putin isn't going to start a war with the U.S. or any European country, and especially not over an incident such as this. He can't even pacify the Ukraine, and with a military far larger to play with, though still way too small to swing the balance in the ME.

France has been showing a lot of initiate lately, so we can wait and see how they do; kind of an embarrassment for Obama and much of Europe to leave France as the hard-liner in the ME.
 
the good news is that the pilots bailed
the good news is that the pilots bailed





The ban news is that Russia is not as frightening as many pro terrorists have been led to believe, and will not be bombing Israel on the commands of Assad

Yes. It's hilarious reading the incessant propaganda over the Mighty Resurgent Putin Imperium, though; we'll see how dedicated the Russians are to preserving their little naval base on the Med. Most of those who know better already accept he's an Emperor With No Clothes, and the rabid America Haters will once again be disappointed and have to start dreaming up new narratives about the incipient Collapse of the West yet again.

you really believe that the ruskie draftees are on the verge of MUTINY?
 
The US is fighting ISIS
The US is supporting anti-Assad rebels.

Assad is fighting ISIS
Assad is fighting anti-Assad rebels

Russia is fighting ISIS
Russia is fighting anti-Assad rebels

Turkey is fighting ISIS
Turkey is fighting the PKK

The PKK is fighting Turkey
The PKK is fighting ISIS

ISIS is fighting everyone

Not only that you have:

Jund al-Aqsa fighting Assad
Jund al-Aqsa fighting ISIS
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Hazzm
Jund al-Aqsa fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front

The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Assad
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Hazzm
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting ISIS
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting al Nursa front
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Yamourk Martyrs Brigade
The Syrian Revolutionary Front fighting Jund al-Aqsa

al-Nusra Front is fighting Assad
al-Nusra Front is fighting Russia
al-Nusra Front is fighting Lebanon
al-Nusra Front is fighting Rojava
al-Nusra Front is fighting Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Dawn of Freedom Brigades
al-Nusra Front is fighting Syrian Revolutionary Front
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hazzm
al-Nusra Front is fighting Southern Front of the Free Syrian Army
al-Nusra Front is fighting Hezbolla
al-Nusra Front is fighting Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
al-Nusra Front is fighting Al-Abbsa Brigade
al-Nusra Front is fighting ISIS


You get the point, there are millions of different individual conflicts going on, and Russia/Turkey is just another to add to the pie.

yes-- it is a very typical arab type conflict -----your point?
 

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