Truthers

[eots]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em9Lwwb1gyY[/ame]

 

[eots]

I didn't claim to be the expert on what did or didn't happen you did. Now give us the details starting with where are the people.

in my expert opinion a re-investigation is with full subpoena power and disclosure is required to answer any question definitively..and however well reasoned a hypothesis may be without access to evidence and government resources it will remain hypothesis...and for those that have determined there are elements with in our government that would be complicit in the murder of 3000 people and use it and other lies as a pretext to murder ten of thousands more...then what happened to the passengers of the pentagon flight is simply another question that needs to be determined.. any number of ways of disposing of them is plausible once you realise the murderous cabal that is in control


lets start with releasing the 84 surveillance tapes of the pentagon on 9/11 that still remain classified...is that too much to ask ??

Are you sure enough to pay for the investigation? Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is? How sure are you?

there is no questions the investigations were cover-ups that is a certainty

 

[CurveLight]

Perfect example. You have NOT proven Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. Do that then you will have room to bitch.

the 757 parts, the black boxes, all the witnesses, serial numbers on parts and DNA from passengers and crew give him PLENTY of room to bitch.

the only people that believe a 757 didnt hit the pentagon are complete fucking morons.

Oh that's right! Forgot you OCTAs
use one set of standards for yourselves and other standards for everyone else. Thank you so kindly for the timely reminder.

How do you know they were 757 parts?

Where is the list of serial number correlations?

The DNA was provided by family members....it's not like investigators had to go hunting for DNA. Oh, I know....you will say they matched the DNA. Has that ever been verified or do you sheepishly nod when the government barks?

Did they ever match up the DNA of the hijackers?

What about the black boxes?

You guys toss out some bullshit like that and expect everyone to bow and if they don't you say they are morons. How clever.

Here's one of the morons you reference. We understand....he only had a 32 year career in the Intelligence business in the Army:

General Stubblebine: "I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane."

You prove yourselves to be immature nationalists everytime you try to give dissenters a blanket party.

 

[Trojan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em9Lwwb1gyY

eots

Did you watch that video? It shows that truthers are outright liars and how you take statements out of context!



bravo for showing yourself and Terral to be liars

 

[CurveLight]

That's the one sure way to stop a truther in their tracks. Ask them for details. They go apeshit on ya everysingletime.

could you provide the details of the official story..I doubt very much you have the slightest clue of the details of the official lie ..you are a waste of time whose entire knowledge and opinion of 9/11 is formed by osmosis of 3o sec sound bites of propaganda..no question

I didn't claim to be the expert on what did or didn't happen you did. Now give us the details starting with where are the people.

Now I understand why you call yourself a douche in your sig tag. You claim the OCT is true therefore it is up to you to defend that claim, but you fail to realize that.

Your entire camp drowns in the absence of logic. Your slogan is basically this:

"The OCT is true until you can prove what happened."

 

[LA RAM FAN]

H
Willow has already seen pictures of the EMPTY HOLE . . .

you keep showing us a hole with stuff in it and tell us its empty. you are a moron.

How is he a moron agent showing the PROOF the government lied saying an airliner crashed in that hole when there is no evidence of any debris of the airliner? priceless.I love it.

 

[Fizz]

if flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon, why were body parts from these people found at the scene? if no plane crashed into the pentagon then where are these people now?

CREW:
Charles Burlingame, 51, Virginia, captain
David Charlebois, Washington, first officer
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Renee May, 39, Baltimore, flight attendant

PASSENGERS:
Dr. Paul Ambrose, 32, physician
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC
MJ Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School in Washington
Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School in Washington
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, teacher, Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md. (no DNA indentification)
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, education outreach director of National Geographic Society
Wilson “Bud” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va., retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot
Darlene “Dee” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, Washington, president of healthcare consulting firm
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive at Defense Department
Steven D. “Jake” Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va., National Geographic Society travel office manager
Chandler Keller, 29, Boeing propulsion engineer in El Segundo, Calif.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, lawyer with Wiley Rein & Fielding in Washington
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co.
Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research for biotech firm
Christopher Newton, 38, Arlington, Va., executive, WorkLife Benefits
Barbara Olson, 45, TV commentator and lawyer
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Boeing propulsion engineer
Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer with BAE Systems
Lisa Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va., senior vice president, Genzyme Corp.
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech
Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women’s gymnastics coash, UC-Santa Barbara
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
Hilda Taylor, sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
Sandra Teague, 31, physical therapist, Georgetown University hospital
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., Georgetown University professor
John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.
Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg
Zheng Yuguang, 65, Beijing

 

[manu1959]

H
Willow has already seen pictures of the EMPTY HOLE . . .

you keep showing us a hole with stuff in it and tell us its empty. you are a moron.

How is he a moron agent showing the PROOF the government lied saying an airliner crashed in that hole when there is no evidence of any debris of the airliner? priceless.I love it.

hey ..... you keep claiming an airplane full of people vanished with no proof .....

 

[CurveLight]

he's dying cause you won't give him any details.. just like your story.. you got nuttin. At least you can tell us where the people are. passenger, pilots, co pilots,, flight attendants..

You're more than just a tweak or two from healthy comprehension. See, the OCTAs have never proven their theory is correct. You repeat what the Bush admin has said with absolutely no effort to prove it is true then you prance around demanding others prove something either they have not claimed or cheer your claim is correct by default.

Prove your own fucking claims about 9/11 you predictably lazy typical self righteous American butt grease stain proving abortion is not always a horrible choice piss ass excuse of a gasbag whining nationalistic punk.

That's the one sure way to stop a truther in their tracks. Ask them for details. They go apeshit on ya everysingletime.

How in the hell do you lie with such ease? Why pretend my first post in the thread didn't post this link?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...neers-scientists-dont-believe-9-11-story.html

Wtf?

 

[Trojan]

Here's one of the morons you reference. We understand....he only had a 32 year career in the Intelligence business in the Army:

General Stubblebine: "I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane."

This is the general that believes you can bend a spoon with your mind and that astral projection is possible

Physics and reality is not his friend

 

[Fizz]

H
Willow has already seen pictures of the EMPTY HOLE . . .

you keep showing us a hole with stuff in it and tell us its empty. you are a moron.

How is he a moron agent showing the PROOF the government lied saying an airliner crashed in that hole when there is no evidence of any debris of the airliner? priceless.I love it.

so, according to you, finding the engines and the black boxes is no evidence? here is a pictures of one of the things that was in your "empty hole".... a jet engine!!

 

[CurveLight]

if flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon, why were body parts from these people found at the scene? if no plane crashed into the pentagon then where are these people now?

CREW:
Charles Burlingame, 51, Virginia, captain
David Charlebois, Washington, first officer
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Renee May, 39, Baltimore, flight attendant

PASSENGERS:
Dr. Paul Ambrose, 32, physician
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC
MJ Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School in Washington
Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School in Washington
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, teacher, Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md. (no DNA indentification)
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, education outreach director of National Geographic Society
Wilson “Bud” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va., retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot
Darlene “Dee” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, Washington, president of healthcare consulting firm
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive at Defense Department
Steven D. “Jake” Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va., National Geographic Society travel office manager
Chandler Keller, 29, Boeing propulsion engineer in El Segundo, Calif.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, lawyer with Wiley Rein & Fielding in Washington
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co.
Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research for biotech firm
Christopher Newton, 38, Arlington, Va., executive, WorkLife Benefits
Barbara Olson, 45, TV commentator and lawyer
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Boeing propulsion engineer
Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer with BAE Systems
Lisa Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va., senior vice president, Genzyme Corp.
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech
Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women’s gymnastics coash, UC-Santa Barbara
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
Hilda Taylor, sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
Sandra Teague, 31, physical therapist, Georgetown University hospital
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., Georgetown University professor
John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.
Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg
Zheng Yuguang, 65, Beijing

Wow! I just pointed out the most used fallacy by the OCTAs
only to have one demonstrate their loyalty!

We don't need to prove what happened to them to show the OCT is lacking evidence. You act like the crazy religious creationists who claim unless you can prove exactly where all life began then it is true God created the earth 10,000 years ago.

 

[manu1959]

if flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon, why were body parts from these people found at the scene? if no plane crashed into the pentagon then where are these people now?

CREW:
Charles Burlingame, 51, Virginia, captain
David Charlebois, Washington, first officer
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Renee May, 39, Baltimore, flight attendant

PASSENGERS:
Dr. Paul Ambrose, 32, physician
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC
MJ Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School in Washington
Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School in Washington
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, teacher, Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md. (no DNA indentification)
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, education outreach director of National Geographic Society
Wilson “Bud” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va., retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot
Darlene “Dee” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, Washington, president of healthcare consulting firm
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive at Defense Department
Steven D. “Jake” Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va., National Geographic Society travel office manager
Chandler Keller, 29, Boeing propulsion engineer in El Segundo, Calif.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, lawyer with Wiley Rein & Fielding in Washington
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co.
Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research for biotech firm
Christopher Newton, 38, Arlington, Va., executive, WorkLife Benefits
Barbara Olson, 45, TV commentator and lawyer
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Boeing propulsion engineer
Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer with BAE Systems
Lisa Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va., senior vice president, Genzyme Corp.
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech
Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women’s gymnastics coash, UC-Santa Barbara
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
Hilda Taylor, sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
Sandra Teague, 31, physical therapist, Georgetown University hospital
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., Georgetown University professor
John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.
Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg
Zheng Yuguang, 65, Beijing

Wow! I just pointed out the most used fallacy by the OCTAs
only to have one demonstrate their loyalty!

We don't need to prove what happened to them to show the OCT is lacking evidence. You act like the crazy religious creationists who claim unless you can prove exactly where all life began then it is true God created the earth 10,000 years ago.

you are the one claiming they don't exist and have vanished.....

 

[LA RAM FAN]

if flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon, why were body parts from these people found at the scene? if no plane crashed into the pentagon then where are these people now?

CREW:
Charles Burlingame, 51, Virginia, captain
David Charlebois, Washington, first officer
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Renee May, 39, Baltimore, flight attendant

PASSENGERS:
Dr. Paul Ambrose, 32, physician
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC
MJ Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School in Washington
Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School in Washington
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, teacher, Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md. (no DNA indentification)
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, education outreach director of National Geographic Society
Wilson “Bud” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va., retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot
Darlene “Dee” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, Washington, president of healthcare consulting firm
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive at Defense Department
Steven D. “Jake” Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va., National Geographic Society travel office manager
Chandler Keller, 29, Boeing propulsion engineer in El Segundo, Calif.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, lawyer with Wiley Rein & Fielding in Washington
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co.
Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research for biotech firm
Christopher Newton, 38, Arlington, Va., executive, WorkLife Benefits
Barbara Olson, 45, TV commentator and lawyer
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Boeing propulsion engineer
Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer with BAE Systems
Lisa Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va., senior vice president, Genzyme Corp.
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech
Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women’s gymnastics coash, UC-Santa Barbara
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
Hilda Taylor, sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
Sandra Teague, 31, physical therapist, Georgetown University hospital
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., Georgetown University professor
John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.
Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg
Zheng Yuguang, 65, Beijing

oh please,you say there were body parts found at the scene just because this was posted somewhere where they SAY they were.The photos show no body parts whatsoever.I want proof of pics of the bodies at the site.for the second question,we'll never know unless the public is allowed to have Bush,cheney and the other neocons in the Bush administration put under a lie detector and have a real investigation done.I have never claimed to have the answer to that,thats something they should have to tell us while behind bars.The only thing we know is what DIDNT crash at the pentagon so we deserve in honest answer from our elected officials what REALLY happened to them.that can only happen with a new independent investigation many people want to see.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

you keep showing us a hole with stuff in it and tell us its empty. you are a moron.

How is he a moron agent showing the PROOF the government lied saying an airliner crashed in that hole when there is no evidence of any debris of the airliner? priceless.I love it.

hey ..... you keep claiming an airplane full of people vanished with no proof .....

ive never claimed to have the answer to what really happened to them.whats been shown to us is not proof that an airliner slammed into the pentagon though.whats a known fact is the FBI illegally confiscated tapes from a gas station and hotel across the street and the pentagon with all those dozens of cameras they have everywhere in the pentagon,they are hiding what really happened since they wont release the tapes or photos and just show us those two flimsy images of on orange ball of fire which proves nothing.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

you keep showing us a hole with stuff in it and tell us its empty. you are a moron.

How is he a moron agent showing the PROOF the government lied saying an airliner crashed in that hole when there is no evidence of any debris of the airliner? priceless.I love it.

so, according to you, finding the engines and the black boxes is no evidence? here is a pictures of one of the things that was in your "empty hole".... a jet engine!!

hahahaha,THATS your flimsy evidence of an airliner wreakage,priceless. wheres the tail section,the luggage,the bodies,the engine,the seats that you see at a normal airliner wreckage? I dont see you showing any.hahahahahaha.got more entertainment for me I assume?

 

[manu1959]

How is he a moron agent showing the PROOF the government lied saying an airliner crashed in that hole when there is no evidence of any debris of the airliner? priceless.I love it.

hey ..... you keep claiming an airplane full of people vanished with no proof .....

ive never claimed to have the answer to what really happened to them.whats been shown to us is not proof that an airliner slammed into the pentagon though.whats a known fact is the FBI illegally confiscated tapes from a gas station and hotel across the street and the pentagon with all those dozens of cameras they have everywhere in the pentagon,they are hiding what really happened since they wont release the tapes or photos and just show us those two flimsy images of on orange ball of fire which proves nothing.

they all died in a plane crash.....

now you want to claim the pentagon plane and its passengers vanished.....two planes full of people disapear.....that is your story....poof....

just because your government won't tell you what you want to hear doesn't mean the planes didn't crash in the locations claimed and all the people died with them....

 

[SFC Ollie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em9Lwwb1gyY

Thank you for proving that a Newsman who saw the plane has verified that it was flight 77 or at least one just like it that hit the Pentagon. We do appreciate that.

 

[CurveLight]

Here's one of the morons you reference. We understand....he only had a 32 year career in the Intelligence business in the Army:

General Stubblebine: "I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane."

This is the general that believes you can bend a spoon with your mind and that astral projection is possible

Physics and reality is not his friend

I'm sure everyone of us has a belief others would see as crazy. Is this how you dismiss expert opinions? Fallacious attacks? You want a great example of how ridiculous it is to dismiss his opinion based on a totally different subject? Here's a hint: newton's apple.

 

[CurveLight]

if flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon, why were body parts from these people found at the scene? if no plane crashed into the pentagon then where are these people now?

CREW:
Charles Burlingame, 51, Virginia, captain
David Charlebois, Washington, first officer
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Renee May, 39, Baltimore, flight attendant

PASSENGERS:
Dr. Paul Ambrose, 32, physician
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC
MJ Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School in Washington
Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School in Washington
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, teacher, Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md. (no DNA indentification)
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, education outreach director of National Geographic Society
Wilson “Bud” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va., retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot
Darlene “Dee” Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, Washington, president of healthcare consulting firm
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive at Defense Department
Steven D. “Jake” Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va., National Geographic Society travel office manager
Chandler Keller, 29, Boeing propulsion engineer in El Segundo, Calif.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, lawyer with Wiley Rein & Fielding in Washington
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co.
Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research for biotech firm
Christopher Newton, 38, Arlington, Va., executive, WorkLife Benefits
Barbara Olson, 45, TV commentator and lawyer
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Boeing propulsion engineer
Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer with BAE Systems
Lisa Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va., senior vice president, Genzyme Corp.
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech
Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women’s gymnastics coash, UC-Santa Barbara
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
Hilda Taylor, sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
Sandra Teague, 31, physical therapist, Georgetown University hospital
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., Georgetown University professor
John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.
Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg
Zheng Yuguang, 65, Beijing

Wow! I just pointed out the most used fallacy by the OCTAs
only to have one demonstrate their loyalty!

We don't need to prove what happened to them to show the OCT is lacking evidence. You act like the crazy religious creationists who claim unless you can prove exactly where all life began then it is true God created the earth 10,000 years ago.

you are the one claiming they don't exist and have vanished.....

This is why debating it sucks sometimes. Tell us the post number where I said they don't exist. Can you? No you can't because I never said that.