Truth to Palestine and Israel

[David2004]

Truth to Palestine and Israel

The proverbial story of the three blind people describing an elephant holds a lot of truth in Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The first blind person is feeling the tusk of the elephant describing it as hard, pointed, and smooth. The second blind person is feeling the trunk of the elephant describing it as long, thin, and muscular. The third blind person is sitting on top of the elephant saying it is big, fatty, with rough skin. All three descriptions are true, yet they are incomplete missing the big picture.

Many of the great accomplishments the Jewish people made in Israel have been at the expense of the Palestinian people. Whether it is in agricultural using a disproportional amount of the local water or the beautiful parks and open spaces they have around the Jewish settlements. One must deal with the reality on the ground to how Israel became the nation it is today. It is a fact that there are no people in the world that would be willing to turn over 55% of their nation to another nation of people. Then lose another 20% a year later in a war fighting for their land. The State of Israel was imposed onto the Palestinian people by the western nations. The plight of the Palestinian and Jewish people is well known by many people around the world.

What is not known by very many people are the answers to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict? There are many questions without simple answers that have to be resolved. Such as who is going to control the Old City of Jerusalem and the religious Holy sites? The Right of Return of Palestinians as well as the Right of Return of the Jewish people to Israel must be addressed. Clearly any fair and legitimate proposal will not be what either side would want for an ideal settlement. If one approaches the problems as what is fair for one side should also be fair for the other side as well. There are differences on both sides that have to be dealt with in a manner so that both sides agree. The State of Israel possessing nuclear weapons is a problem that must be addressed because of the larger picture. Even children have a good since to what is fair among their peers. The same is holds true with nations of people.

Many people believe the answers to the problems will be found from within the Palestinian-Israeli community. This is true to a large degree except for the fact that it was the outside world that created many of the problems from the beginning. The international Jewish community is so few in numbers yet internationally they have so much affluence that they have poured into the State of Israel. Bringing balance into the Palestinian-Israel Crisis will solve problems that armies cannot. Most of all the people agree to the two state solution as the way. Now is the time to implement such a plan where both sides can prosper as nations together. Palestine should become the shining pearl of the Middle East that other nations in the region can gravitate towards as a goal. We can win the hearts and minds of the people of the world with tools not weapons.

 

[5stringJeff]

 

[José]

The fact is that we can’t even be sure he’s a troll, Jeff, cuz he never expresses his own opinons nor engage in debate.

David, I can assure you that people don’t join message boards to read articles written by syndicated columnists, at least, I’m sure this is not their main interest.

Most people join this kind of chat to do what they can’t do with William Safire, Charles Krauthammer etc etc... debate the issues.

I’m not saying the articles you post are not important and interesting, but if we are talking online now, this means we all have access to the international press.

To make a long story short, we want to know the real David, we want to know your take on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict <B>in your own words</B>.

PS: This whole point system is not worth the paper I used to wipe my ass this morning.

When people give points to another member who think alike (99% of the cases) they are in fact awarding themselves.

My satires portraying the members of the USMB being knocked out by me is a way of mocking this self-congratulatory nonsense : )

I'm saying this because the fact that David just post articles and never tell us his own opinions is not a valid reason to &#8220;award&#8221; the poor guy with 358 negative points, at least, not IMO.

 

[5stringJeff]

Jose, my post has little to do with the rep system. It has everything to do with the fact the David2004 posts his stuff on several different message boards, but never discusses anything (i.e. never responds). And I'm tired of it.

 

[Annie]

The fact is that we can’t even be sure he’s a troll, Jeff, cuz he never expresses his own opinons nor engage in debate.

David, I can assure you that people don’t join message boards to read articles written by syndicated columnists, at least, I’m sure this is not their main interest.

Most people join this kind of chat to do what they can’t do with William Safire, Charles Krauthammer etc etc... debate the issues.

I’m not saying the articles you post are not important and interesting, but if we are talking online now, this means we all have access to the international press.

To make a long story short, we want to know the real David, we want to know your take on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict <B>in your own words</B>.

PS: This whole point system is not worth the paper I used to wipe my ass this morning.

When people give points to another member who think alike (99% of the cases) they are in fact awarding themselves.

My satires portraying the members of the USMB being knocked out by me is a way of mocking this self-congratulatory nonsense : )

I'm saying this because the fact that David just post articles and never tell us his own opinions is not a valid reason to “award” the poor guy with 358 negative points, at least, not IMO.

The poor guy comes on a board that is for discussion, posts copy and paste without his imput, never responds to those that bother...

 

[David2004]

Yes I’m guilty of Cutting, Coping and Pasting. First I think about the problem then I write an article then I Cut Copy and Paste. No they are not all of my originally ideas I write about. I write the articles and concepts I do to raise the level of people awareness to the problems and in some cases the solutions to the problems we face as the human race in the world today. I do not respond to those people who have their mind set or to the trash that lowers the level of discussion. Indirectly I often reply to issues of debate in my later post. I post articles I have written. Never have I posted an article written by someone else without giving credit to the author.

 

[José]

Well… Since no one here is your siamese twin, we have no way of knowing, David.

Some people might think they have compelling evidence but no one knows with absolute certainty.

In these circumstances, it´s fair to give you the benefit of the doubt, so I appologise.

Advice: try to sound a little less formal in your posts, this will avoid misunderstandings.

 

[José]

and discussing the issues wouldn´t hurt either : )

 

[Gunny]

Yes I’m guilty of Cutting, Coping and Pasting. First I think about the problem then I write an article then I Cut Copy and Paste. No they are not all of my originally ideas I write about. I write the articles and concepts I do to raise the level of people awareness to the problems and in some cases the solutions to the problems we face as the human race in the world today. I do not respond to those people who have their mind set or to the trash that lowers the level of discussion. Indirectly I often reply to issues of debate in my later post. I post articles I have written. Never have I posted an article written by someone else without giving credit to the author.

The flaw I see in this argument is that you claim to "think about the problem."

What you don't respond to is anyone who disagrees with your pro-Palestine crap.