Trump's true plan comes out

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    And how is Donald Trump pro big government? For that matter, how is he a "crappy" business man? You mentioned your net worth....are you just jealous of his?

    Not that I'm his biggest fan...I just resent people who are one thing and lie through their teeth about it.
     
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    He has called for more than 500 billion dollar increase in military spending alone. The military is part of the government you know.
    He has called for more than 500 billion dollars in infrastructure repair, just more government spending.
    He is threatening a 35% or higher "tax" on items made by US companies overseas being brought back to the US.
    He has said that eminent domain is a "wonderful" thing and he will be using it as POTUS. He has to take land to have his stupid fucking wall built.
    He wants to spending 25 billion or more on a 2000 mile long wall along with the billions in upkeep over the coming years.

    Is that enough or would you like more?
     
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    This is a joke....right?


    The ONLY reason he is calling for defense spending is because the Democrats reduced it to a point that we were no longer able to defend ourselves as a nation against evolving threats. You DO think National Defense (the PRIMARY purpose of government, btw) is a good thing, don't you?

    If Obama had done them, maybe we wouldn't need so much now? Instead, Obama plundered TRILLIONS on welfare programs and campaign supporters through fiascos like Solyndra. C'mon...you're kidding....aren't you?


    TO PUSH THEM TO BRING JOBS BACK HOME!! DAMN! YOU DO HATE AMERICA!!!

    IIRC, LIKE 99% of the landowners affected said they'd be happy to give up land to have the wall since they have lost it to drug runners ANYWAY!

    It will COST LESS to have and maintain the wall than spend trillions to service millions of illegals.

    I'd like AT LEAST ONE VALID reason. Look, we need government. But what we DON'T need is a nanny state where government tells you things like you can't have a wind power turbine, that harms or hinders noone else, on your property. We don't need a government that grows the bureaucracy unnecessarily. We don't need a bigger government that tells us how and when we can store rain water on our property. We don't need a bigger government that uses the IRS against groups that speak out against it.......

    But we need government for infrastructure, National Defense and few other things that are best done as a nation.
     
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    We do not have an underfunded military, we have misused and mismanaged military.

    Sort of funny you do not want a "nanny" state but you are all on board with the nanny state telling people where to build their products and punishing those that do not follow the rules.

    Today's conservatives are no different than today's liberals, they all want to spend and spend and spend some more. They only disagree on where to spend it.

    We are already spending our grandkids money, how far into the future generations do you wish to go.
     
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    we go to war today or we go to war tomorrow when NK can nuke us.
     
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    Its finally out in the open, after 8 years about complaining about the deficits, they finally admit they dont care about debt. Another great quote.

    Trump has certainly killed the tea party; dead and buried.
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    On this matter, I think it's quite simple: presidents enjoy great popularity when the country is at war and being at war changes the political conversation to the topic of "how the president is handling the war." It's classic "create a problem to then solve it" so one can look good for having done so or attempted to.
     
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    All this shows is how extremely narrow minded you are. Brainwashed is a better description.

    For a Mexican National, your English isn't bad.
     
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    Show me where you've complained about the Obama waste. Did you like Obama?
    You haven't complained one bit about the TRILLIONS wasted by Obama and we have NOTHING to show for it except for failed fake companies that were fronts to launder money to his supporters. Obama gave us ZERO infrastructure improvements (inspite of all the BS talk about "shovel-ready" jobs). Obama gave us ZERO military strengthening (he actually tore it down)

    And imbeciles think the way to global peace is by laying down our arms and singing Kumbaya.

    There IS a reasonable budget for things that actually make our nation stronger. But so far there is absolutely NO COMPARISON between Trump and Obama in terms of smarter and better spending. If you love lots of money spent on transgender bathrooms and trillions wasted on welfare so that people could buy Jaguars and BMWs and cruise tickets and booze while laughing about the system....then Obama was your guy.
     
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    To some degree there may be a smidgen of truth to this. But remember, while some laugh at the notion of a "Deep State", it's not so much the President who pushed these wars as the powerful billionaires behind the military industrial complex....which is exactly why the Nobel Peace Prize winning Obama eventually went to war after all. Liberals awarding liberals....how cute.
     
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