Trump's trade war with China

[Redfish]

bullshit, Xi is hoping for a new president that will kowtow to him like all previous US presidents have done. Trump is the first president to play hardball with China and its working.

why do you support an outflow of US wealth to china?

I support the free market and free trade, I am a capitalist, not a statist like you.

Wealth does not flow in one direction, it is always flowing back and forth.

Our current trade deals brought us 123 straight months of economic expansion, a record for this country.

Our current trade deals brought us 110 straight months of positive job growth, a record for this country.

Our current trade deals brought us record setting sustained low unemployment.

Our current trade deals brought a million more open jobs than people to fill them.

Our current trade deals had brought us record setting financial markets.

These are all good things in my opinion, yet you statist seem to hate them...why is that?

our current trade deals resulted in the net transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars to China every year. yes, wealth flows both ways, but we were losing NET wealth to China, Japan, SK, and EU for years before Trump decided to correct it.

I am not a statist but I do support putting this country first in all matters.

 

[Correll]

Dude. The more you dodge the obvious core issue here, the more you demonstrate that you know you are in the wrong.


Why are you holding to a position, that you know is false?

I have not dodged anything, I gave you the answer and you choose to ignore it.

Dude. We are past that.


Why are you holding to a position you know is wrong? I'm serious. I'm interested in your motives.

I do not hold a position that is wrong, why do you pretend that I do?

People are as evasive as you, when they are afraid to stand by their positions.


I don't understand how you can work so hard to avoid the real issue, without realizing that that means that you are obviously in the wrong, on this issue.


When you think about telling me the answer that you know I want, how do you feel?

I have answered every question you have asked of me. I am not sure what more you want but you are barking up the wrong tree. Go hump the leg of one of your fellow Trump worshipers, I am sure they will tell you whatever it is you want to hear.

What is Trump's goal, and why does Xi feel a need to fight him?


Now wait, don't bother answering. (i know you won't) but how do you feel when you read that question?

 

[cnm]

This assumes that communist China is more efficient than capitalist USA.

I would argue that capitalism has proven far more efficient and effective at bringing a product to market than socialism.

Hilarity. So why isn't Walmart full of US products? Ffs.

 

[cnm]

When you [GG] think about telling me the answer that you know I want, how do you feel?

I imagine he feels pity at your transparent need to have your fantasies validated.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

our current trade deals resulted in the net transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars to China every year. yes, wealth flows both ways, but we were losing NET wealth to China, Japan, SK, and EU for years before Trump decided to correct it.

I am not a statist but I do support putting this country first in all matters.

It is called commerce, we give them money they give us goods, it makes the world go around.

You do the same thing on a smaller scale every day, you transfer dollars to you grocery store which in turn gives you food. If you have a job then you boss answers money to you in exchange for a service or product.

Just the other day I transferred money to Best Buy to get a WiFi system to better take advantage of the new fiber optic internet I am now getting...oh and I transfer money to my ISP every month in exchange for the internet.

I am not sure why this is so confusing for you.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What is Trump's goal, and why does Xi feel a need to fight him?


Now wait, don't bother answering. (i know you won't) but how do you feel when you read that question?

I would like to think that Trump has the same goal, but I am not really sure about that. I think Trump cares more about a political win than the country.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So all the American workers who lost their jobs and all the American businesses destroyed by China's unfair trade practices, THEFT, I guess it sucks to be them? If China were taking over something important to Dem's like education you people would be screaming bloody murder.

Considering we have a million more open positions than people to fill them, it seems that these people have found new jobs or are too lazy to get a job.

 

[RealDave]

bullshit, Xi is hoping for a new president that will kowtow to him like all previous US presidents have done. Trump is the first president to play hardball with China and its working.

why do you support an outflow of US wealth to china?

I support the free market and free trade, I am a capitalist, not a statist like you.

Wealth does not flow in one direction, it is always flowing back and forth.

Our current trade deals brought us 123 straight months of economic expansion, a record for this country.

Our current trade deals brought us 110 straight months of positive job growth, a record for this country.

Our current trade deals brought us record setting sustained low unemployment.

Our current trade deals brought a million more open jobs than people to fill them.

Our current trade deals had brought us record setting financial markets.

These are all good things in my opinion, yet you statist seem to hate them...why is that?

our current trade deals resulted in the net transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars to China every year. yes, wealth flows both ways, but we were losing NET wealth to China, Japan, SK, and EU for years before Trump decided to correct it.

I am not a statist but I do support putting this country first in all matters.

You are a moron.

I grocery shop weekly at the neighboring Giant. I spend about $150 a week.

So, according to you & Trump, I am losing 1800 a year?

The fact is this: A give them $150 & They give me $150 worth of groceries.

There is no loss.

 

[RealDave]

So, Trump hasn't won yet?

Trade wars are easy to win.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You are a moron.

I grocery shop weekly at the neighboring Giant. I spend about $150 a week.

So, according to you & Trump, I am losing 1800 a year?

The fact is this: A give them $150 & They give me $150 worth of groceries.

There is no loss.

I am not sure why this is such a hard concept for them.

 

[cnm]

I am not sure why this is such a hard concept for them.

I'm still baffled by the inability to accept Trump started the trade wars. Truly baffling.

 

[Correll]

When you [GG] think about telling me the answer that you know I want, how do you feel?

I imagine he feels pity at your transparent need to have your fantasies validated.

Except he is the one being terrifically evasive to avoid the issue at the heart of the matter.


Do you know what Xi is fighting for as he fights this trade war?


That is a rhetorical question. We all know. It is just that some of you libs are unable to be honest about it.

 

[Correll]

What is Trump's goal, and why does Xi feel a need to fight him?


Now wait, don't bother answering. (i know you won't) but how do you feel when you read that question?

I would like to think that Trump has the same goal, but I am not really sure about that. I think Trump cares more about a political win than the country.

I was not asking you. We have established that you are afraid to discuss the issue. I was talking to the other guy about the same thing.


He probably won't answer either, but don't bury the thread in filler and non-answers if he does, at any level.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What is Trump's goal, and why does Xi feel a need to fight him?


Now wait, don't bother answering. (i know you won't) but how do you feel when you read that question?

I would like to think that Trump has the same goal, but I am not really sure about that. I think Trump cares more about a political win than the country.

I was not asking you. We have established that you are afraid to discuss the issue. I was talking to the other guy about the same thing.


He probably won't answer either, but don't bury the thread in filler and non-answers if he does, at any level.

You have been given the answer and you refuse to accept it.

Why are you so dishonest?

 

[Correll]

What is Trump's goal, and why does Xi feel a need to fight him?


Now wait, don't bother answering. (i know you won't) but how do you feel when you read that question?

I would like to think that Trump has the same goal, but I am not really sure about that. I think Trump cares more about a political win than the country.

I was not asking you. We have established that you are afraid to discuss the issue. I was talking to the other guy about the same thing.


He probably won't answer either, but don't bury the thread in filler and non-answers if he does, at any level.

You have been given the answer and you refuse to accept it.

Why are you so dishonest?

Dude. I'm not talking to you. We reached the end, as far as you were wiling to go. Unless you are ready to move on, don't derail the thread.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What is Trump's goal, and why does Xi feel a need to fight him?


Now wait, don't bother answering. (i know you won't) but how do you feel when you read that question?

I would like to think that Trump has the same goal, but I am not really sure about that. I think Trump cares more about a political win than the country.

I was not asking you. We have established that you are afraid to discuss the issue. I was talking to the other guy about the same thing.


He probably won't answer either, but don't bury the thread in filler and non-answers if he does, at any level.

You have been given the answer and you refuse to accept it.

Why are you so dishonest?

Dude. I'm not talking to you. We reached the end, as far as you were wiling to go. Unless you are ready to move on, don't derail the thread.

You are the one that cannot move on, you were given an answer but keep pretending you did not so that you do not have to move forward.

You are so transparent

 

[BluesLegend]

So all the American workers who lost their jobs and all the American businesses destroyed by China's unfair trade practices, THEFT, I guess it sucks to be them? If China were taking over something important to Dem's like education you people would be screaming bloody murder.

Considering we have a million more open positions than people to fill them, it seems that these people have found new jobs or are too lazy to get a job.

Shut up you ignorant moron. When China screws us over and decimates an entire community and nobody can sell their home and they get wiped out financially and can't move to find a new job its stupid shits like you who say stuff like this. Rot in hell you and the rest of Dem's like you.

 

[Correll]

What is Trump's goal, and why does Xi feel a need to fight him?


Now wait, don't bother answering. (i know you won't) but how do you feel when you read that question?

I would like to think that Trump has the same goal, but I am not really sure about that. I think Trump cares more about a political win than the country.

I was not asking you. We have established that you are afraid to discuss the issue. I was talking to the other guy about the same thing.


He probably won't answer either, but don't bury the thread in filler and non-answers if he does, at any level.

You have been given the answer and you refuse to accept it.

Why are you so dishonest?

Dude. I'm not talking to you. We reached the end, as far as you were wiling to go. Unless you are ready to move on, don't derail the thread.

You are the one that cannot move on, you were given an answer but keep pretending you did not so that you do not have to move forward.

You are so transparent

I remember a long time ago, in a office job I had, I ended up fighting over who got the big copier.


The women who wanted it, made a point that the little one, was newer and really a better copier.


So, I said to them, if it is so good, why don't you want it.


They could not give me an answer to that.


YOu are in the same boat.


Trump wants something. Xi wants it too. YOu pretend that Trump is wrong for wanting it.


But for some reason, Xi is ok for wanting it too.


Different rules for different people, and you cant' even admit what they both want.


Your thinking is deeply irrational.


At best.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I would like to think that Trump has the same goal, but I am not really sure about that. I think Trump cares more about a political win than the country.

I was not asking you. We have established that you are afraid to discuss the issue. I was talking to the other guy about the same thing.


He probably won't answer either, but don't bury the thread in filler and non-answers if he does, at any level.

You have been given the answer and you refuse to accept it.

Why are you so dishonest?

Dude. I'm not talking to you. We reached the end, as far as you were wiling to go. Unless you are ready to move on, don't derail the thread.

You are the one that cannot move on, you were given an answer but keep pretending you did not so that you do not have to move forward.

You are so transparent

I remember a long time ago, in a office job I had, I ended up fighting over who got the big copier.


The women who wanted it, made a point that the little one, was newer and really a better copier.


So, I said to them, if it is so good, why don't you want it.


They could not give me an answer to that.


YOu are in the same boat.


Trump wants something. Xi wants it too. YOu pretend that Trump is wrong for wanting it.


But for some reason, Xi is ok for wanting it too.


Different rules for different people, and you cant' even admit what they both want.


Your thinking is deeply irrational.


At best.

I have never said or even implied Trump was wrong for what he wants, that is just one more lie in a long list from you.

My issue with Trump is in the execution, not the desire.

Let’s say you and I both want the same brand new shiny car.

My plan is to put in some OT and cut some expenses to be able to but it.

Your plan is to buy a lotto ticket and hope to win the lotto.

Now it is possible your plan might work, but it is doubtful.

Same desire, different execution.

 

[bullwinkle]

If the Trade War is unnecessary, then why are the Chinese fighting one,and not just giving US what we want?

You forget, the Chinese are HITTING BACK! We started the tariff wars. Did Xi really have a choice? Trump's intent was to punish the Chinese for their theft of our intellectual property and instead of negotiating he chose to do what he always has done..intimidate. If Xi doesn't react in kind he loses face.

Meantime, our fathers gave our industry to China back in the 70s. We are reaping now!