Trump’s Syrian Maneuver Works – President Erdogan Asks for Negotiations With Kurds in Syria

[B. Kidd]

Several NATO members are rightly concerned about the ISIS prisoners. I'm sure they were all surprise and alarmed by Trumpybears sudden gut decision.

One of the goal of the Trumpybear is to weaken the NATO alliance.

Putin smiles.

Sorry.
Edrogan and his invasion take the full responsibility for that.
The EU better prepare for 4+ million new refugees.
And that makes ME smile as the socialist Eurotrash deserve nothing less!

 

[Skylar]

Why are you using a blog from a dude named "Sundance' as your primary source?

Better than NYT, CNN and MSNBC.

I don't think 'primary source' means what you think it means.

Ditto......

So who, other than 'Sundance' and his blog says that "Erdogan is now urgently asking for the U.S. to mediate peace negotiations with Kurdish forces"?

I dunno.
I was just butting in making the point that the corrupt MSM is no longer a primary news source.

The media isn't a primary source. They report what other people have said. When the NYT reported on the whistleblower, they didn't cite the NYT. They cited the Whistleblower.

In this case, Sundance.....is citing himself. Literally just making up a story about how "Erdogan is now urgently asking for the U.S. to mediate peace negotiations with Kurdish forces"....based on nothing. Sundance cited Sundance. If you follow his links, the lead to OTHER Sundance blogs.

Yet look at the circle jerk of this thread, with desperate conservatives ready to gobble down whatever some dude says in his blog.......backed by nothing.....if it says what they want to believe.

 

[Olde Europe]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

Trumpletons, are all giddy about the former, having suddenly turned isolationist for no reason whatsoever, and not a word about the isolationists entering another theater, U.S. boots on sacred soil, that had already helped bring about the worst foreign attack since the Britons burned down the White House.

One might even hit them over the head with that contradiction - all you'd get back would be empty stares.

 

[B. Kidd]

If we can save one American soldier from losing their life or limbs in another senseless middle eastern war, it is worthwhile. Trump knows this. Yet the bloodlust of the neocons knows no bounds.

Then why is Trump sending 3000 troops to Saudi Arabia?

I mean other than 'Saudi Arabia pays cash'.

To bolster their air defenses.
And, like you stated, they pay their bills, unlike NATO countries, except Poland.
Cash is still King!

 

[Skylar]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

 

[Wry Catcher]

President Trump has played this out perfectly. By isolating Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and effectively leaving him naked to an alliance of his enemies, Erdogan is now urgently asking for the U.S. to mediate peace negotiations with Kurdish forces.

This request happens immediately after President Trump signed an executive order [See Here] triggering the sanction authority of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Erdogan called the White House requesting an urgent phone call with President Trump.

After President Trump talked to Kurdish General Mazloum Kobani Abdi, the commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, President Trump then discussed the options available to President Erdogan. As a result of that conversation, Erdogan requested the U.S. mediate negotiations. Vice-President Mike Pence announces he will be traveling to the region with National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien to lead that effort. WATCH:

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...

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SSSHHH. Don’t tell the NeoCons, the demonRATS the Never Trumper’s and, not a few Trump supporter hand-wringers about this.

It’ll burst the false narrative bubble that the president doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing and is simply acting in knee jerk fashion to keep a campaign promise. Neglecting to note of course that if that was all it was he could have done this 2.5 years ago.

Move this OP to the new forum, Ludicrous, created just for Purge.

 

[Skylar]

President Trump has played this out perfectly. By isolating Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and effectively leaving him naked to an alliance of his enemies, Erdogan is now urgently asking for the U.S. to mediate peace negotiations with Kurdish forces.

This request happens immediately after President Trump signed an executive order [See Here] triggering the sanction authority of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Erdogan called the White House requesting an urgent phone call with President Trump.

After President Trump talked to Kurdish General Mazloum Kobani Abdi, the commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, President Trump then discussed the options available to President Erdogan. As a result of that conversation, Erdogan requested the U.S. mediate negotiations. Vice-President Mike Pence announces he will be traveling to the region with National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien to lead that effort. WATCH:

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...

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SSSHHH. Don’t tell the NeoCons, the demonRATS the Never Trumper’s and, not a few Trump supporter hand-wringers about this.

It’ll burst the false narrative bubble that the president doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing and is simply acting in knee jerk fashion to keep a campaign promise. Neglecting to note of course that if that was all it was he could have done this 2.5 years ago.

Move this OP to the new forum, Ludicrous, created just for Purge.

How about a forum called 'But Sundance said...."

 

[lantern2814]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

Trumpletons, are all giddy about the former, having suddenly turned isolationist for no reason whatsoever, and not a word about the isolationists entering another theater, U.S. boots on sacred soil, that had already helped bring about the worst foreign attack since the Britons burned down the White House.

One might even hit them over the head with that contradiction - all you'd get back would be empty stares.

No way to watch you drool as you get slapped with this. For a decade you libtards have screamed to get out of the Middle East, we don’t belong there. Now Trump does, gets Erdogan to negotiate, and you cry anyways. Seems you’re the one with the empty stare.

 

[BlindBoo]

Why are Dems and snowflakes so against the President finding ways to successfully withdraw troops out of the Nobel Peace Prize Winner's illegal war?

"I told the audience that the countries of the region needed to do more to help themselves. Contrary to regular complaints about a perceived lack of U.S. commitment to the region, I said, the counter-ISIS campaign demonstrated our enduring leadership—"

A Lasting Defeat: The Campaign to Destroy ISIS

Another Obama legacy ends and a new legacy for Trumpybear begins.

 

[B. Kidd]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

Japan is fine.
Only our allies who don't pay up yet want our military defense in return have doubts.
And well they should. F'in welfare Queen watchers!

Most wars are bankers wars and Trump is putting our banks and therefore, the U.S. on the black(+) side of the ledger eventually.
No way Trump loses in 2020 while at the same time NOT wasting American lives in losing propositions in the ME.
Trump is a genius!!!

 

[airplanemechanic]

This is absolute bullshit.

From a more reliable source:

Turkey's Erdogan defiant in face of sanctions and arms embargo, warning offensive to continue until 'objectives met'

This thread should be locked immediately.

 

[BlindBoo]

Several NATO members are rightly concerned about the ISIS prisoners. I'm sure they were all surprise and alarmed by Trumpybears sudden gut decision.

One of the goal of the Trumpybear is to weaken the NATO alliance.

Putin smiles.

Sorry.
Edrogan and his invasion take the full responsibility for that.
The EU better prepare for 4+ million new refugees.
And that makes ME smile as the socialist Eurotrash deserve nothing less!

Trump truly gave our military the order to stand down and not support the coalition forces that helped destroy ISIS. Without that assurance Egodan would never have invaded.

 

[Skylar]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

Japan is fine.
Only our allies who don't pay up yet want our military defense in return have doubts.
And well they should. F'in welfare Queen watchers!

Are you sure? Do the Japanese 'pay in Cash'? Did they help us in WW2?

The Kurds fought and died fighting ISIS for us. And we completely threw them under the bus, pushing them to Syria and the Russians.

The US has demonstrated, yet again, that we're an unreliable ally. Confidence in US leadership has rightly plummeted.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

Japan is fine.
Only our allies who don't pay up yet want our military defense in return have doubts.
And well they should. F'in welfare Queen watchers!

Are you sure? Do the Japanese 'pay in Cash'? Did they help us in WW2?

The Kurds fought and died fighting ISIS for us. And we completely threw them under the bus, pushing them to Syria and the Russians.

The US has demonstrated, yet again, that we're an unreliable ally. Confidence in US leadership has rightly plummeted.

Only 50 troops were moved, why can't NATO come up with that many to replace them to keep peace in the region? Why is it ALWAYS the fucking USA that has to shed its blood to keep peace? Where are OUR fucking allies?

 

[B. Kidd]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

Japan is fine.
Only our allies who don't pay up yet want our military defense in return have doubts.
And well they should. F'in welfare Queen watchers!

Are you sure? Do the Japanese 'pay in Cash'? Did they help us in WW2?

The Kurds fought and died fighting ISIS for us. And we completely threw them under the bus, pushing them to Syria and the Russians.

The US has demonstrated, yet again, that we're an unreliable ally. Confidence in US leadership has rightly plummeted.

Only plummeted with those that owe us and don't pay their bills on time.
They'll come around. Takers really have no choice but to!

 

[Skylar]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

Japan is fine.
Only our allies who don't pay up yet want our military defense in return have doubts.
And well they should. F'in welfare Queen watchers!

Are you sure? Do the Japanese 'pay in Cash'? Did they help us in WW2?

The Kurds fought and died fighting ISIS for us. And we completely threw them under the bus, pushing them to Syria and the Russians.

The US has demonstrated, yet again, that we're an unreliable ally. Confidence in US leadership has rightly plummeted.

Only plummeted with those that owe us and don't pay their bills on time.
They'll come around. Takers really have no choice but to!

Confidence in US leadership plummeted everywhere.....but Russia and Israel.

Neither of which pay any bills to us. With the US paying Israel about 4 billion a year.

 

[easyt65]

Another Obama legacy ends and a new legacy for Trumpybear begins.

Bwuhahahaha....

Barry armed, financed, supplied, trained, protected, and defended ISIS.

HE was the one who authored the Rules of Engagement that protected ISIS-run oil production facilities - that financed half of their terrorist attacks, like the one on Paris - from being struck by coalition forces.

After ISIS' attack on Paris - the largest since WWII - after Barry bragged to the world how he had them contained in a small territory in the Middle East, Barry refused to allow US planes to participate in retaliatory strikes on the ISIS oil facilities.

Instead, he committed what amounted to treason while endangering coalition lives by ordering US aircraft to drop leaflets warning ISIS the attack was coming!

WTF.!

Barry LOVED terrorists!

He helped put recognized terrorists in possession of government leadership in allied Egypt...

He 'pimped out' the US military to Al Qaeda - the terrorists who slaughtered 3,000 Americans in 1 day - to help them murder the leader of a sovereign nation who was helping coalition forces fight terrorists in Northern Africa and helped Am Qaeda take over Libya for their own...

He negotiated his own illegal treaty with Iran - protecting Hezbollah drug ops into the US fearing if he prevented it the Iranians would walk away from his 'legacy' deal...and I. Turn helped start a nuclear arms race in the Middle East...

Damn, Obama really sounds like a great President once you ignore / wipe away the facts and re-write your own history!

 

[BlindBoo]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

Japan is fine.
Only our allies who don't pay up yet want our military defense in return have doubts.
And well they should. F'in welfare Queen watchers!

Are you sure? Do the Japanese 'pay in Cash'? Did they help us in WW2?

The Kurds fought and died fighting ISIS for us. And we completely threw them under the bus, pushing them to Syria and the Russians.

The US has demonstrated, yet again, that we're an unreliable ally. Confidence in US leadership has rightly plummeted.

Only 50 troops were moved, why can't NATO come up with that many to replace them to keep peace in the region? Why is it ALWAYS the fucking USA that has to shed its blood to keep peace? Where are OUR fucking allies?

I don't think the number of troops were the deterrent.

 

[B. Kidd]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

Japan is fine.
Only our allies who don't pay up yet want our military defense in return have doubts.
And well they should. F'in welfare Queen watchers!

Are you sure? Do the Japanese 'pay in Cash'? Did they help us in WW2?

The Kurds fought and died fighting ISIS for us. And we completely threw them under the bus, pushing them to Syria and the Russians.

The US has demonstrated, yet again, that we're an unreliable ally. Confidence in US leadership has rightly plummeted.

Only 50 troops were moved, why can't NATO come up with that many to replace them to keep peace in the region? Why is it ALWAYS the fucking USA that has to shed its blood to keep peace? Where are OUR fucking allies?

Too busy paying welfare benefits to the Muzzies that they've already absorbed with open arms for the last 40 years.
European-style socialism really works.....doesn't it?

 

[Meathead]

Remember when leaving Iraq, on the orders of a democratically elected (under U.S. tutelage) Iraqi government, was the biggest foreign policy blunder in a century? Remember when trying a "reset" with Russia was akin to treason?

Those were the days. Now Trump relinquishes all leverage, and even a seat at the table, when the future of Syria (and much of the region) is being decided, and the ME is handed to Iran, Turkey, and Russia on a silver platter. All the while the U.S. moves in, again, serving as the Saudis' mercenaries, defending their vulnerable oil infrastructure, with billions of dollars in military hardware.

And betrays a long time US ally in the process. Eroding trust in the US even further.

Japan should be very, very concerned with Trump's rambling 'logic' of why he betrayed the US allied Kurds: They didn't fight along side us WW2.

No wonder confidence in US leadership has absolutely plummeted under Trump.

Japan is fine.
Only our allies who don't pay up yet want our military defense in return have doubts.
And well they should. F'in welfare Queen watchers!

Are you sure? Do the Japanese 'pay in Cash'? Did they help us in WW2?

The Kurds fought and died fighting ISIS for us. And we completely threw them under the bus, pushing them to Syria and the Russians.

The US has demonstrated, yet again, that we're an unreliable ally. Confidence in US leadership has rightly plummeted.

You're an clueless idiot. The Kurds did not fight or die for us. They fought and died still are fighting and dying for their own independent state as they have done for decades. You understand nothing of the region and never became a "Kurdophile" until now. This isn't because you give a rat's ass about the Kurds, you're simply trying to retaliate for the butthurt Trump has caused you.