Trump's markets returning double that of previous presidents

The Purge

Platinum Member
Aug 16, 2018
17,881
7,856
400
S&P 500 has surged 50%, while average is only 23%

Got money in a mutual fund? Have a bit of a stock portfolio? Those shares your aunt left you? Even a retirement or pension plan?

You gotta like President Donald Trump.

A report from CNBC explains that the stock markets under Trump stack up "well" against the majority of his predecessors.

"The S&P 500 has returned more than 50% since Trump was elected, more than double the 23% average market return of presidents three years into their term, according to data from Bespoke Investment Group dating to 1928," the report said.

TRENDING: Tennessee bill would finally protect girls sports teams from boys identifying as female

And, further, "The bellwether index gained more than 28% this year, well above the average 12.8% return of year three for past U.S. presidents."

The report said, "Despite the volatility from the U.S.-China trade war, 2019 has been a year of all-time highs for the major stock averages. The S&P 500 crossed 3,200 for the first time ever last week, hitting its seventh round-number milestone of 2019. While business investment slumped due to uncertainty surrounding the world's two largest economies, public market investors remained confident enough to put money into stocks."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...

-------------


Click The Pic
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.
His tax cut have generated thousands of new start up businesses...its now more affordable to start your own business....his banking regulation reform has opened up new innovation...his regulation cuts have increased profits and reinvestment creating thousands of tax paying workers with new jobs....how could a market not rise with all of that great news?....stop picking through your ice cream looking for a hair that isn't there....it will melt before you can enjoy it....
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Shit, large corps have a neg tax rate, and they don't pay anything. Tell me one corp that actually paid the tax rate? Just one.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.
Yeah, that day of reckoning should have been in 2008

Share buy backs...really?!

Those mother fuckers took tax dollars not even EARNED yet
and bought all the toxic assets they should have had to eat

But of course, they didn't want to do that because
it was your money they used to buy toxic assets and make bad loans
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.
His tax cut have generated thousands of new start up businesses...its now more affordable to start your own business....his banking regulation reform has opened up new innovation...his regulation cuts have increased profits and reinvestment creating thousands of tax paying workers with new jobs....how could a market not rise with all of that great news?....stop picking through your ice cream looking for a hair that isn't there....it will melt before you can enjoy it....

There are several metrics which tell us this is the most expensive, over-valued stock market in history. You are more interested in protecting your political interest than your money. But I’m guessing you’ll whine like a little bitch when the market inevitably recalibrates and your stock holdings lose 25-50% of value.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Shit, large corps have a neg tax rate, and they don't pay anything. Tell me one corp that actually paid the tax rate? Just one.

Man, I’ll tell ya, stupid crosses the political boundaries without any hesitation at all. Negative tax rate, really? No corporations pay any taxes?
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Shit, large corps have a neg tax rate, and they don't pay anything. Tell me one corp that actually paid the tax rate? Just one.

Corporations have negative tax rates.....they don’t pay anything.....?

Just how stupid are you?

Follow this link and educate your ignorant snatch.
Berkshire Hathaway - $9.2 billion
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high, more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs, and companies were not hurting for growth capital anyway. They had cash to grow, but they were not compelled to grow because the economy didn’t justify growth.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.
His tax cut have generated thousands of new start up businesses...its now more affordable to start your own business....his banking regulation reform has opened up new innovation...his regulation cuts have increased profits and reinvestment creating thousands of tax paying workers with new jobs....how could a market not rise with all of that great news?....stop picking through your ice cream looking for a hair that isn't there....it will melt before you can enjoy it....

There are several metrics which tell us this is the most expensive, over-valued stock market in history. You are more interested in protecting your political interest than your money. But I’m guessing you’ll whine like a little bitch when the market inevitably recalibrates and your stock holdings lose 25-50% of value.
I've never pulled more value out of my investments than I am today....just this morning we are getting reports on the national debt. shrinking for the first time since 2002....I will stick with Trumponomics....but thanks for your advise....however wrong headed it is....
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Shit, large corps have a neg tax rate, and they don't pay anything. Tell me one corp that actually paid the tax rate? Just one.

Shit, large corps have a neg tax rate, and they don't pay anything.

How do they do that?
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high, more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs, and companies were not hurting for growth capital anyway. They had cash to grow, but they were not compelled to grow because the economy didn’t justify growth.

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high

Dollar-wise, how much did the corporate rate cut increase the national debt?

more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs

Buying back stock puts money in the stockholder's hands. Right?
They pay capital gains tax. They spend, re-invest or save their gains.
All those actions create jobs and give the government tax revenue.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.
His tax cut have generated thousands of new start up businesses...its now more affordable to start your own business....his banking regulation reform has opened up new innovation...his regulation cuts have increased profits and reinvestment creating thousands of tax paying workers with new jobs....how could a market not rise with all of that great news?....stop picking through your ice cream looking for a hair that isn't there....it will melt before you can enjoy it....

There are several metrics which tell us this is the most expensive, over-valued stock market in history. You are more interested in protecting your political interest than your money. But I’m guessing you’ll whine like a little bitch when the market inevitably recalibrates and your stock holdings lose 25-50% of value.
I've never pulled more value out of my investments than I am today....just this morning we are getting reports on the national debt. shrinking for the first time since 2002....I will stick with Trumponomics....but thanks for your advise....however wrong headed it is....

Well if you mean you are selling into this froth, good for you, because the valuations make no sense, so you should take the profits and wait for another buying opportunity.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high, more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs, and companies were not hurting for growth capital anyway. They had cash to grow, but they were not compelled to grow because the economy didn’t justify growth.

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high

Dollar-wise, how much did the corporate rate cut increase the national debt?

more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs

Buying back stock puts money in the stockholder's hands. Right?
They pay capital gains tax. They spend, re-invest or save their gains.
All those actions create jobs and give the government tax revenue.

Tax cuts were responsible for 82% of the additional national debt of $113 billion.
Trump's Additional Budget Deficit Was Largely Due To The Corporate Tax Cut

The U.S. Treasury Department publishes a 36 page monthly statement that has all sorts of information about where the Federal government receives its “income” and how it is spent. In the most recent report ending in September 2018 for the full fiscal year 2018 it shows that the federal budget deficit increased from $666 billion in fiscal 2017 to $779 billion in fiscal 2018, an increase of $113 billion or 17%. In the same report corporate tax receipts dropped from $297 billion in fiscal 2017 to $205 billion in fiscal 2018, a decrease of $92 billion or 31%. The $92 billion would account for 82% of the increase in the deficit.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets. They actually hurt the shareholder long term. If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today. How does that help a Macy’s shareholder. I’m sure they would have rather had that buyback money in their pocket.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high, more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs, and companies were not hurting for growth capital anyway. They had cash to grow, but they were not compelled to grow because the economy didn’t justify growth.

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high

Dollar-wise, how much did the corporate rate cut increase the national debt?

more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs

Buying back stock puts money in the stockholder's hands. Right?
They pay capital gains tax. They spend, re-invest or save their gains.
All those actions create jobs and give the government tax revenue.

Tax cuts were responsible for 82% of the additional national debt of $113 billion.
Trump's Additional Budget Deficit Was Largely Due To The Corporate Tax Cut

The U.S. Treasury Department publishes a 36 page monthly statement that has all sorts of information about where the Federal government receives its “income” and how it is spent. In the most recent report ending in September 2018 for the full fiscal year 2018 it shows that the federal budget deficit increased from $666 billion in fiscal 2017 to $779 billion in fiscal 2018, an increase of $113 billion or 17%. In the same report corporate tax receipts dropped from $297 billion in fiscal 2017 to $205 billion in fiscal 2018, a decrease of $92 billion or 31%. The $92 billion would account for 82% of the increase in the deficit.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets. They actually hurt the shareholder long term. If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today. How does that help a Macy’s shareholder. I’m sure they would have rather had that buyback money in their pocket.

Thanks for the link.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets.

Who gets the money in a buyback?

If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own.

And the amount that I own.

Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today.

Sometimes buybacks are stupid. Sometimes they're great.
Just like any stock purchase.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction which was largely spent on share buybacks. The big culprit however is the federal reserve for their horrible monetary policy.

There will be a day of reckoning. Let’s we what you have to say about Trump then.

Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high, more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs, and companies were not hurting for growth capital anyway. They had cash to grow, but they were not compelled to grow because the economy didn’t justify growth.

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high

Dollar-wise, how much did the corporate rate cut increase the national debt?

more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs

Buying back stock puts money in the stockholder's hands. Right?
They pay capital gains tax. They spend, re-invest or save their gains.
All those actions create jobs and give the government tax revenue.

Tax cuts were responsible for 82% of the additional national debt of $113 billion.
Trump's Additional Budget Deficit Was Largely Due To The Corporate Tax Cut

The U.S. Treasury Department publishes a 36 page monthly statement that has all sorts of information about where the Federal government receives its “income” and how it is spent. In the most recent report ending in September 2018 for the full fiscal year 2018 it shows that the federal budget deficit increased from $666 billion in fiscal 2017 to $779 billion in fiscal 2018, an increase of $113 billion or 17%. In the same report corporate tax receipts dropped from $297 billion in fiscal 2017 to $205 billion in fiscal 2018, a decrease of $92 billion or 31%. The $92 billion would account for 82% of the increase in the deficit.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets. They actually hurt the shareholder long term. If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today. How does that help a Macy’s shareholder. I’m sure they would have rather had that buyback money in their pocket.

Thanks for the link.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets.

Who gets the money in a buyback?

If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own.

And the amount that I own.

Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today.

Sometimes buybacks are stupid. Sometimes they're great.
Just like any stock purchase.

Who gets the money? The stock holders who sell their shares.

The amount you own doesn’t change.

Stock buybacks are almost if not always bad for the loyal shareholders.
 
Trump is partially to blame for the inflated stock valuations because of his ill advised corporate tax reduction

We had the highest rate in the 1st world.
Why was reducing it to a competitive level.....ill-advised?

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high, more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs, and companies were not hurting for growth capital anyway. They had cash to grow, but they were not compelled to grow because the economy didn’t justify growth.

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high

Dollar-wise, how much did the corporate rate cut increase the national debt?

more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs

Buying back stock puts money in the stockholder's hands. Right?
They pay capital gains tax. They spend, re-invest or save their gains.
All those actions create jobs and give the government tax revenue.

Tax cuts were responsible for 82% of the additional national debt of $113 billion.
Trump's Additional Budget Deficit Was Largely Due To The Corporate Tax Cut

The U.S. Treasury Department publishes a 36 page monthly statement that has all sorts of information about where the Federal government receives its “income” and how it is spent. In the most recent report ending in September 2018 for the full fiscal year 2018 it shows that the federal budget deficit increased from $666 billion in fiscal 2017 to $779 billion in fiscal 2018, an increase of $113 billion or 17%. In the same report corporate tax receipts dropped from $297 billion in fiscal 2017 to $205 billion in fiscal 2018, a decrease of $92 billion or 31%. The $92 billion would account for 82% of the increase in the deficit.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets. They actually hurt the shareholder long term. If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today. How does that help a Macy’s shareholder. I’m sure they would have rather had that buyback money in their pocket.

Thanks for the link.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets.

Who gets the money in a buyback?

If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own.

And the amount that I own.

Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today.

Sometimes buybacks are stupid. Sometimes they're great.
Just like any stock purchase.

Who gets the money? The stock holders who sell their shares.

The amount you own doesn’t change.

Stock buybacks are almost if not always bad for the loyal shareholders.

Who gets the money? The stock holders who sell their shares.

That's weird, I heard someone say, "Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets"

The amount you own doesn’t change.

That's weird, I heard someone say, " the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. "

Stock buybacks are almost if not always bad for the loyal shareholders.

Depends. Does the company hoard the money and then use it to make a stupid acquisition?
 
Because it increased the National debt to an all time high, more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs, and companies were not hurting for growth capital anyway. They had cash to grow, but they were not compelled to grow because the economy didn’t justify growth.

Because it increased the National debt to an all time high

Dollar-wise, how much did the corporate rate cut increase the national debt?

more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs

Buying back stock puts money in the stockholder's hands. Right?
They pay capital gains tax. They spend, re-invest or save their gains.
All those actions create jobs and give the government tax revenue.

Tax cuts were responsible for 82% of the additional national debt of $113 billion.
Trump's Additional Budget Deficit Was Largely Due To The Corporate Tax Cut

The U.S. Treasury Department publishes a 36 page monthly statement that has all sorts of information about where the Federal government receives its “income” and how it is spent. In the most recent report ending in September 2018 for the full fiscal year 2018 it shows that the federal budget deficit increased from $666 billion in fiscal 2017 to $779 billion in fiscal 2018, an increase of $113 billion or 17%. In the same report corporate tax receipts dropped from $297 billion in fiscal 2017 to $205 billion in fiscal 2018, a decrease of $92 billion or 31%. The $92 billion would account for 82% of the increase in the deficit.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets. They actually hurt the shareholder long term. If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today. How does that help a Macy’s shareholder. I’m sure they would have rather had that buyback money in their pocket.

Thanks for the link.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets.

Who gets the money in a buyback?

If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own.

And the amount that I own.

Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today.

Sometimes buybacks are stupid. Sometimes they're great.
Just like any stock purchase.

Who gets the money? The stock holders who sell their shares.

The amount you own doesn’t change.

Stock buybacks are almost if not always bad for the loyal shareholders.

Who gets the money? The stock holders who sell their shares.

That's weird, I heard someone say, "Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets"

The amount you own doesn’t change.

That's weird, I heard someone say, " the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. "

Stock buybacks are almost if not always bad for the loyal shareholders.

Depends. Does the company hoard the money and then use it to make a stupid acquisition?

Listen, if you want to act like a complete jerk, that’s fine. You don’t have to wait for a stock buyback to sell your shares. You can sell them whenever the fuck you want, and you will never known who bought your shares. I was assuming you were talking about loyal shareholders, those people who don’t sell when the company does a buy back. Those people would be better off with a dividend payment over the company using the excess money to buyback shares. Are you really this dense or just trying to be a douche?

Don’t answer that. After reading the rest of your retorts, you really haven’t a clue about this. See ya.
 
Because it increased the National debt to an all time high

Dollar-wise, how much did the corporate rate cut increase the national debt?

more of the tax savings were spent buying back stock than creating jobs

Buying back stock puts money in the stockholder's hands. Right?
They pay capital gains tax. They spend, re-invest or save their gains.
All those actions create jobs and give the government tax revenue.

Tax cuts were responsible for 82% of the additional national debt of $113 billion.
Trump's Additional Budget Deficit Was Largely Due To The Corporate Tax Cut

The U.S. Treasury Department publishes a 36 page monthly statement that has all sorts of information about where the Federal government receives its “income” and how it is spent. In the most recent report ending in September 2018 for the full fiscal year 2018 it shows that the federal budget deficit increased from $666 billion in fiscal 2017 to $779 billion in fiscal 2018, an increase of $113 billion or 17%. In the same report corporate tax receipts dropped from $297 billion in fiscal 2017 to $205 billion in fiscal 2018, a decrease of $92 billion or 31%. The $92 billion would account for 82% of the increase in the deficit.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets. They actually hurt the shareholder long term. If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today. How does that help a Macy’s shareholder. I’m sure they would have rather had that buyback money in their pocket.

Thanks for the link.

Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets.

Who gets the money in a buyback?

If you hold stock in XYZ, and the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own.

And the amount that I own.

Ask the shareholders of Macy’s how those buybacks have worked for them. Macy’s has spent more cash buying back shares than the company is worth today.

Sometimes buybacks are stupid. Sometimes they're great.
Just like any stock purchase.

Who gets the money? The stock holders who sell their shares.

The amount you own doesn’t change.

Stock buybacks are almost if not always bad for the loyal shareholders.

Who gets the money? The stock holders who sell their shares.

That's weird, I heard someone say, "Stock buy backs do not put money in shareholders pockets"

The amount you own doesn’t change.

That's weird, I heard someone say, " the board decides to reduce the float by buying back shares, they are telling you rather than grow the company, or payout a dividend, they are going to increase the amount of the company they own. "

Stock buybacks are almost if not always bad for the loyal shareholders.

Depends. Does the company hoard the money and then use it to make a stupid acquisition?

Listen, if you want to act like a complete jerk, that’s fine. You don’t have to wait for a stock buyback to sell your shares. You can sell them whenever the fuck you want, and you will never known who bought your shares. I was assuming you were talking about loyal shareholders, those people who don’t sell when the company does a buy back. Those people would be better off with a dividend payment over the company using the excess money to buyback shares. Are you really this dense or just trying to be a douche?

Don’t answer that. After reading the rest of your retorts, you really haven’t a clue about this. See ya.

Listen, if you want to act like a complete jerk, that’s fine

If my pointing out your confusion makes you too sad.....go away.

I was assuming you were talking about loyal shareholders, those people who don’t sell when the company does a buy back.

The shareholders who own a larger piece of the company after each buyback?

Those people would be better off with a dividend payment over the company using the excess money to buyback shares.

Depends. If the tax rate on their dividend hike is higher than their capital gains tax rate.....not so much.
The buybacks also mean more earnings per remaining share to support current and future dividend payments.
 

Forum List

Back
Top